Khanz, I'm not talking just concieved; I'm talking about a baby not in the womb of the mother yet also

Pinky you are IMMENSLY backwards in such subjects as Homosexuality and Pregnancy. I really am disgraced, disgusted and seething with anger as soon as you post your biblical, preaching shite. If a baby is a accident then that basically means;

(1) - Its not planned for...
(2) - The mother/father/mother & father are not ready for such a commitment...
(3) - The emotional aspect of the parents is not fully developed.

If you have that child not only are you wreaking your own life, but also the babies life aswell. If its not planned for the chance of the parents putting it up for adoption are quite high. If they dont put it up for adoption then the chances of the parents arguing are likely to become more frequent. The parents are likely to break down into tears, and, even at a early age the child will absorb all of this. Later on in life it may become disturbed, mentally crippled and/or a bastard to other children. The financial requirements for keeping a child may not be met. So the child will be brought up in a very poor home not having much and only just scraping by. I would rather have a child aborted if i knew i could not give it a decent life.

(1) - I agree.

(2) - Like what? Our generation define having sex differently to others. You can get pregnant from Oral, Mutual Masturbation and such like. You dont even have to have full on sex anymore to become pregnant, and its getting increasingly difficult to know what "Sex" is.

(3) - Indeed.

I think you are immensly backwards. You would not know anything about pregnat pains, menstral cycle, etc. Incase you didn't notice or unless you are blind, I haven't post any biblical information. You would not know anything about abortion or how the women would feel because you can't get pregnant. YOU HAD SEX, that's a choice you made. I mean, what's wrong with you Jacob? I'm so disgusted. I mean, if you were not ready then why have sex then? How can it not be planned for? What are you going to expect if you have sex besides getting STDs? Gosh! It's not like you don't know anything about the world these days. Have you been sheltered all your life?

Sometimes, people abortions to suit their selfishness. Like, they still want to have sex, so carrying a baby around will scare off guys. That's what my aunt did. She aborted three babies just to have sex so you can't tell me that it's always an accident Jacob. No one's making you have sex. I know some people who are 16 who go to my church and have babies. They weren't ready but they took responsibilty. You can keep your legs closed. You can't blame it on the baby. Also, not every baby is brought up poor. That I know, sometimes the parents, grandparents help you out or allow you to live with them until you get back on your feet. You would know the consequences. That's why we have a brain Cookoo boy.

Also, when a prostitute has sex with alot of men, and she gets pregant then it's not her fault? It's the childs? That was an accident?

(1) - And thats what makes you backwards.

(2) - See, you have posted your biblical shite so many times and tried to prove points with it that everytime i see you type sumat all i see is "God, he sends gays and abortee's to Hell...God is good...worship God...no other God exists...just God...Yo"

(3) - Indeed...I am male...and thus i have no feelings whatsoever. Also, i am a Closet-Heterosexual...which makes me worse...

(4) - I did!? What...that was quick and a warmth filled moment...

(5) - It is!?

(6) - I dont know, maybe that i had sex and i didn't know it!!

(7) - I'm so confused!!

(8) - I didn't know i had sex!! One minute i was typing a reply to this...and then BOOM!! I've lost my virginity!! I never planned it!!

(9) - Well, i never planned it!!

(10) - Fun?

(11) - Gosh!? Whoa...Stereo-typical Englishman showing!!

(12) - Wow...you, you must be so...so proud?

(13) - Because its in their beliefs...they go to Church. Also their parents probably said "Keep it...Bitch" or something to that effect. I hate religious people...they are so vile.

(14) - I cant...im a Shlut. Yes, thats right...i said Shlut.

(15) - Nobody is, they're just getting rid of it cos they ARE NOT READY!!

(16) - I'm sure there was a good point in there somewhere...

1. What has that got to do with anything?

2. I think it's obvious that he has.

3. It's nobody's fault unless she stupidly decided not to use a condom or a morning after pill. Of course it was an accident.

Well, I think abortion is a good idea if the parents don't want the baby. I mean think about it, would you rather be aborted, or left in a dumpster to die.

Whats that sposed to mean?

(1) - Or maybe its due to them not being emotionally ready.

(2) - Or, like, they are not emotionally stable.

(3) - Not all guys.

(4) - Point? How do you know she did anyway. Pinky, your young, i doubt your going to be told the entire truth. If your parents told you then it could be true, it might not be. If your Aunt told you, again, it might be true it might not be.

