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Cloverfield 09-18-2003 10:02 AM

I am 53% gay ... *looks around and hides cause it's the second highest score on here* I swear, I'm straight. Maybe it's that, erm, yaoi that I seem to always find. LOL

Abe Babe...

Rex Tirano 09-18-2003 01:37 PM

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But aren't you a girl? I was only talking about boys that age. Sorry, I guess I should have stated that.
Yep I'm a girl.....*looks at abe babe weirdly* Strangly enough I know what Yaoi is.....*moves away* :P

P.
Spelling error in last post 'personality' is meant to be 'personally' I canne' be bothered to change....

paramiteabe 09-18-2003 02:19 PM

I am 100% streight and 0% homosexual because I believe being a homosexual can be sinful and un ethical for myself in my own opinion. But what ever is good for you there is nothing wrong with it. You be your own individual self. If you think its right then there is nothing wrong with that. I don't want to sound descrimative here for saying that but in my own opinion I believe its just not right for me in what I believe is good for me.

Thats one thing I do know about myself that I don't need to take a test to find out. But hey thats just me. Incase any of you are woundering I am refering to myself not you.:D

Paramiteabe...:fuzblink:

Jacob 09-18-2003 05:01 PM

I'm attracted to people, not genders. Although guys seem to be more appealing...but the odd girl can turn me, for a whole 2 and a half seconds...

And PA, you're renowned for your ability to sit on the fence and not want to offend anybody and i personally find that a-nnoying as fudge...but your recent post is one of the most overly-attempting-to-be-unoffensive things i have ever heard...and i have lost my point...but yes...it was anal.

Abeguy 09-18-2003 07:06 PM

Guys, i am sorry for blowing my top, i was hot, tired and cranky, if i wasn't, i would've laughed and said it was funny, can you ever forgive me?:fuzblink: i am so sorry

Codek 09-18-2003 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
I'm attracted to people, not genders. Although guys seem to be more appealing...but the odd girl can turn me, for a whole 2 and a half seconds...

And PA, you're renowned for your ability to sit on the fence and not want to offend anybody and i personally find that a-nnoying as fudge...but your recent post is one of the most overly-attempting-to-be-unoffensive things i have ever heard...and i have lost my point...but yes...it was anal.

I second that. I am attracted to people, not genders or sexualities. I am attracted to music not genres or popularity. I am attracted to clothes I like the look of, not trends or fads. I am freinds with the intelligent, not the "cool" or "popular".

If there is a brain in your head and an opinion on your lip I see no reason why you should be singled out for your sexuality, gender or race. Our differences should make us all unique, not angry.

Damn, this weed's good stuff. :D

Mac the Janitor 09-18-2003 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by paramiteabe
I am 100% streight and 0% homosexual because I believe being a homosexual can be sinful and un ethical for myself in my own opinion.
How, in any way, can it be sinful? They're not hurting anyone, and it's what they truly want. They shouldn't be forced to act straight by the ignorance of society. I really doubt God cares if you're gay or not.

oddguy 09-18-2003 09:38 PM

PA is just sayin' that it's sinful to his religion because it is against God's plan. You kids can do what ya want, but you don't have to worry about PA bein' gay anytime soon.

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Disgruntled Intern 09-18-2003 11:54 PM

As a practicing satanist [I follow the teachings of Anton LaVey], it really disturbs me when people deem homosexuality sinful, yet commit many sins daily.

Guess what? Eating even though you're full/or not hungry is a sin. It's called Gluttony.

Hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock in the morning is a sin. It's called Sloth.

Ever wanted a raise at work? Or to win the lottery? Guess what? You're a sinner. It's called Greed.

Someone ever do something to make you mad? Time to repent, sinner! Anger is also a sin.


Have you ever really wanted something? Like a new car, or toy? Maybe a new game, or computer? Well, you were Lusting after it. Prepare for the lake of fire, bitch.



Hanging up an A+ paper, or bragging about winning something is a sin. It's called Pride.



What kind of god punishes you for taking pride in your success?


