*groans and rolls her eyes at the two christan fanatics* fine...believe what you want...but don't force your 'religion' on me or anyone else. Since 'god' had given us free will...then we have to free will to NOT believe in 'him'. And since I don't believe in 'your' 'god', you are not going to change me. I was roman catholic...was not my thing so I don't follow it. If you don't believe in evolution, fine...we will all find out for sure when we die who is wrong and right on this.

*Rolls eyes at the maniac* Nobody wants to change you. I don't care what you believe. DO whatever I don't care about your life. I am not trying to force you or anyone else to convert anyone to christianity. Don't accuse me on doing that.

[ December 27, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

It isn't Saying that. This is where we came from Organisms are tiny mircroscopic anmials right they evolve into bigger creatures (like dinosaurs) after a really long time the dinosaurs died out possible by a big rock that blocked out the sun causing them to die etc etc . Finally mammals were on the earth there were apes scientist say we evolved from apes so the apes evolved into the first humans. So in conclusion thats how I think we evolved into what we are today. (so do lots of scientist).


Sorry if I didn't drop the subject but this had to be said because Pinky quoted that we just got on earth like that.

Well thats my 2 cents.

Okay, I am going to ignore most of what Pinky and Statikk said because it is simply laughable and ridiculous. I do want to pick up on one point of Statikk's, though:

On that basis, do you persecute people who eat oysters [since the Bible says that they are sinners in the same chapter in which it says that Homosexuality is a sin]? If you do, then you are an Idiot. If not, then you are a Hypocrite, for you have just said that we can't pick and choose what to obey and what to ignore. Your choice, are you an Idiot or a Hypocrite?

No wonder you don't belive in evolution, you don't understand it at all.
Evolution requires a changing environment, anyone who understands anything about evolution knows that.

Aye Gluk. If the world wasn't constantly changing...we would all still be amobias. Evolution occurs because of constant change in the environment.
Here's something to think about. There are many races of domesticated dogs today...all of which are descendents of wolves. Early man started taking pups and taming some of the wolves thousands of years ago. Over time with mans influence, they 'evolved' into the many different kinds of dogs we know of today. Now this is not really 'true' evolution...as it was human guided.
Here is another example one of true evolution:
There are two groups of monkeys (don't remember what it is called) that live next to a canyon, one group on either side. They are the same species...but look slightly different from each other. How? A long time ago the canyon wasn't deep enough to prevent the monkeys from intermiggling. As the canyon got wider and deeper due to the forces of erosion, the two groups couldn't intermiggle anymore...so they started going seperate ways evolution wise.

And you don't understand creationism or better yet the bible! He can believe what he wants to. Don't force him to believe in the evolution theory!

Pinky, we understand your beliefs a hell of a lot better than you understand ours. Which is an achievement, considering how much more sense ours make than yours...

Huh, no you don't. Why do you ask me such crazy questions if you do? If you know about christianity so much. Besides, you don't believe in anything. Don't say that I don't know about the evolution theory. I studied it in school.

:mad: Pinky, How DARE you suggest that I don't believe anything? Just because I haven't been brainwashed by some xenophobic organised fundamentalist cult does NOT mean that I'm some kind of cold, beliefless creature! :mad: My beliefs are every bit as valid as yours. More valid, in fact, since I have actualy evidence to support my beliefs, whereas yours are blind faith. How I pity you.

What makes you think that you know so much about Evolution because you learned about it in school, and yet you think that we know nothing about Christianity even though we've been forced to learn about it in school? I was even forced to pray, for f*ck's sake, and sing hymns, up until year 8, when they stopped trying to brainwash us. So don't go treating us like we know nothing, okay?

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I wasn't trying to make him belive it, I was correcting his very, very, very incorrect statement about a subject I, evidently, understand better than him.
I may not understand it as well as you or Stattik do but I went to sunday-school for quite a while and I know the most evil passage in the Bible (that I know of), Lev 20:13.

Oh yeah, in my middle-school we had to sing hymns, I'll never forgive them for that. There were harly any songs in our book things which weren't themed around Christianity.
If we didn't sing we were told-off. If we used made-up words we were told-off. Stupid ****ing school, whoever had the idea of us singing Christian hymns for ****'s sake should be shot and allowed to bleed to death.

I feel you Gluk. My parents made me go to catholic schools all the way through high school. Though we didn't have to sing hymns or anything. Grade school wasn't so bad but in High School religion was a 'required' course! *shudder* It was sooo boring! Especially church...ugh....*dies of boredum*

You you have taken it to far! Don't you dare say that christianity is a cult!

I pity you for the sorry pathetic life you are living! Don't say that I don't know anything about evolution theory and I am green behind the ears! I'm not stupid, I know the 411. So you don't have to pity me.

SO you stop treating me that I don't know anything about evolution theory, Darwin and all that blind brainwash false facts! I'm sick of you "Oh, what I believe is right and what you believe is wrong!" Type of attitude! Your proof is not valid at all! It's blind, made up, stupid filled up the gaps of society information that some messed up man made up!

