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Gluk Schmuck 04-13-2002 10:49 AM

1. Who's Martin Luther? Martin Luther King or someone else?

2. How ****ing stupid do you have to be to be Christian...

...and hate Jesus 'Christ'? Or did he only like one Jew?


Sorry for the gap in the sentence!

Fazerina 04-13-2002 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck
1. Who's Martin Luther? Martin Luther King or someone else?

You can't be serious Tom. What do they teach you on your religion classes?

EDIT: If you don't do religion at school, I can understand...

Gluk Schmuck 04-13-2002 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Fazerina
You can't be serious Tom. What do they teach you on your religion classes?
At the moment we're watching a video about a strange person who has just recently smashed up some shops outside a Jewist temple. I think his name was Jesus or Nazerath.

And were you planning on telling me who this person is?

Edit: Abby told me. A load of help you were, Jenni! I'm just glad you aren't my auntie! :P

Edit again: You're too late!

Fazerina 04-13-2002 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck

And were you planning on telling me who this person is?

Oh, sorry... :D

Martin Luther was this German guy, who lived 1483-1546. He was the most remarkable reformer, they say...

EDIT:

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Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck
A load of help you were, Jenni! I'm just glad you aren't my auntie! :P
What? I got fired? *starts crying* I still want to be your auntie!! :lol:

Statikk HDM 04-13-2002 01:42 PM

Luther isn't God. He is intitled to screw up, to err is to be human you know. And I wasn't familiar with those quotes, but we could take your religious/role model/leaderss and decimate them.

Sydney 04-13-2002 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Statikk HDM
Luther isn't God. He is intitled to screw up, to err is to be human you know. And I wasn't familiar with those quotes, but we could take your religious/role model/leaderss and decimate them.
I'm relieved to know you weren't aware of Martin Luther's other sides. He also believed Satan lived in a lake atop of a moutain in Switzerland by the way, and claimed to have seen a regular-looking child born not of human parents but of the devil. Luther didn't just err - he encouraged sin.

Don't take it personally, I was just presenting you with what Martin Luther was. I think it's ghastly someone would see him as a role model.

Fazerina 04-13-2002 01:59 PM

Heh. I didn't know these things about Luther. :lol:

Jacob 04-13-2002 02:01 PM

I did actually think Martin Luther was Martin Luther King aswell...and i was so very confused by it all. Oh and Syd...when i said that Christ was a slag...it was sort of a sarky joke. Oh...and also, i am Catholic, and yet i am really quite confused by whats considered sinful when confessing, i dont really want to let anything humiliating slip when its not relevant now do i.

Gluk Schmuck 04-13-2002 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob
i am really quite confused by whats considered sinful when confessing
Tell 'Father' that you've been wearing clothes made from different fibres and that you've been coveting thy neighbour's ass!

Jacob 04-13-2002 03:06 PM

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Tell 'Father' that you've been wearing clothes made from different fibres and that you've been coveting thy neighbour's ass!
Hmmm...i wonder how many hail mary's i'd get for that.

Jacob 04-13-2002 03:07 PM

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Tell 'Father' that you've been wearing clothes made from different fibres and that you've been coveting thy neighbour's ass!
Hmmm...i wonder how many hail mary's i'd get for that.

(For Doug...this is a inquisitive tone of voice.)

BiddaMD 04-14-2002 06:17 PM

Not only did the mother ****er (Luther) hate jews, but he helped the wide pread belief that stupid people and criminals should be castrated...leading to the fundamentals of the Nazi party.

Jacob 04-14-2002 07:12 PM

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criminals should be castrated
Only Paedo's...and they shunt have n e anthesetic.

Statikk HDM 04-14-2002 10:29 PM

Man, I just thought Luther was for sola gratia, sola scriptua. Salvation by one god, by the word, and by grace. All right Luther, screw you. When did you become crazy and write this silly shit? I want some answers, out of what books were these quotes take. Bah, you suck compared to Pascal anyway. I amsure my pastor would be interested to hear this crap. Damn, Luther is as bad as the Pope.

Nate 04-15-2002 12:19 AM

Back to sex...
 
Sorry that I am coming in a bit late in the discussion but I only read it today and decided to put in my two cents worth:

Preists aren't allowed to have sex bcos there was some Pope in the 16th century who had a whole lot of illegitimate children running around and giving him problems, so he made the rule that catholic priests should be celibate.

It doesnt' actually have any commandments in the bible against paedophilia but as you can't have sex with anyone you to whom you aren't married, I think this would stop you (unless you are married to an 8 year old). < I'm basing this on the old Testament as I know nothing about the new one as I'm Jewish>

Also Rabbis can have sex and do - a lot! The average number of kids among rabbis that I know is over 5 (more than twice the national average). One of the major differenced between Christianity and Judaism is their opinions on sex. Christianity sees sex as a necessary evil whilst Judaism sees it as an important part of the relationship between a husband and a wife. In fact, if you have sex on the Sabbath it is counted as a double good deed!

I hope that may have enlightened you a little

cul8r

NR

Gluk Schmuck 04-15-2002 03:12 PM

Re: Back to sex...
 
