welp there goes my religion!

Now its BCE Before Common Era
AD is now CE Common Era

Well i think if ya beleave in something and its right then ur bloddy,well lucky other than be who will go to hell cause i have dissed god to the max!:fuzwink:

Picturey, what do you mean by that?
Joshy, never heard that before.
Mac, it's 30 years exactly.
Oddfan, I don't know what you mean by that. personally, if God told me to go and give all my money to you guys I would do it.
Spiff_kid, I don't know how seriousely you mean that beut I tell ya this, Jesus was hangin on the cross in sheer pain and forgave all the sins of a dangerous murderer who hung beside him without a second thought.

That murderer should have gone to Hell. It looks like my theory is correct, you can maim, rape and kill thousands of women, men and children but so long as you love God you will go straight to Heaven. Naughty, naughty God...

Acctually, you can't go about saying you love God and then killing and such. That's like saying you'll play football and never EVER turning up to any practices or even game, yet still claiming to be in the football team.

What I meant was, Jesus forgave the guy of all his sins because he willfully was sorry and knew that if he wasn't about to die he would start his life from scratch, living a good life. Jesus forgave him of all his sins. That's how much he loves us. You could go out now and kill every living thing in America, Australia and Africa, and as long as you truly were sorry, and you truly wanted to conform, God would forgive you and take your sins.
The murderer looked at Jesus hanging next to him, and not only knew that he was innocent of any crimes, he recognised him as someone special, he recognised that this guy, hanging next to him, dying the death of a terrible criminal, as the son of God, the person he knew could help him. So Jesus did help him.
If you said to God now, I'm sorry that I sin, please forgive me, unless you were truly sorry for all the evil things you've done, you might as well try asking the wall. Ask God and want to believe, and you will.

i haf no idea!

Isn't that funny? The only one here who has definate proof of god's existence, and he's busy.
Please, could you not just give us a couple of examples?

No that is not correct, when you believe in God and follow his footstep, you would not main, rape and kill people. If you actually do those stuff, you arent a true believer...

I myself is fighting ova if there is a God or not, i stand at neutral view though. If i think there is a God, i remember all those theory and stuff. But if i think there is no God, i remind myself, there Was a person called Jesus that actually was resurrected. I also remind myself of all those miracles that happened.

Sure there was a person called Jesus, but I really doubt the resurrection story. It could be a classic example of Chinese Whispers.

Re: Why heaven and hell can’t exist
 

I read to here and then stoped, it's too long to analise it all.

As for "God is everywhere, therfore God creates evil" I don't see that link.

I don't beleive in the Christian belief of God, but I believe there must have been something that started Chaos, and from that anything, and everything, can and will happen.

Just cause God can see everything doesn't mean he causes everything.
Think of Earth as a test. Your actions are being watched by a non-interfering moderator. If you fail the test, you got to pergetory for a while. If you end up going too far, you go to hell.

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Sorry, just saw this:
I belive it was more like "Jesus/God will forgive those who repent their sins"... or something like that.

The idea was more If you are truely sorry, you will be forgiven. That meansyou can't just run around doing anything and expect to get in, you need to feel sorry about murdering/rapeing/etc.
I know when you're dieing, you'd probably be scared $hitless and end up begging for mercy, but you'd need to ask yourself "Do I deserve it?"

I don't know why I'm backing up this religion, but I may as well start a two-sided debate!

has anyone read anything I've said? Cause most people seem to be repeating me, Adder I've already said all of that.

:fuzmad: u r sooooo lucky I already have like 2 warnings. oh and facismile how did the bible become written? How were there 333 people who all saw prophicies of the lord before jesus even walked the land? just thought i'd give ya a couple things to think about if u actually answer those and have proof then I happily give u more to think about.:D

Oddfan, i saw Abe. I met Munch. I spoke to VP Aslik. All this is true. How do you know its not? Where you here? What makes you think that just because they're in a game means they're not real?

Oddfan, i am reading a book right now. Its called 'The KKK's guide to Religion' and its all about exterminating the dirty, white-girl, raping, vermin Blacks and wiping out the AIDS spreading, dress-wearing, lisping Faggots that plague our otherwise decent world. I know its the true guide to Religion cos it says so on the first page, so this means its true. It also says its Gods word. And states Prophecies. Yeh. Its basically the more truthful version of the Bible.

