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Manco 05-18-2016 09:40 AM

Looking closely at it he’s not that different. The only big changes I can see are the top of his skull is smaller than it used to be and the wrinkles on his face and neck are much less pronounced, making him look a lot younger.

I don’t mind it, but I also don’t think they needed to change him. I’ll wait until I see him fully textured and in motion before passing judgement.

I do hope they keep his skin coloration and spots though, because right now the untextured model looks really flat.

Paul 05-18-2016 09:50 AM

Hmm on first look I was like "wtf have they done", but on 2nd thought he looks like some run down druggie alien, so for a much more darker/serious themed game it might work quite well.

Still I find it quite strange to change the design of Abe at this point?

Nepsotic 05-18-2016 10:27 AM

Are you sure that's Necrum Mines in his eye? Looks like the Brewery to me.
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Also for those not liking it. Bare in mind that this is a single, uncoloured image from one angle. We've yet to see Abe as a whole. I'm sure once we see the complete picture, he'll look great.

The reason some people don't like it is because of his face shape. Colours aren't going to change that.

FrustratedAssassin 05-18-2016 10:49 AM

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I do hope they keep his skin coloration and spots though, because right now the untextured model looks really flat.

I don't think they'd get rid of those, especially since they're going for dark and gritty.

Crashpunk 05-18-2016 10:59 AM

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The reason some people don't like it is because of his face shape. Colours aren't going to change that.

True. I was more talking about the only angle we have so far. Can't judge an entire design in a single picture.

OddsomeOddy 05-18-2016 11:23 AM

As for this picture I'm not a fan of the redesign. I honestly can't tell what's different but it looks kinda off. Maybe it's the angle, the grey tone or whatever. For now I'm not impressed, but I'm waiting for another full picture before really judging it.

Jordan 05-18-2016 11:45 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll look like in-game when he's fully textured. It'll be interesting to see how different he animates and speaks if they're going for a more gritty game.

Xavier 05-18-2016 12:32 PM

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By the way, in his eye, i can see the exterior of Necrum mines, and a flame coming from something like a train.

Just showed the picture to my girlfriend and she immediately thought it was the Necrum temple reflected in Abe's eyes:

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...35/category/15

I kind of see it too.

JayDee 05-18-2016 01:29 PM

I was thinking that it could have perhaps been Necrum Mines since it explodes and would be the first Mudokon landmark that Abe destroyed.

Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 01:37 PM

Could be indicating a different version of Abe's escape from the Boiler explosion if it is the temple

Vlam 05-18-2016 01:56 PM

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I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll look like in-game when he's fully textured. It'll be interesting to see how different he animates and speaks if they're going for a more gritty game.

You're right: based on experience, Abe could look, in SoulStorm, totally different from this picture.

acedude 05-18-2016 01:56 PM

Plot Twist: The game will be entirely gray-scale. Ha but my biggest downside is I wish his ponytail was a little bit longer. I really enjoy the texture, just a little longer is how I would have done it. One upside is its not New 'n' Tasty's model, which irked at me constantly for some reason. On a side note, are we getting a poster (https://twitter.com/OddworldInc/stat...513976066048)?

Havoc 05-18-2016 02:25 PM

I am... conflicted. This new look is quite a big departure from the Abe we've all come to love over the past 20 years. It will certainly take some getting used to. It might look a lot more natural in color and moving.

This makes me really wonder how much they've changed the other character's appearances though. Redesigned Sligs and Glukkons... oh boy :o

JayDee 05-18-2016 03:24 PM

Hairy Sligs confirmed?

Alf Shall Rise 05-18-2016 03:35 PM

I'm going to be honest, he looks weird as hell. Not that I have a problem with it but goddamn, his eyes really are huge.

Though like what Havoc said, I'm kind of looking forward to see what other species are going to look like. Might end up really cool.

32degrees 05-18-2016 03:45 PM

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I'm going to be honest, he looks weird as hell.