I could go on, but I am bored. Bottom line is, people sin every single day of their lives. Those who go out of their way to avoid sinning are not truly living.

My point is, if you are against a 'sin' such as homosexuality, you'd better get on your knees and pray, boys and girls. Pray that your tin god is as forgiving as everyone makes him out to be.

Satanism, on the other hand, is about making yourself happy. It is not about avoiding certain 'sins'. It's about self indulgence. Not orgies, nor sacrifices.

If you want to shed your common misconceptions, go to:

www.satanism101.com

Thank you for your time.

GrigtheSlig 09-18-2003 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by paramiteabe
I am 100% streight and 0% homosexual because I believe being a homosexual can be sinful and un ethical for myself in my own opinion. But what ever is good for you there is nothing wrong with it. You be your own individual self. If you think its right then there is nothing wrong with that. I don't want to sound descrimative here for saying that but in my own opinion I believe its just not right for me in what I believe is good for me.

Thats one thing I do know about myself that I don't need to take a test to find out. But hey thats just me. Incase any of you are woundering I am refering to myself not you.:D

Paramiteabe...:fuzblink:

So...I guess you didn't take the test then? :fuzconf:

Codek 09-19-2003 01:14 AM

I think this is gunna go a bit off topic.

PA has a right to find gay's sinful. Just take it with a pinch of salt and move on for goshs sakes.

oddguy 09-19-2003 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
[B]As a practicing satanist [I follow the teachings of Anton LaVey], it really disturbs me when people deem homosexuality sinful, yet commit many sins daily.
Please not another thread on religion! Anyway, do you know all the names for Satan? If you did, you would know he is the father of lies and such, which is a sin. I know Satanists aren't demon worshipers, but they are very misguided in their beliefs. In the scriptures it says that in the last days that many will see darkness as light and vice-versa. I think this is one of those cases. But you have freedom of religion, so I can't do a bloody thing about it!

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Guess what? Eating even though you're full/or not hungry is a sin. It's called Gluttony .
Yup! I know this one. I actualy follow it to the best of my ability. Extra food goes to the poor rather that filling yer belly too full, but we all break that on thanksgiving!:D Anyway, my church takes fast offering and gives out to the poor.

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Hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock in the morning is a sin. It's called Sloth .
Early to bed, early to rise. That's the best way to live life. God does not get angry at those who need rest. Sick? You need sleep. Long night at work? You're providing for your family, so long saturday sleep won't get ya struck by lightning. It's only a sin to sleep when you're fasting or for the wrong reasons....such as being lazy and such.

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Ever wanted a raise at work? Or to win the lottery? Guess what? You're a sinner. It's called Greed .
This is only a sin when you want money for the wrong reasons. My family would like more money for finacial stability. THIS IS NOT A SIN!

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Someone ever do something to make you mad? Time to repent, sinner! Anger is also a sin.
Can't deny that. You're 100% right about this point. The Bible tells you to pray for your enemies and those that despitfully use you. That doesn't mean you have to be best buds with your rival though.


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Have you ever really wanted something? Like a new car, or toy? Maybe a new game, or computer? Well, you were Lusting after it. Prepare for the lake of fire, bitch.
It's not bad to have stuff. It's just bad when you place these things at a level where these are the only things you care about.


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Hanging up an A+ paper, or bragging about winning something is a sin. It's called Pride .
This is only a sin when you put someone down as you pride yourself. It is good to be proud of your success as long as you thank God for the help. He's the one who is a constant guide in our lives. He helps me so much!

THE END. I answered all your Q's! Oh baby!:fuzgrin:


-oddguy :fuzcool:

GrigtheSlig 09-19-2003 02:36 AM

WOW! Disgruntled Intern! I knew you were wierd, but not THAT wierd! Your a crazy person! I'm very frightened! Your scary! :crying: Don't come near me!

This is Disgruntled Intern --------> :rant: or :flames: and he's worshiping... ------> :devil:

Joshy 09-19-2003 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern

Guess what? Eating even though you're full/or not hungry is a sin. It's called Gluttony.

Hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock in the morning is a sin. It's called Sloth.

Ever wanted a raise at work? Or to win the lottery? Guess what? You're a sinner. It's called Greed.

Someone ever do something to make you mad? Time to repent, sinner! Anger is also a sin.


Have you ever really wanted something? Like a new car, or toy? Maybe a new game, or computer? Well, you were Lusting after it. Prepare for the lake of fire, bitch.



Hanging up an A+ paper, or bragging about winning something is a sin. It's called Pride.


Dammit DI, why did you have to post that. Now i bad for everything i do... i better go kill myself to repent :p

But i think Greed is alrite, without Greed our world will never advance.

Facsimile 09-19-2003 07:52 AM

Yay. I find myself only guilty of anger, and lusting. Not that that matters to me. But it's nice to know.

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So...I guess you didn't take the test then?
I bet he did and got a higher mark than Jacob, and has become all touchy about it.

Alcar 09-19-2003 10:22 AM

Wow, I am so evil. I find myself guilty of all those sins DI mentioned. However, the only ones I'm not doing often are Greed and Anger.

I should probably spank myself now, but I think Josh would like revenge.

Alcar...

paramiteabe 09-19-2003 10:50 AM

DI everybody sins we are human its just a matter of how we recognise those sins and aknowledge them to God. I sin everybody sins. We are not perfect. Earthly pleasures to me are secondary in comparison to spiritual richness.

And no I dident bother to take the test.

Alcar 09-19-2003 10:53 AM

I took the test and scored 40%. Not too happy with that, I should have been much higher ;)

As for spiritual satisfaction, I get that through doing what I feel is right.

Alcar...

oddguy 09-19-2003 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Alcar
As for spiritual satisfaction, I get that through doing what I feel is right.
That actually works very well...as long as you have a good consience!:D

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Disgruntled Intern 09-19-2003 04:32 PM

Before the 'coming of christ' "satan" was the god and bringer of light and fertility.

Christianity made him out to be bad as they needed a fear factor to keep people in check.

Anton LaVey said it best:

"Satan is the church's best friend; he's kept them in business for centuries!"

I have my beliefs, you have yours. I do not think yours are wrong, just a bit ignorant.

You are more than welcomed to feel the same about me.

Jacob 09-19-2003 04:50 PM

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WOW! Disgruntled Intern! I knew you were wierd, but not THAT wierd! Your a crazy person! I'm very frightened! Your scary! Don't come near me!
You may think that, but like i have said countless times, DI's religion has him living life to the full and loving it. Not feeling guilty or scared...not wanting forgiveness...but feeling fulfilled.

Your religion seems to have you constantly in fear. Be prideful...beg for forgiveness. Be nasty...beg for mercy. Have a nasty thought...GOOD GOD GET THE SIN CLEANSED FROM YOU IMMEDIATLY!!

Oh, and Oddguy it seemed as if you were making allowances for quite alot of those sins. I.E - "Oh, no, its not a sin if i do this. No, if i do it this way its quite exceptable...yes...not that...people who do it that way are going to burn." im sure if God wanted to create a loophole he would have clearly stated it, as in "This is a sin. But, if you do it this way...its not...so thats ok." but he didn't, did he?

Also, you Christian types are wasting your lives horrificly. Why base your entire life on the THEORY and HOPE and FAITHFULNESS that Heaven exists. Why not live life to the full? You have God in your Hearts so im sure he'll forgive you...so, why be all "No, can't do this...no, no...thats wrong!!" cos its silly. When we die we just go onto a new plane of life...no Heaven...no Hell...just a new existance. So, people like me and DI will be ripping the piss out of you lot in the next life, cos not only have we had one amazing life...but we'll be having a second amazing life too...whilst you lot will be boiling in fury realising you were actually wrong.

By the by, i can't believe we're having another discussion on this again...

Wil 09-19-2003 05:07 PM

Oh, not another thread about this. Sticking to the subject...

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Buncey is 53% gay!

Congratulations, you've scored right in the middle and are a happy and well-adjusted homo guy!
Yay!