(5) - HOW DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE!?

(6) - Im not. But if your not emotionally/financially stable and its not planned then IT IS A ACCIDENT.

(7) - No? Pimps force their hoe's to have sex. If you are saying "Nobody is forcing YOU to have sex" and directing it at me then no, your right. Unfortunatly nobody is forcing me to have sex.

(8) - Its not always due to money problems that the baby is aborted.

(9) - You might not want that sort of dependency, also, who cares if they will help you!? If your not emotionally prepared then you could have a nervous breakdown and possibly spend half of your life in a institution.

(10) - You are really grating on my nerves. Dont start pissing me off even more by calling me names...

'Or does one have to have AIDs for the other to get it?'

Further reading:
http://www.oddworldforums.net/forums...&threadid=5730

1. No, that's what makes you naive.

2. I did not post any biblical information. Are you some idiot or something?

3. I here's a skit:

Jacob and a women were out on a date, his wife watches them on the dinner table and angrily walks over:

Wife: Jacob! What's your excuse!

Jacob: I'm sorry, but I was born to cheat on you. It's not a choice.

Wife: Get out of my house!

Jacob: But I was born this way! *sob* I can explain! I can change. Oh wait, I can't.

4. OHG! LOL! You really can't comprehend! LOL

5. Wow Jacob..you really are naive.

6. No, your just have some type of mental crisis.

7. You always are.

8. I can just imagine your marriage...LOL!!!

9. Then I think you should keep your mouth shut if you can't back up anything.

10. Ha, you make me laugh.

11. Yep that's how I would describe yourself! LOL

12. Atleast I have stories to back up what I am talking about, instead of making up crap. LOL

13. Um no. Theirs some christians who kill, smoke and streal. Don't stereotype and assume that Christians are perfect and care about their christianity. Who cares what you hate because religious people don't like you either.

14. Wow, I've just noticed this, your making fun of what I said because you can't back up your information. :) I can tell by the lack of seriousness.

15. Duh! You would know if your not ready and will not have sex in the first place.

16. You just can't answer it.

Jacob I think you need to download "what would you do" by City High.


1. That's no excuse.

2. Still no excuse.

3. Not all guys but some girls think that. Some guys don't want anything to do with you if you have a baby or an abortion. Sometimes the guys get upset themselves because they want to take responsibilty and take care of the child. You can't get accidentally pregnant that's ridiculous. You better be happy Jacob you are not in America people would look at you like your crazy. it was your choice to open your legs. What do you expect is going to happen? You think having sex is not a choice? That's crazy. Some people wait when they are married, your saying that it's not a choice then?

4. You need a reality check.

5. *slaps forehead* Too easy..too easy...

6. You are too. if you know that you are not financial stable, then don't have kids. It's just as simple you can think you have a brain.

7. they have a mouth, they can say no! Not all pimps make their hoes have sex. Not street prostitutes. Some prostitutes just show what they got, some don't have sex but majority of prostitutes do.

8. How would you know? Sometimes the mother is depressed after she gets a abortion.

9. Not to everyone.

10. You are the one starting it! You took it too far. Making fun of my beliefs, accusing me for stuff, I should be the one calling you names. I wanted to make this a clear argument until you say "stop putting your biblical information or I'm backwards" when I didn't put my biblical information in this topic in the first place! The man asked us what did we think and I posted what I thought, and not to get bitched at by you. If you leave me alone, I will leave you alone. Nothing in my first post, was offensive to anyone in this forum until you came and gripping your mouth off to me. Why can't you except what people think about homosexuality? I can except what people think about christianity because I don't care, as long as I think it's positive. I'm sick of hearing you make fun of what I believe, and I never make fun of your homosexuality. If I do, don't get mad okay? Let the homosexual topic go Jacob. It's over. Not everyone is going to like homosexuality, (some non-christians don't like it) like not everyone is not going to like christianity that's life, deal with it.

Also, I agree with Sydman.

Peaple say that It aint nice to the baby. But sence the baby aint experienced nothing, it has nothing to lose. So the baby wont mind at all.

Ah, yes. If the baby was cuased by a "acsedent" then the woman should defenetly be able to remove it. But It should not be aloud as a last minute panic change of mind.

Grrrrrr...i had this amazingly massive comeback for all of Pinky's ramblings and my comp crashed.