Are you saying he looks a bit....odd :spin:

V_O_T 05-18-2016 06:24 PM

It's weird but growing on me. In a good way too. I mean, now I have to picture this style of Mudokon getting blended, shot, eaten, electrocuted and beaten in a more serious and darker tone setting. With a touch of humor.

And because Abe looks a bit more "human", it kinda gets to me.

Looking forward to seeing what they reveal next. Maybe they'll do an online puzzle separate from the ARG that will unlock images of the other characters/inhabitants.

ODDREN 05-18-2016 10:16 PM

One of the fans from Facebook made colored version:
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...68713298_o.jpg

Phylum 05-18-2016 10:22 PM

The fuck why does Abe have elf ears now

UnderTheSun 05-18-2016 10:47 PM

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The fuck why does Abe have elf ears now

Haven't Mudokon ears always been on the pointy side?

http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/oddworld_o...tart_rjnhp.jpg

Nate 05-18-2016 11:19 PM

My first thought was that he looked a bit too small and meek. I think that's more to do with the facial expression than the model, though. So I think it's fine.

32degrees 05-19-2016 03:54 AM

The new look already grown on me, but let's be honest the in game model now that's the important one now that's what I can't wait to see.

STM 05-19-2016 04:52 AM

I wonder at what point OWI made the decision to change Abe's 'hair' into feathers. In AO it looks like some weird ass wormy thing.

Lock The Mudokon 05-19-2016 05:27 AM

Personally I think Abe looks GREAT! his way more refined and looks like he has a story to tell, he seems more than just a cartoon now, I really like the realistic approach.

It's quite apparent that his mouth and overall jaw area is smaller, I noticed this straight away as in the original games his face is longer but that's not an issue for me, as I feel he looks better then ever.

Gunnr 05-19-2016 07:55 AM

I actually like this style.
Some differences I see are yes the eyes, they are less protrusive and a bit smaller but also appear less cartoony more expressive. His skull looks shorter or maybe at a different angle like pulled back instead of up?
Then his skin also looks thicker and smoother and not so loose like designs before, it makes him look younger- but no issues with me there (one would need thick skin in oddworld ). His stictches look a tad higher, I guess and his nose mound looks more beaklike, however to me that makes since muds are desended from birds.

I also mentioned before that I love what they did with his hair as you can see individual feathers hint again at his birdlike ancestry. The only problem I have is that the ponytail is shorter ( I was actually hoping it'd be long like from old concept art) but the sparse out/spikey look of it is starting to grow on me. (Looks a scrab made off with a piece of it jk) The shortened style seems more practical.

As a whole I think he looks more expressive still sympathetically adorable and still very "Abe". This look actually gives me that alien Exoddus feel I first felt playing the game about a weird alien.

I find it a definate improvement from the NnT design for the gritty atmosphere that Soulstorm is made out to be.

I would really like to see OWI's colored version of this and far more so to see this Abe in action, farts, interactions and all ;)

(But I hope to Odd they tone down the dazzling aura thing during his chant I miss the blue orbs)

Talvy 05-19-2016 09:50 AM

As a hardcore perfectionist myself, I still find it weird how obsessed everyone are about the details.

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One of the fans from Facebook made colored version:
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...68713298_o.jpg

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...36&oe=57DF51EA

Gunnr 05-19-2016 09:55 AM

Yikes, a little too bright but if it where a little more faded then yeah. Can't wait to see OWI's colored in version. You think they'll keep the freckles?

STM 05-19-2016 10:17 AM

I think they'll need to change the colour of his eyes to better contrast his skin tone but other than that it looks great!

Holy Sock 05-19-2016 02:48 PM

It's obviously a bit jarring but I was expecting to dislike the new look based on the sneak peek. But it's an interesting new look.

Nate 05-19-2016 09:54 PM

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I wonder at what point OWI made the decision to change Abe's 'hair' into feathers. In AO it looks like some weird ass wormy thing.

They always were feathers. They just weren't able to render them well.