Abeguy 09-19-2003 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
As a practicing satanist [I follow the teachings of Anton LaVey], it really disturbs me when people deem homosexuality sinful, yet commit many sins daily.

Guess what? Eating even though you're full/or not hungry is a sin. It's called Gluttony.

Hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock in the morning is a sin. It's called Sloth.

Ever wanted a raise at work? Or to win the lottery? Guess what? You're a sinner. It's called Greed.

Someone ever do something to make you mad? Time to repent, sinner! Anger is also a sin.


Have you ever really wanted something? Like a new car, or toy? Maybe a new game, or computer? Well, you were Lusting after it. Prepare for the lake of fire, bitch.



Hanging up an A+ paper, or bragging about winning something is a sin. It's called Pride.



What kind of god punishes you for taking pride in your success?


I could go on, but I am bored. Bottom line is, people sin every single day of their lives. Those who go out of their way to avoid sinning are not truly living.

My point is, if you are against a 'sin' such as homosexuality, you'd better get on your knees and pray, boys and girls. Pray that your tin god is as forgiving as everyone makes him out to be.

Satanism, on the other hand, is about making yourself happy. It is not about avoiding certain 'sins'. It's about self indulgence. Not orgies, nor sacrifices.

If you want to shed your common misconceptions, go to:

www.satanism101.com

Thank you for your time.




this is not true, because that is counting on the way and why you do it. So, if you are starving to death, would it be a sin to eat?
but if its a contest or just for the reason, that is a sin

And Sloth. if you are trying to get the required amount of rest for your day, is that a sin? but if your trying to skip your daily actions, it is sin

Greed, what if you need money for your family, and what is the chance of you winning the lottery? very slim and if you do you are very happy that you have extra income. but if you spend it on everything for wacky stuff and rub it in peoples faces, that is sin

and for lust, who of you havn't wanted something? the creators of that quote are sinning because they wanted a website right?
and for Dissed intern, he cussed, that to is a sin and DI has wanted something to like the OW games and the rank of Moderator, but if you wanted something that a friend had under greed, that is a sin

Anger, has anyone stolen your things and made you mad? well, believe it or not G-D(jewish god and christian god and Catholic god were the same) was mad! even at his own people!
but if you are mad for no reason, that is sin

i rest my case my fellow forumers

Jacob 09-19-2003 07:32 PM

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i rest my case my fellow forumers
I know Dyslexic Cockroaches that could have made a better point. That was appauling. Read what he says next time...

And since i'm in a snide mood, are you the product of an Incestuous shenanigan?

Disgruntled Intern 09-19-2003 11:10 PM

Damn you, Jacob, you have beat me to making an incest-based insult.

Abeguy, type coherently, or do not type at all. No one should have to re-read the majority of your posts to figure out what the hell it is you're trying to say.

Throw some punctuation in there, once in a while. In the correct places, please. This will draw the attention away from your horrible spelling.

oddguy 09-20-2003 12:34 AM

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I have my beliefs, you have yours. I do not think yours are wrong, just a bit ignorant. You are more than welcomed to feel the same about me.
I'm glad you understand my right to believe what I want. I also understand that you have a right to think what you do. You just put up some points about sin earlier that were twisted in their presentation to make Christians look like fools. Satan does the exact same thing.....mixing lies with truth and twisting it about to seem like the right thing. You're in the right church.


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You may think that, but like i have said countless times, DI's religion has him living life to the full and loving it. Not feeling guilty or scared...not wanting forgiveness...but feeling fulfilled.
His religion, in my opinion by the way, lets him do whatever bloody thing he wants without accepting consequences. God doesn't want to punish anyone. You guys make it sound like God is this angry guy. He just wants His children to return to Him and be like Him. God cannot live among unrighteousness.


