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Nepsotic 12-15-2016 10:53 AM

You thought it was the- wrong... green?

Nate 12-15-2016 10:54 AM

Nah. It was more brown and orange than red. I'm talking about the vegetation more than the backgrounds.

Also, I loved the transitions between areas in the original Monsaic Lines, but there were fewer (and they zoomed faster) in NnT.

OWI_Alex 12-15-2016 11:02 AM

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See guys? Directly from the horse's mouth. Confirmed!

E: So, was it Lorne who wrote the poems?

No.

Nepsotic 12-15-2016 11:41 AM

Stop being so salty Al.
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Also, I loved the transitions between areas in the original Monsaic Lines, but there were fewer (and they zoomed faster) in NnT.
Yeah whenever NnT did those transitions they always tend to overdo it, making it look like the camera is flying around. It was really weird.

SgabbitGabbiar 12-15-2016 11:45 AM

Abe's Oddysee.

I really like NNT , but the nostalgia wins.

Sybil Ant 12-15-2016 11:46 AM

Monsaic Lines was my fav part of the game, I thought it was a pretty faithful representation of the original, and I don't really have any complaints beyond the general, "NnT didn't quite hit the ambience/feeling of the original," gripe that a lot of people seem to have. That being said I do think NnT was a good game.

Feel like not enough people tell Alex &co. just how much we appreciate them bringing back what was once considered to be a long dead franchise. Ya' did gud, man.

Nepsotic 12-15-2016 11:49 AM

Stop ball washing

Sybil Ant 12-15-2016 12:29 PM

Telling someone they did good is ball washing now? Man you must be shit with dogs.

Nepsotic 12-15-2016 12:51 PM

Guillemot is great with dogs

MA 12-15-2016 03:29 PM

best thread we've ever had in OD. ever.

ever.

Oddey 12-15-2016 09:28 PM

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let's not forget that the Steam port of AO was a fucking disaster riddled with all kinds of audio and gameplay glitches.

I feel like I've heard this a few times, but I've played a lot of AO on PC only and I can only think of a couple gameplay glitches I've ever encountered: a mine you can hop on in Monsaic lines where you're meant to use Shrykull power, a strange section where I somehow got sligs to react to each other saying "what" causing an infinite loop of whats, a few times where I've managed to make sligs walk off cliffs by continuously talking to them and this one time where I made the game crash and I have no idea how. And, short of the game crash, none of these were really game-breaking, since it didn't let you skip anything (except a slig puzzle maybe).

What kind of glitches have you seen in the PC port of AO? (since I'm pretty sure the Steam Port is identical to the original PC port)

Nepsotic 12-16-2016 03:12 AM

The mine thing isn't a glitch, you can actually hop through pretty much every batch of mines in the background of the game, their hitboxes just suck.

As for the glitches, it's mainly audio-related. If you die as the secret area music plays, the note that you died on will play forever until you visit a secret area again. In Monsaic Lines, the whole soundtrack is pretty much fucked, there's dissonant chords, wrong notes and the Slig Action theme is completely broken.

Also I'm pretty sure the Steam version is different as some bugs I found I don't remember being in the original PC port, though I can't remember which ones.

Varrok 12-16-2016 03:19 AM

The PC version got, I think, at least two patches since the release in '97. Steam version is obviously the most updated one

SgabbitGabbiar 12-16-2016 03:28 AM

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The PC version got, I think, at least two patches since the release in '97. Steam version is obviously the most updated one

Really ? what was fixed?

MA 12-16-2016 03:31 AM

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and the Slig Action theme is completely broken.

yeah i was actually pissed off when i first noticed that, it's one of my favourite tunes in AO. i only have the Steam version and i'll be fucked if i'm to set the playstation up, so whatever. the sligs are fucking cool.

ndvr 12-16-2016 03:48 AM

Oddysee, of course. God knows how many times in my childhood I had nightmares based on Rupture Farms, sligs, meatgrinders, GODDAMN BATS and Abe being shotted/eated/bited/falled to death/stabbed by Scrabans/discovered in shadows and being shotted etc. Even nowadays playing Oddysee can't shrug off feeling of Abe's weakness and how overall dangerous situations he is in.
A whole lot to this feeling of course adds sound effects like sound of being shotted, getting into meatgrinder or falling to death with Abe's loud "Aaaa...". And that creepy few music notes, which plays after you died...
Last but not least is, surprisingly, older graphics - seeing Abe and mudokons in game, without that much details of their, I'd say, cute faces manages to subconciously pretend that mudokons are humans, and playing as Abe, who you somehow interpret to be a human also causes to merge yourself with protagonist and yet again realize that GOD HOW MUCH that bullets will hurt, ripping YOUR armorless almost-naked body...

Thanks for the broken childhood, OWI! :) (just joking).

N'n'T somehow was more cartoonish, I'd say "friendly" to you, with more bright colors, more detailed models (thus distancing mudokons from humans), less creepy sounds and lighter death animations. Perhaps, because of all of this (and thus less scary), it was less memorable.

Oddey 12-16-2016 04:01 AM

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The mine thing isn't a glitch, you can actually hop through pretty much every batch of mines in the background of the game, their hitboxes just suck.