I don't have to believe what you believe! I don't want to believe in the evolution theory. The theory is'nt just! You believe in evolution. I don't care. But don't try to pull me out of what I believe, because of your sorry butt!

If I believe in God creating the earth in 7 days, that's me. Don't say that I'm wrong because I have the right to believe that. When if there is more proof that God did create the heavens and Earth? What are you going to do about it? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ok, this is just silly. Everything you have just said applies to your beliefs, not mine. YOU are the one who has been brainwashed. The Bible is the one full of false facts, made up to fill in gaps in people's understanding. YOU are the one who seems to think everyone should believe the same as you. Why do you despise me so, just because I am prepared to listen to evidence, and you're not?

I never wanted anyone on this board to believe what I believe! So don't lie! I was just stating what I believed and you come along ang try to prove me that my beliefs were wrong! Well, what makes you the better person who's trying to force me to believe in the evolution theory, when you claimed when I tried to force you to believe in Creationism?

Believe me, I am not brainwashed and I do listen to people's facts. I don't have to believe in them like you don;t want to believe in mines. That's why I don't post my evidence. The bible is not false and you can't prove that.

1. Liar.

2. When have I ever tried to force you to believe what I believe? Ever?

3. If that's so, why have I posted the proof of the Big Bang Theory 4 times, and you still claim there's no proof?

4. No, it's because you don't have any. If you do, post it. What's stopping you?

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: Rettick ]

Darwin risked his life telling evolution to a group of highly religious "scientists". now think why the heck would he do that for a bunch of meaningless facts?

Zealots like you make Christianity extremely unnatractive to the unbeliever. You assume on faith alone that a book of the ancients is the ultimate truth, closing your mind to anything contrary to what the book says. Is that what Christianity is about? Shutting your mind off to the rest of the world? Blindly denying scientific discoveries in favour of an ancient book?

It just so happens that you're a Christian; you believe your faith is the ultimate truth. News flash: So do Hindus! There's nothing distinguishing Christianity from the hundreds of other religions mankind gave birth to.

My main concern with some followers is that they use their faith to condemn groups of people. Religion appears to be dying a slow and painful death in this world, eventually we will realise that this life is our only heaven, we wont extend our yearning for self-preservation to fanciful ideas of an afterlife, for which we compete for violently. Compassion is the one, true religion that will give humans what we desire.

By the way, a scripture teacher once told me that if there was no afterlife, there would be no difference between the lives lead by Hitler and Mother Theresa. Why can't one be good for goodness sake, not just for hopes of a special place in heaven?

Rettikk the Freaking Old Testament covenant IS GONE!! YOU OBEY GOD TO RESPECT AND LOVE HIM,NOT BECAUSDE A COMMUNITY WILL KILL YOU! STOP TALKING ABOUT OYSTERS,DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE SAID THAT! AND DON"T CALL ME AN IDIOT!

Geez!, I belive in God .... Don't get so worked up about it ....I read here that some people don't belive in GOD and I don't care, cuz I do

Answer my question, Statikk! If I keep asking the same question, it's because you never answer! Do you believe it is a sin to eat Oysters?

[ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: Rettick ]

NO!!
It has been naturall ever since the beginning of time for the larger creature to eat the smaller ones......

...Mudokon101

sydney I believe zealots were the jewish fighting people like this to stop from being killed.

Rettik, sorry for getting like that in my previous post. i will answer, though:It is not a sin to eat an oyster. You are probaly getting that odd idea from leviticus.This order from god is his old covenant. This is the one Jews believe. This is now irrelevant. We all can speak to God directly and do not have to fear god because jesus came and died for all sin. The new covenant is basically this, "Believe that Jesus is the Savior and live accordingly to god as best as you can. Believing that Jesus came to die for your sins+repenetance+=Heaven. Capisce? Also read an epistle 1Cor will kinda put this into perspective. It isn';t that long so read it, no matter how repulsive you think the bible is.

But the chapter that says that Homosexuality is a sin is also in the Old Testament, so isn't that also to be judged out of date now?

Whatever Rettick, your such a liar. I do have proof but you won't get the proof or you will not understand it. SO there.

I don't wanna believe in that stupid irrelevant theroy because it's false, blasemphy, and it's not real!

Also, I Think Last night, God meant for me to watch Benny Hinn Last night. There! He gave me proof that God existed and what happend to the dinosaurs yo. I was shocked what had happened to them and how they were created. He showed me the scriptures about it in the bible and explained it to me. :D

1. I asked you a question. Why do you never answer my questions? Is it that you have no answers?

2. You didn't understand my proof, but I still gave it to you.

3. To use your words: Whatever, Pinky.

*laughs really, really, really hard!!!*

But seriously, if you don't want to hear it fine. Proof that is. Proves your wrong then.
What's your question?

[ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: PinkHaired Mudokon CWR ]

:mad: Pinky I do want to hear your proof! Why else would I ASK for it? You're the one who refused to give it to me! Stop putting words into people's mouths; it doesn't make you seem clever, it just makes you seem like you have no argument! :mad:

Don't call me a dummy! dummy!

You the one who is like whatever and all that mess. MAke up your mind. You wanna hear it or not?