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Originally posted by Nate_dog_woof
1. One of the major differenced between Christianity and Judaism is their opinions on sex.

2. Christianity sees sex as a necessary evil whilst Judaism sees it as an important part of the relationship between a husband and a wife.

3. I hope that may have enlightened you a little

1. I'm glad Judaism doesn't have the same views on sex as Christianity.

2. I can see why I don't have any marks against Judaism on my hated organisations list.

3. It has.
So, just to summarize: Judaism is just like Christianity but less evil! I never knew that before, maybe my RE classes are funded by Reg Vardy.

I was only taught about how voltage and current are related today in physics. Maybe teacher last year was being payed by Reg Vardy too.

Lampion 04-16-2002 02:32 AM

Random info: Catholicism is the bigger religion in Brazil. A brazilian is among the probable nominees to assume the chair of the pope, after Joao Paulo, the II.

Enough with the random info. I'm not a catholic, an I strongly disagree with many of catholic dogmas, one of them being the celibacy of its priests. This positioning tends to lead people to view sex as a sinful and dirty behavior. It should be a choice (although I can't see why anyone would choose that), rather than an obligation.

While keeping in the christian discussion, I'd like to hear from you any opinions, informations, or links to studies regarding the concept of the Antichrist, and his relationship with the number 666, the suposedly number of the beast. Thanks in advance.

Surfacing 04-16-2002 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lampion
and his relationship with the number 666, the suposedly number of the beast. Thanks in advance.

All i know about that, is it's really 999 for some reason.

Lampion 04-16-2002 05:53 AM

Yeah, I also watched "End of Days", with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Any serious source on informations about the number of the beast and the antichrist?

Sl'askia 04-16-2002 10:15 AM

Real quick before I have to go to the hell known as work.

I read on another board that a pope (forgot which one...later if that board still exists...I will provide the link where I got it from) was having problems with having a lot of illeginament(sp terrible speller...so sue me..) kids running around causing him problems. So he made Celebity a requirement for the priesthood. So...this bit all came about because a pope couldn't keep his pants on!

Gluk Schmuck 04-16-2002 01:18 PM

An interesting article in The Times today regarding paedophilia and celebacy among the preisthood,
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-268623,00.html

Something in The Times about paedophilia and preists,
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-268647,00.html

Danny 04-16-2002 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Lampion
While keeping in the christian discussion, I'd like to hear from you any opinions, informations, or links to studies regarding the concept of the Antichrist, and his relationship with the number 666, the suposedly number of the beast. Thanks in advance.
All I know is that the Antichrist's true identity is Barney the Dinosaur...

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Barney = the Antichrist
The truth is finally known! Barney seems innocent and sweet but in fact he is the Antichrist. It's all very simple:

1) Start with the given: CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR

2) Change all U's to V's (which is proper Latin anyway): CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

3) Extract all Roman Numerals: C V V L D I V

4) Convert into Arabic values: 100 5 5 50 500 1 5

5) Add all the numbers: 666

Thus, Barney is the Antichrist.
Oh, serious information. No, sorry... I did have one on Bill Gates as well, but I lost that...

Jacob 04-16-2002 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lampion
While keeping in the christian discussion, I'd like to hear from you any opinions, informations, or links to studies regarding the concept of the Antichrist, and his relationship with the number 666, the suposedly number of the beast. Thanks in advance
It was made up by the media. They took the '999' of help and figured if you turned it upside down '666' it'd mean the opposite. The Anti-Christ was originally formed by a Devil and a woman...but that woman killed herself so Lucifiel had to take my poor mother (Its like God...but eviler.) And thus is me.

Statikk HDM 04-17-2002 01:21 AM

Yeah, Jacob, the apostle John is the media.

Lampion 04-17-2002 06:19 AM

Statikk, by your short sentence, I conclude that the apostole John has something to do with the numer 666, (probably in the apocalipse book), but your reply was not self-explanatory.

Keep in mind that this is not a chat room, and we often wait several hours to get a response to our posts.

So, instead of only showing Jacob's lack of knowledge on the subject, you hould try to fill your reply with more substantial informations on the topics we are discussing here.


Oh well, at least it will make me read the apocalipse book again...

BTW, great links, Gluk Schmuck!

Sydney 04-17-2002 06:24 AM

Re: Re: Back to sex...
 
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Originally posted by Gluk Schmuck
So, just to summarize: Judaism is just like Christianity but less evil!
Compare the new testament with the old testament and I think you'll find it's quite the opposite way around.

Gluk Schmuck 04-17-2002 01:52 PM

Re: Re: Re: Back to sex...
 
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Originally posted by Sydney
Compare the new testament with the old testament and I think you'll find it's quite the opposite way around.
Does the new testement state that the bad things in the old testement are wrong because I can't think how it could make the old testement any less worse.


Taa, Lampy.

Jacob 04-17-2002 07:14 PM

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Yeah, Jacob, the apostle John is the media.
Ugh...John. Why would you believe anything that 'Apostle' said. I think he helped write the bible and he added some of the shittier things innit.