Basically Pinky seems to be labelling all Abortee's with the same label. She cannot comprehend the word "Accident" the whole process of making Love is not to have a baby but to bond with each other and become closer to one another. Pinky seems to think that sex is all about babies. Which is a typical Holy point of view and really does make me laugh at her and her pathetic little life of shite (Apologies...but its one of those days).

Also, she believes everything her family says, she is one of those children were if you say "That man is bad, he is smoking, he will go to Hell." she will go "Bad man...Hell...Smoking = Hell." she sees in black and white and not grey like normal teens.

She backs things up with fictional stories that she CANNOT back-up. Sure, she may say she's backing her point up...but she isn't, cos we will never know for sure.

All in all Pinky is very troubled and i will personally laugh my head off when she finds out what the real world is like. She is being prejudiced and deserves a smacking from all the mothers and fathers who have had to go through the choice of having an abortion. Pinky is out of order saying that the mothers are selfish. You do literally make me want to lash out Pinky, cos you are so out of order its unbelievable. Oh, and for the record, i am not dissing your religion...i am dissing its beliefs. Homophobia is dangerous, thats why i dislike it. Homosexuality is not...

Well said, Chris. I've never before found myself agreeing with you as much as I have in this topic...

But you're fighting a losing battle. It is impossibly to reason with someone who doesn't know the meaning of the word "reasonable". Believe me, I've tried. Many times...

That song is stupid.

Here's why:
The guy says 'I wouldn't want my baby to go through what
I went through.'
Where does the girl mention anything that would suggest that her child will go through anything his mother went through?

Completely stupid. Apart from that, I like the song.

Edit: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cityh...ouldyoudo.html

And why do you want Chris to download that song? It seems to support his point but not yours...

Wow, it's so stupid, it was number one for like three or four months and they won best music group. it does not seem to support his point. I don't even think you know what the song means. It talks about excuses and Jacob making more excuses than everyone on this Earth. Besides, you did not even post the song right.

On to Jacob

You can talk about my family all you want ,You can say anything you want about me I don't care because you don't know me or my family. I did not come to this topic to argue with you. What's your problem? Your the one started it and you just won't admit that you are wrong. If I said something offensive I apologize but I didn't catch why you are arguing with me and I feel as though I did not say anything. I was upset because you lied about me saying that you are going to hell which I never said that to you nor made fun of your sexuality. Your just making up those lies. Your not upsetting me, you have a troubled life and you are I'm afraid to say it but a 3BG. You are a big liar so just shut-up because you are just mad because you don't have anything to back up what you are talking about so you have to diss me make fun of me, so this proves it. You don't even know what I believe, you think that everyone has to be gay and so such and you were dissing my beliefs. People will look like you are stupid when you say that having sex is not a choice and it's an accident to get pregnant, I am helping you out because people will look at you like you are a foo Jacob if you think that it's not your fault if you cheat on someone, have unprotected sex, etc. You don't get it! It's like I have to tell you ten millions times you cannot comprehend You don't even know what the real world is like and I am just laughing at you Jacob because you really sound stupid, and you think that people won't kill? Rape? it's like you are saying that no one does bad on this Earth. You thinks it's safe out their and nothing bad can happen to you. You need to get a reality check...better yet, you need to hang out in the streets more instead of staying home and playing with your balls all day and bitching at people. Besides, you started this argument with me so there. I don't want to argue with you anymore because it's stupid. I can voice my opinions on abortion, that's what this topic is about, not about "Jacob is bitching again for no reason".

Anyways, I just don't like abortion. I think it's wrong. If your not financial stable or emotionally stable, then wait until you are financially stable or until your committed. I'm done-

I don't think you do either. Besides, everything you say we have to believe and your right too. Figures.....

1. I never said it wasn't popular. I just mentioned that the lyrics didn't make sense.

2. It's also about the problems associated with having children when you aren't ready.

3. I missed out a comma to correct the grammar and you tell me off?

1. How can the lyrics not make sense?

2. Yeah that's right and it talks about some other things too because the mother was a prostitute, and it talks about getting on your feet and stop making all of these tired excuses.

3. No not that it's just the lyrics you posted are not right, that's all.

1. It's not hard to not make any sense, evidently.

2. What if abortions were made illegal? Then her perfectly valid excuse would probably be 'but I couldn't have had an abortion.'

I still belive the song supports the cause of pro-choice a lot more than the that of 'pro-life'. Feel free to prove me wrong though...

I can post the lyrics.

