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Job McYossie 01-22-2014 09:22 PM

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so if that makes me a thief then hell, i'm a thief.

For the sake of hilarity, go download the old Thief computer game.

MA 01-22-2014 09:31 PM

i played it. for the record i fucking bought it.

and yeah MM stop talking shit.

Job McYossie 01-22-2014 09:39 PM

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i played it. for the record i fucking bought it.

and yeah MM stop talking shit.

I wan't saying anything about playing it. Just downloading it. Though it was a good game too.

MA 01-22-2014 09:41 PM

oh shit, your joke went straight over my head. i thought you were referring to something in the game. yeah, ha.

OANST 01-23-2014 06:51 AM

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to be completely frank (no my name is not Frank), it isn't really a 'scummy' thing to do, or at least not to my definition. taking from an orphanage's fix-the-roof charity fund is scummy. punching a crippled world war veteran in the face is scummy. my poorly-made point is that there are much worse crimes committed digitally. doesn't excuse piracy from being a crime, but it definitely does make it one of the very 'lesser' crimes. it's fucking digital pirating at the end of the day, online bullshit, absolutely anyone can do it, anywhere, anytime, and very quickly and easily at that. all you need is some form of internet connection.

yet again, that isn't meant as an excuse, it's meant as an indicator to how small a problem (or big, depending on your outlook) it is when looking at the big picture. it's very common, and to be honest, at this stage, no one with any power over that area really gives a shit about it right now. they're off chasing possible terrorist organisations and threats to government. copyright and piracy kind of take a back seat, and go to lesser powers to deal with.

some people who admit to doing this shit are hypocrites because they will either say "i don't pirate, apart from blah blah blah or that one time etc" or "i pirate but it's not stealing lol" or "i pirate but also spend all my money on their fucking merch" or some other variation. not all of those people, but some. what i say is "i pirate shit, because i don't give a fucking shit. i am poor. does that excuse my conduct? no it does not, i never said it did. all i ever said is i don't give a fucking shit, so leave me alone."

so if that makes me a thief then hell, i'm a thief. fucking sue me (lolololol b careful wat u wish 4). on a completely unrelated note if anyone wishes to browse my wares they need only ask, i'd be happy to oblige and be a middle man for all your piracy and swashbuckling needs ARRRRRRRR ME HEARTIES

so what i'm saying here is it's bad and breaking the law and fuck em. fuck em hard.

it might not last forever, so exploit the situation, kids! that is my filthy opinion. you can fuck it hard.

At least you're honest about it. It's not as if I don't occasionally do something unethical. The only thing about these situations that pisses me off is when the person stealing it refuses to accept that what they are doing is even mildly unethical, and starts giving bullshit reasons why they shouldn't have to pay. It just irritates me to watch people lie to themselves.

STM 01-23-2014 07:18 AM

You know what I really fucking want to get my hands on, Evolution: The Game of Intelligent Life. I played the demo of that game and I've been looking to try and pirate it ever since but I can't find a site that even bloody sells it anywhere! The reason why I don't pirate anything any more is because I'm too thick to work out how to.

MeechMunchie 01-23-2014 10:10 AM

Not as much fun as Conway's Game of Life!

MA 01-23-2014 11:06 AM

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At least you're honest about it. It's not as if I don't occasionally do something unethical. The only thing about these situations that pisses me off is when the person stealing it refuses to accept that what they are doing is even mildly unethical, and starts giving bullshit reasons why they shouldn't have to pay. It just irritates me to watch people lie to themselves.

yeah exactly. if they want to go ahead and do it i have no qualms or cares, but they shouldn't delude themselves into dressing a dog turd up as a vintage German sausage. it is what it is. it is stealing. ho fucking hum the world keeps on spinning.

STM 01-23-2014 11:54 AM

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Not as much fun as Conway's Game of Life!

If I remember correctly I found that by mistake looking for TGoIL...or vice-versa, I can't remember now.

Wings of Fire 01-23-2014 12:01 PM

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yeah exactly. if they want to go ahead and do it i have no qualms or cares, but they shouldn't delude themselves into dressing a dog turd up as a vintage German sausage. it is what it is. it is stealing. ho fucking hum the world keeps on spinning.