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Your religion seems to have you constantly in fear. Be prideful...beg for forgiveness. Be nasty...beg for mercy. Have a nasty thought...GOOD GOD GET THE SIN CLEANSED FROM YOU IMMEDIATLY!!
I'm not perfect. I know this and so does God. At least I am trying as hard as I can to be like Him and respect His commandments. God recognizes that I'm doing my best, and I am blessed for that. I'm not in fear of God. When it says to fear God in the scriptures, in Hebrew "fear" is interprated as "respect". I do not fear God....I just respect Him. I also am not miserable and in constant worry. I'm happy!:fuzgrin:


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Oh, and Oddguy it seemed as if you were making allowances for quite alot of those sins. I.E - "Oh, no, its not a sin if i do this. No, if i do it this way its quite exceptable...yes...not that...people who do it that way are going to burn." im sure if God wanted to create a loophole he would have clearly stated it, as in "This is a sin. But, if you do it this way...its not...so thats ok." but he didn't, did he?
The points DI brought forward about those sins were false. If a family needs moolah to support their family, that is not a sin! It is sin when you lust after money and that is all you care about. If you guys read the Bible, you would know that what you guys are doing is the same things the Pharasies did back in the day. The Pharasies believed that since you couldn't work on the Sabbath day, that meant you could not walk past a certain amount of steps. The Pharasies actually had people count their steps on Sunday, and if they ran out of steps, they had to sit until Monday came. Jesus spoke against that when he healed a blind man on the Sabbath. Are you guys going to be like the Pharasies and say that was wrong? This same thing applies to what you guys are saying about sin. What I said was right....what you guys said was twisted. I know this stuff....you guys don't.

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Also, you Christian types are wasting your lives horrificly. Why base your entire life on the THEORY and HOPE and FAITHFULNESS that Heaven exists. Why not live life to the full? You have God in your Hearts so im sure he'll forgive you...so, why be all "No, can't do this...no, no...thats wrong!!" cos its silly. When we die we just go onto a new plane of life...no Heaven...no Hell...just a new existance. So, people like me and DI will be ripping the piss out of you lot in the next life, cos not only have we had one amazing life...but we'll be having a second amazing life too...whilst you lot will be boiling in fury realising you were actually wrong.
We'll see who is right in the end.:fuzwink:

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By the by, i can't believe we're having another discussion on this again...
Me too. I hate it when you guys challenge my belief system. It's not like I'm going to go, "Hmmmm. I think DI and Jacob are right. I think I'll deny all those nifty miracles and blessings God has sent me."

I actually want us to be friends. I don't like this constant debate. It hurts my feelings to see what you guys think about God. I love God with all my heart, and no matter what you guys say, you
can't take that away from me.

-oddguy:fuzcool:

Disgruntled Intern 09-20-2003 12:47 AM

"His religion, in my opinion by the way, lets him do whatever bloody thing he wants without accepting consequences."

Have you read the satanic bible?

No?

Then don't make assumptions. I have read 'the good book' many times, so that I may have a firm grasp of what I am talking about in situations such as these.

Satanism does not condone recklessness. Half of the religion is self indulgence, while the other half is accepting the responsibility for the actions you took in order to make yourself happy.

oddguy 09-20-2003 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Intern
"His religion, in my opinion by the way, lets him do whatever bloody thing he wants without accepting consequences."

Have you read the satanic bible?

No?

Then don't make assumptions. I have read 'the good book' many times, so that I may have a firm grasp of what I am talking about in situations such as these.

Satanism does not condone recklessness. Half of the religion is self indulgence, while the other half is accepting the responsibility for the actions you took in order to make yourself happy.

Alright, I'll give you that. I haven't read the satanic bible, but I have read about satan in "the good book", and it doesn't look to good for him in there!:D

Anyway, many people can read the Bible, but not understand what it means or says. Without study and The Holy Ghost, it's pretty much thee and thou gibberish. I know what the Bible means....do you?

-oddguy :fuzcool:

Disgruntled Intern 09-20-2003 01:34 AM

You're a fool if you think there is a 'true' meaning to the bible. It is a book that is left to self interpretation.

Of course satan is portrayed as being a bad guy in your bible. As I previously mentioned, he is used to keep all those who follow 'god' in check. To properly represent good, you must make an example of the polar opposite. You know, 'evil'.