(1) - I dont want to, you bring them up to try and prove your correctness.

(2) - If i said everything i thought about you it would be old and un-original.

(3) - My point proven.

(4) - You knew its a controversial topic.

(5) - Your views that will contribute to more f*cked upness in the world.

(6) - There is no right or wrong answer. Just reasonable and non-reasonable.

(7) - oooooooK?

(8) - Your making up your proof.

(1) - What did you say earlier?

(2) - I know.

(3) - Of course.

(4) - Your the one telling people that gays are gay so they can get laid.

(5) - You believe all abortee's are selfish and wanna have sex and all gays are gay for pity.

(6) - I think everybody has to be understanding and open.

(7) - I never said sex wasn't a choice. Of course it is. But having sex helps make a relationship stronger. It is proven that good sex helps a relationship. Bad sex will hinder it. Having sex before a marriage will help people figure out if they want to commit. Also sometimes pregnancy can be accidental.

(8) - You aren't you are making a idiot out of yourself. If somebody cheats on somebody it is their fault unless they get proof from a Doctor that they have a problem

(1) - I do Pinky, i do.

(2) - And i pity you.

(3,4 & 5) - I never said anything to do with that!! Please quote me were i said sumat like that!!

(6) - Pinky, you need to mingle with some real people instead of "Holier than thou" religious, bible bashers and realise that the world your living in is just a sugar coated world were all the people you know see in black and white.

(1) - You did. You will see in my conclusion.

(2) - Stupid = Jacob has a point and i dont want to admit it.

(3) - See my conclusion.

(4) - Conclusion...see it.

Conclusion:
Basically Pinky you speak without thinking. You believe you are right when you are so wrong, that wrongness is actually laughing at you. You could have easily offended people, saying abortion is for selfish people. Saying that homosexuality is for people who want to get laid. Pinky, i could get laid, i dont need to say im Bisexual for somebody to lay me. You say people are laughing at me? Then fine, let them laugh. I for one know i am better off not being in a family like yours, they personally would make me sad and depressed. Their teachings are wrong and immoral. You dont have to be married just so you can have sex. Having sex can be for fun and make you bond with somebody more. Psychologists have proven that having good sex is more likely to make your relationship last longer. If you get married and are bad in bed it is likely you will be divorced. Also, some people can be addicted to sex and thus cheat more. You need to start living in the real world, all of us lot have used scientificr research to prove our points. You have used your closet case bro and ex to prove yours. Two people who we dont know, which thus makes your "Point" non-existant.

I am all DONE.

..And your point is? I don't care what you say Jacob, all of that is not true and you tend to lie all the time and start arguments with people so conclusion..whatever. I mean, your lie about me saying" that homosexual are going to hell" is getting old and pretty fast . I never said you were going to hell, nor did I judge you on your sexuality. Nothing on this topic was scriptural base, nor was that homosexual topic. So is that your only combat? It's obvious that your mad because I have valid proof than you do and you don't have anything better to do besides make fun of people and ramble on and on about the samr thing. I would stop right now because you are making a complete ass of yourself. Your wasting my time and others I don't care anymore.

Anyways, back on topic

I believe that in the past you have mentioned something about homosexuality and Hell. Cos i remember somebody saying that its a bunch of shit.

Pinky, you are obviously losing as you are saying "I dont care anymore" which is something you say when you start to lose. Everybody knows this and everybody laughs as soon as you say it. I may be making an ass out of myself but i am making a point as i do. You dont, you are just showing what a nasty, spitefilled, little girl you are. Just because i start to shed light on your beliefs starting to be wrong you go off in a hissy fit. You, my dear, may not be lying but everybody knows that your beliefs are;

(1) - Appalling.
(2) - Nasty.
(3) - Prejudiced.
(4) - Not worth beliving.
(5) - and should be kept to the believers.

I have a point Pinky, you sweetheart, do not.

Can't we all just get along?

Seriously though, could everyone save the vicous arguments for their personal lives (or to each other via PM) so that the rest of us don't have to hear them? I don't think I'm the only one who finds these cat fights annoying so please shut up.

Just tell your opinion and let other members tell theirs, don't try to convince them they are wrong.

Btw, that message was intended for EVERYONE on the forums (self included). I think that the fights are dumb and this is the most recent. Hopefully people will be more considerate of other members from now on.