Oh, so this means that i can wipe out all my enemy's, devour millions of babies and rape countless men and women and then convert to Religion, praise the Lord, live the rest of my life abiding by his rule without wanting to do any of my past misdemeanours again and still go to Heaven? Oh, thooper!!

Heaven and Hell were created so that the bad would be punished. It seems as time goes on people are plotting more ways on how they can get to Heaven even though they lead a sinful life. This wasn't how Heaven and Hell were intended. Hell was the deterant. Regardless of if you had God in your Heart or not, if you sinned, you were damned for eternity and a day.

I just think a lot of you need to realize that you all have the same religion. (yes, you can follow 2 religions) most of you follow a creed revolving around stubborn conviction and self indulgent idealization. Idealizing and idolizing are not much different.

ONCE AGAIN people refuse to get past traditional beliefs and their true purpose: to help humanity reach a better understanding of one another. Instead, people turn them around and use religion against each other. "I can't do this, I'll go to hell." "I don't like this religion because it says I will never achieve eternal salvation unless I control my life, or have others control it for me." STOP USING IT AGAINST EACH OTHER! LISTEN! THINK! blind hate is much the same as blind worship. Heaven is sovereignty of the mind.

My name was in your ****ing quote! You only had to look up! You could have copied and pasted it! I would have the decency to spell your name right, you stupid prick.

By people with good imaginations.
I can't prove this right, but you can't prove it wrong.

Hallucinogens?
Hmm... that certainly is a strange number... it being half the... hmm...

I have no proof, but neither do you. You read everything in the bible. You learned the bible was true from: the bible itself.

More examples. Those bored me.

Whew, you guys really like to write loong replies.

I have never believed in god.

That is kinda selfish from god if everybody has to praise and love him, and if you don't, he'll punish !!

Your pretty much right.
The bible was inspired by God, it wasn't written or dictated by Him. I know certain religions take it literaly, but it offers 2 versions of the Adam and Eve story. How can both be right?

The bible might not contain any true facts, other than God created something, and Jesus lived!

I know a devout Cristian who ignores most of the bible, simply because it can't be fully accurate.

As for the "blind hate / blind belief" remark, this is why I don't have a definite religion.
I can't have blind faith! It's a big disadvantage, but I feel I need to see everything for what it is, not for some invisible force that acts on it.
That's why I support Chaos. Everything happens from small changes which spread and cause bigger effects!

facsismile or whatever your name is have u ever looked at a bible it's over a thousand pages. so why would over a dozen people over time write in it just to make an interesting story?

Because it was originally meant just to be some stories with strong morals, like fables...but people took it way too seriously and warped it into a religion. Pretty much like what everybody's done to Lord Of The Rings.

ok since when is lord of the rings a religion.

ODDFAN THE PREACHER
 

Well, I beleive that both places exist except we as mortals have not yet received full spiritual divinity to see it and only our souls know of it and what is looks like. And that knowledge is partly passed on to our mortal carcasses...

You could be a preist Oddfan...you, Abeguy, me, and a few others all beleive inthe teachings of God and Heaven and Hell...

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Oh Lord! Hallelujeh!

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I hope other Christians won't take offense of this...

You are a thick headed, dog raping moron.

I second Mac's answer.

I think your insults do not help and are just to hide the fact you don't know what else to say facismile.

I think your insults do not help and are just to hide the fact you don't know what else to say facismile.
also J.R.R tolkien was a christian and he had alot of time so he made up a new world (middle Earth) and the series the lord of the rings he wrote as a analagy of the bible.

I'd hide in a Nuclear Bunker and Say some Prayers before Facsimile gets back...

I have to agree, Hobo!

This will be my finnal post here as it seems to have changed into a flaming match between Oddfan and (*scrolls down to check spelling*) Facsimile.

Oddfan: Don't reply to insults, report them instead. As for how to spell people's names, if you scroll down on the NEW POST screen you can see it along with their past posts.

Facsimile: Don't be insulted just cause someone misspells your name. If you don't like it, then tell them. But don't say they're "dog raping morons" jsut casue they make a simple mistake!

good advice Adder this is my last post as well I have nothing more to say to you uh.....lemme check......facsimile.

I reckon Christianity is a cult. Some moneymaking losers wrote the bible(no capital!) and found some weak willed people to recruit and to get money from.


Heheh, watch out oddfan, not even god will save you when Facismile comes back!!!




Say hi to the Twisting Nether for me!



-Ghosty:lol: :devil:

Actually, no, you're just dumb...it was written a way long time ago, I doubt they were forming moneymaking strategies back then...