Tangentially related to that: There's an anime series airing this season (Space Dandy) which airs on Toonami dubbed before it airs in Japan. Leaks of the dub have been posted on the main torrent site I use which have garnered some very... strange comments.

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Illegal leak. Why is this allowed? The real episode hasn't even aired in the first place and this should be illegal under any means.

I wonder what the actual companies think about this when they find out. Please don't let Nyaa become a bad reputation for leaking episodes before they air.
This is my favourite.

Job McYossie 01-23-2014 12:34 PM

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Not as much fun as Conway's Game of Life!

It was fun for a while, but the mechanics are so simple it's difficult to really play around with very much. I really love the idea of seeing a little thing like that move without outside help. I used to be obsessed with this kind of stuff, until I gave up after a month or two of constant searching for something complex.

STM 01-23-2014 01:44 PM

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Tangentially related to that: There's an anime series airing this season (Space Dandy) which airs on Toonami dubbed before it airs in Japan. Leaks of the dub have been posted on the main torrent site I use which have garnered some very... strange comments.

I saw the first ten minutes of the un-dubbed, un-subbed, first episode of that. I had no idea what I was watching but I appreciated all the boobs. I thought though, that Toonami was a kids channel? Seemed that Space Dandy would be reallllllly unsuited to a kids channel.

MeechMunchie 01-23-2014 02:34 PM

JAPAN!

I don't think accepting something is unethical and believing it to be socially acceptable are mutually exclusive, though. I don't think I'm deluded for thinking I'm less of a douchebag than someone doing the same thing in a different context.

OANST 01-24-2014 05:43 AM

Are there layers to it? Sure. You could be doing much worse things, yes. At the end of the day, you are taking something you should be paying for simply because you want to. Which isn't the coolest thing you could do.

I think this should be something that people who do it don't really talk about. I don't really care that much about it. I will not crusade against it. But holy fuck do I hate watching people defend it.

Nepsotic 01-24-2014 06:54 AM

I'm not defending it. I know it's wrong, but there are defintely circumstances where it is less wrong than it is other times.

OANST 01-24-2014 07:47 AM

Why even bother saying that though? Less wrong? What does that mean? I just want the people that do it to shut up about it. I don't care what you do. Just the fact that they talk about it proves that they feel like they need to explain their actions, which should be proof enough that they really shouldn't be doing it. Keep it private. Don't make excuses.

MeechMunchie 01-24-2014 08:02 AM

Well, this is a thread that requested opinions on the topic. It's not like I burst into offices singing about how much of a cheapskate I am.

MA 01-24-2014 08:46 AM

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Tangentially related to that: There's an anime series airing this season (Space Dandy) which airs on Toonami dubbed before it airs in Japan. Leaks of the dub have been posted on the main torrent site I use which have garnered some very... strange comments.

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Illegal leak. Why is this allowed? The real episode hasn't even aired in the first place and this should be illegal under any means.

I wonder what the actual companies think about this when they find out. Please don't let Nyaa become a bad reputation for leaking episodes before they air.
This is my favourite.

i don't think that guy quite gets the concept of a 'leak'. well they do, just in the form of a misguided epiphany. double standards. or just ignorance/idiocy.

STM 01-24-2014 09:13 AM

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Why even bother saying that though? Less wrong? What does that mean? I just want the people that do it to shut up about it. I don't care what you do. Just the fact that they talk about it proves that they feel like they need to explain their actions, which should be proof enough that they really shouldn't be doing it. Keep it private. Don't make excuses.

Hey OANST I used to pirate stuff and I think it was justifiable.

How's your blood pressure these days by the way?

MA 01-24-2014 09:17 AM

i pirated his mother. in 720p too.

Varrok 01-24-2014 09:46 AM

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i pirated his mother. in 720p too.

Was it his mother in high D or rather a high D in his mother?

MA 01-24-2014 09:49 AM

i agree.

OANST 01-24-2014 11:35 AM

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Well, this is a thread that requested opinions on the topic. It's not like I burst into offices singing about how much of a cheapskate I am.

I did consider that. I didn't come up with an answer to whether that changes if I find it annoying. It might. I'll have to get back to you on it.

Varrok 01-24-2014 11:57 AM

I request a topic that requests opinions about OANST being old and fat. It would be okay that way

Crashpunk 01-28-2014 03:07 AM

"Thread Just To Antagonise OANST"