Um, no your beliefs are like that. You don't know what everythinks so your lying again. Your the one who is prejudice against christians and you seriously don't have a point. Your beliefs are sickening and inhumane and immature and naive. I did not say anything to start an argument. like Khaz said, these arguments are dumb so please shut-up and leave me alone. I'm not losing I don't care less about winning it's just annoying so get off my back Jacob. It's pointless Just deal with the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you. i don't have to agree with you all the time.

I agree Khanz.

But these arguments are somewhat good. They teach newbies what we, the forumers, tolerate. And that we except people sharing their opinions so long as they dont think they are correct.

PINKY, SHUT UP!! LOL, JESUS CHRIST!! YOUR VIEWS CORRUPT THE WORLD, MINE DO NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE UNREASONABLE, MINE ARE NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE PREJUDICED, MINE ARE NOT (I was joking about that Christian thing.) Your views can do damage, especially if you have kids. You are seriously troubled girl, think about what your saying. Think about how you would feel in that position. I bet your the kind of person who believes Paedophiles being put to death is wrong. Pinky, face facts...the world is a big, donut shaped plop. God went wrong and so he has made another world somewhere else. He doesn't give a shit about us and the only reason people like you and my family exist is so that my kind can look at you and say "Thank God we are not like them." and praise his name. Pinky, tell me;

Why are your beliefs not unreasonable?
Why do you believe in them?
What do you hope to achieve by believing in them?
Why are you going against scientific evidence?
Why are you being so nasty to homosexuals and abortees!?

You are a very interesting person Jacob.

You shut-up! You are being such a prick! I tried to be calm but you are pissing me off! I do not have anything against homosexuals or abortees! I never said I was against gay people so stop lying! I just think the action of abortion is wrong. You think you are right all the time, and everything I say is wrong? Look whos talking! You are the most negative immature person I have ever met! You don't know the meaning of stop or leave me alone. You were not joking about the Christian thing. Eveyone has their own beliefs and I have every right to believe what i want to believe! I can believe that God exist. Get a life and LEAVE ME ALONE!! I don't have to explain to you nothing! Just except it! Your mind is out there somewhere, why are you getting so offensive? Just like Khaz said, don't try to convince people are wrong and allow me to tell my views. You agree what Khaz said? Yeah right! Your the one who is hateful, prejudice and saying that people's beliefs are wrong.

Pinky, i am not making fun of your beliefs. I, too, believe in God. Im Catholic...sort of but it doesn't mean i go around saying that "People who want abortions are selfish, cos all they want is sex" thats what pissed me off. Also, i am neither hateful nor prejudice. If i was hateful Pinky i would make you crumble within seconds...literally.
Also, im immature? Please, your the one name calling. And i do not want to prove that i am correct, as i said before, there is no correct answer. There is only the reasonable and unreasonable. Believe what you want to believe, but i have substantial evidence whilst you have your family (And who knows what they're like.).

Back on topic; Pro-choice.

Well then you don't have to agree what I say. Don't think that people are not doing things just to have sex, it happens sometimes people are crazy these days. If I say people who have abortions are selfish and blah blah blah, then you are just as worst sterotyping christians which makes me upset and assuming you know my family well and you thinking your better than me and know about pregnancy and menstration when you are a guy. Theirs nothing you can say to me that can make me crumble I've dealt with people worst than you (they are those types of people who want to beat you up when you first move in town, it's annoying) If it pisses you off then just say so instead of arguing and calling me names because it's only going to make the argument worst. Theirs people in the forums who are against abortion. Some people have abortions for pleanty of reasons and sex can be one of them. I mean, you don't want to prove that you are correct? Does this ring a bell: "YOUR VIEWS CORRUPT THE WORLD, MINE DO NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE UNREASONABLE, MINE ARE NOT. YOUR VIEWS ARE PREJUDICED, MINE ARE NOT." I did not say that everyone does abortions for sex. I believe it's a cruel and selfish act and you just started arguing with me and calling me backwards. It's selfish because people can do it for sexual reasons, doesn't want to take the responsibility, and would not give the baby a chance in life because it's not the baby's fault that it's born. When if your mother aborted you? I think of it as a death penalty. You think it's wrong for a murder, but a child you don't think it's wrong? You have to think about it it's still a living and growing organism inside of a women. Some women fall into deep depressions too. I don't think I'm better than you. I have a right to voice my opinions. Before you decide to do sex, think of the consequences that's all I'm saying, and don't be stupid and say it's not your fault that you are pregnant. Take responsibility of your actions.