As for the glitches, it's mainly audio-related. If you die as the secret area music plays, the note that you died on will play forever until you visit a secret area again. In Monsaic Lines, the whole soundtrack is pretty much fucked, there's dissonant chords, wrong notes and the Slig Action theme is completely broken.

Also I'm pretty sure the Steam version is different as some bugs I found I don't remember being in the original PC port, though I can't remember which ones.

That's strange; I seem to remember trying out every other set of mines, just to see if I had misunderstood the way mines worked. Maybe I should give it another go.

Anyway, the secret thing I never encountered myself, but then again, I've played the game so many times that I rarely die on entering secret areas.

Don't know about Monsaic lines, but I may have to check it out and compare to the OSTs I can find online.

There is one glitch I remember, but I don't know if it's also in the PS version. If you jump into a well at just the right time and have a floating mine hit you, it is possible to blow up the mine without actually dying. I remember doing this once or twice accidentally.

MA 12-16-2016 04:29 AM

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There is one glitch I remember, but I don't know if it's also in the PS version. If you jump into a well at just the right time and have a floating mine hit you, it is possible to blow up the mine without actually dying. I remember doing this once or twice accidentally.

oh yeah i try to get rid of mines doing that if possible. i think there's two areas in Scrabania where it makes shit easier.

LittleLamb 12-16-2016 06:30 AM

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AO could run on a toaster. It's a 1997 game.

You can suck my imaginary cock. I can't even play Exoddus on the toast rack I'm running.

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Concerning storyline, Stranger's Wrath is a separate story from the Abe/Munch one, taking place on the opposite side of the continent and at roughly the same time as Munch's Oddysee (as far as I know). The Oddysee titles were going to be the core story, with spinoffs like Wrath and Exoddus expanding on the world.

How was Exoddus a spinoff? I can understand Stranger but Exoddus literaly followed Oddysee.

Varrok 12-16-2016 06:40 AM

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You can suck my imaginary cock. I can't even play Exoddus on the toast rack I'm running.

I find it hard to believe. I'm serious.

How was Exoddus a spinoff? I can understand Stranger but Exoddus literaly followed Oddysee.[/QUOTE]

Well, the original idea of Oddworld was that it's gonna have 5 main games and a few spin-offs. AE was considered a spin-off.

MA 12-16-2016 07:00 AM

MO was also considered a spinoff. one we tried to spinoff into outer fucking space because we love it so much but alas, it fucking came back.

Guillemot 12-16-2016 07:13 AM

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You can suck my imaginary cock. I can't even play Exoddus on the toast rack I'm running.

What the fuck are you running it on? A stopwatch?

Connell 12-16-2016 07:30 AM

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I have never played Oddysee And I don't want to watch vids or have spoilers on it so no spoilers please! I loved every second of New n tasty though. The environment is so dark and grim.

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wat. You know N'n'T is a remake of Oddysee, right? Which means you literally know the exact story already.

I don't know who that GIF was aimed at, but I hope it was yourself, otherwise I have no idea what your point is.

Varrok 12-16-2016 08:49 AM

It was, and it was humorous.

Nepsotic 12-16-2016 10:04 AM

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How was Exoddus a spinoff? I can understand Stranger but Exoddus literaly followed Oddysee.
It's not a spin-off guys, remember? It's a "bonus game".
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There is one glitch I remember, but I don't know if it's also in the PS version. If you jump into a well at just the right time and have a floating mine hit you, it is possible to blow up the mine without actually dying. I remember doing this once or twice accidentally.
Yep, that's in the PS version alright. Another one I like is taking to a Slig until he (for some reason) forgets his pathing and walks off a cliff or into a bomb.

I remember my first time playing through Oddysee with dad, we used to use those glitches as actual gameplay mechanics because that's what we thought they were. We'd use them to pass puzzles which had way simpler solutions but that for some reason we couldn't figure out.

There was also a secret climbing spot in the PS Scrabanian Temple. I've never met anyone who knows of its existence before except me. I'll get a screenshot and post it.

Manco 12-16-2016 11:08 AM

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I find it hard to believe. I'm serious.

AO and AE are both old enough that they just straight up don’t work on some systems. I think in particular it affects the integrated Intel GPUs you get in laptops.


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What the fuck are you running it on? A stopwatch?

hamster wheel

Vlam 12-16-2016 11:24 AM

On what platform did you play NnT, LittleLamb?

Guillemot 12-16-2016 11:25 AM

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hamster wheel

With the amount of time she spends sacrificing goats, it wouldn't surprise me.

Varrok 12-16-2016 11:40 AM

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You can suck my imaginary cock. I can't even play Exoddus on the toast rack I'm running.

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AO and AE are both old enough that they just straight up don’t work on some systems. I think in particular it affects the integrated Intel GPUs you get in laptops.

@LittleLamb, can you try this fix? It might help you if the game doesn't start at all. Probably won't help you if it runs but lags. Working links on the 4th page

Nepsotic 12-16-2016 12:13 PM

Or he could just buy a fucking PlayStation for like £20 and torrent both the games.