In short, satan is used as a scape goat. People blame sin and evil in this world on him, when actually, the sin and evil can be traced back to mankind.

After all, your god gave us freewill, did he not?

Jacob 09-20-2003 12:21 PM

I think that Oddguy, Grig and PA should read, if not do a little bit of research, on the Satanic Bible. They tell the non-believers to read their Bible so why don't they read other religions Bibles? Oddguy you said that your Bible makes Satan look bad, and so you base your decision of "him" and the religion on that. Surely if you were to truly follow your religion you would do what Jesus would do and see both sides of the story.

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If a family needs moolah to support their family, that is not a sin!
It's not a sin, because it's not Greed. Let me elaborate on a few things some of you said -

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So, if you are starving to death, would it be a sin to eat?
This is why i stated to read peoples posts properly. DI never said it was a sin to eat, he said it was a sin to eat when full.

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And Sloth. if you are trying to get the required amount of rest for your day, is that a sin?
Again, you seem to be mistaking 'Sloth' for 'Sleeping'...

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Greed, what if you need money for your family, and what is the chance of you winning the lottery? very slim and if you do you are very happy that you have extra income. but if you spend it on everything for wacky stuff and rub it in peoples faces, that is sin
If you need money for your family, then it is not a sin. Because it is needed. However, as DI stated, wanting more money is a sin. Wanting abit extra at dinner, is a sin. Wanting more than you need, is a sin. Infact, wanting is a sin. If you have everything you NEED, you are perfectly equipped to live life righteously. Do you NEED an Xbox? Do you NEED MO? Do you NEED a computer? No, but you want these things. Yet because you don't need them you're being Greedy. I suppose this also applies to Lust.

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but if you are mad for no reason, that is sin
It's all very well saying that but who decides if you have a reason? God does. So if somebody close to you gets hit by a car by a drunk driver and you get angry, you may think "I am well within my right to be angry, my close person-thing has been hurt" whereas God may be all "I shall test this person and if they get angry they shall dance in the pit of eternal flame."...or something.

I personally believe that Buddhists are better Bible-following-people. They never Lust, never get Greedy, never get Angry, never Gluttonise, never Slothful, never Prideful, never get jealous...

Oh, and for the lot of you, cos i'm sure everybody has done all of these sins. Here is what you will be facing when you finally go to Hell -

Pride - Placed on a broken wheel
Envy - Put in freezing water
Anger - Dismembered...alive
Sloth - Thrown into Snake pits
Greed - Put in Cauldrons full of boiling Oil
Gluttony - Forced to eat Rats, Toads and Snakes
Lust - Smothered in Fire and Brimstone

Also, here is a brief Synopsis of them all -

Pride;
What it is: Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Why you do it: Well-meaning elementary school teachers told you to "believe in yourself."

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be broken on the wheel.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Pride is linked with the horse and the color violet.

Envy;
What it is: Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.

Why you do it: Because other people are so much luckier, smarter, more attractive, and better than you.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be put in freezing water.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Envy is linked with the dog and the color green.

Anger;
What it is: Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

Why you do it: You're wired for it. Also, the people around you are pretty damn irritating.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be dismembered alive.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Anger is linked with the bear and the color red.

Sloth;
What it is: Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.

Why you do it: You're shiftless, lazy, and good fer nuthin'.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be thrown into snake pits.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Sloth is linked with the goat and the color light blue.

Greed;
What it is: Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

Why you do it: You live in possibly the most pampered, consumerist society since the Roman Empire.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be boiled alive in oil. Bear in mind that it's the finest, most luxurious boiling oil that money can buy, but it's still boiling.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Greed is linked with the frog and the color yellow.

Gluttony;
What it is: Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

Why you do it: Because you were weaned improperly as an infant.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be force-fed rats, toads, and snakes.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Gluttony is linked with the pig and the color orange.

Lust;
What it is: Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

Why you do it: Oh, please.

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be smothered in fire and brimstone. Not kisses.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Lust is linked with the cow and the color blue.


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