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JayDee 01-17-2013 01:00 PM

Munch's Exoddus.

Or, Abe's Adventure to Save His Sodding Mother and Get Some Freudian Closure - Co-Starring Munch.

Though to be honest, I'd much prefer a new Oddysee to watching Munch jizz in a tin can at Ma' Spa.

Scrabaniac 01-17-2013 02:24 PM

Aand now i have that image burned in my mind.. Fab! Haha

Nate 01-17-2013 10:30 PM

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Everyone should vote for Squeek's Oddysee or "Something Completely New". I'm sick of Munch, I'd rather see something completely different than more of the same.

You're sick of Munch because MO was not a great game. But if JAW could make ME everything that MO was meant to be, and also good, that'd be worth it.

But I have my doubts that it's possible to make a game the size and complexity of MO/E without a team of 100+ people in this current game landscape.

Phylum 01-17-2013 10:54 PM

That's what I think. If nothing else a small team couldn't capture the striking visuals required for the Next Big Thing from Oddworld.

I really think we need something new from Oddworld before people get sick of the idea of HDing older titles. I voted Sligstorm, but AEHD might well be feasible if N'n'T sells enough.

Slog Bait 01-17-2013 11:24 PM

I think you guys need to have a little more faith and realize that it's entirely possible no matter how big the team. The quality of the final game is entirely dependent on the effort put into the project, not how many.

Less people just means it might take longer to make, is all.

Phylum 01-17-2013 11:47 PM

I agree with that for gameplay and even music, but simply having more people makes higher quality graphics much more feasible.

Clannfear 01-17-2013 11:53 PM

Yeah, thats true indeed. Man, I really hope that Fangus will win and we all will have pleasure to play something like "Dark N' Edgy". Then, Owi can make Abe's Exoddus HD for example. Fangus as break game could be nice touch for the series.

Sekto Springs 01-18-2013 12:19 AM

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You're sick of Munch because MO was not a great game. But if JAW could make ME everything that MO was meant to be, and also good, that'd be worth it.

But I have my doubts that it's possible to make a game the size and complexity of MO/E without a team of 100+ people in this current game landscape.

I get what you're saying, but I'd still rather see something totally new than for JAW to burn the money, time, and potential on a band-aid game that follows a character we've already seen before.

Even though we didn't necessarily see it through to the end, I feel like Munch's quest is already done. He's got the Gabbiar. Sure, you could maybe squeeze another adventure out of finding a can opener/taking the eggs to Ma'Spa, but eh...

I would like to see the whole subplot involving Maggie and Molluck that was scrapped, but since Gorman Disenza and Maggie's grandmother were going to be keystone plot points in Squeek's Oddysee, perhaps it could be added to that story instead?

Sanssouci 01-18-2013 04:02 AM

it's so disappointing that the most popular option right now is just another remake of a 15 year old game rather than something interesting that advances the story or expands the setting or does anything of note

STM 01-18-2013 04:13 AM

Aye but it doesn't mean they'll go with it. Though AE might be quicker to make then you'd think considering they have a lot of the assets and the engine required from AOHD.

Vyrien 01-18-2013 04:57 AM

I don't really mind what they make, as long as they make something.

STM 01-18-2013 05:04 AM

What about an Abe statue crafted from faecal matter?

OANST 01-18-2013 05:29 AM

I give a big thumbs up to that.

Dynamithix 01-18-2013 05:41 AM

I was about to choose Stranger's Wrath 2 because I still want to know what happens after the ending (fucking Sekto got away) but in the end I went for Squeek's Oddysee. I want to see the damn quintology finished!

Slog Bait 01-18-2013 05:43 AM

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Yeah, thats true indeed. Man, I really hope that Fangus will win and we all will have pleasure to play something like "Dark N' Edgy". Then, Owi can make Abe's Exoddus HD for example. Fangus as break game could be nice touch for the series.

I'm pretty sure if anything is picked that's not AE HD the next game they make has the potential to be Dark N' Edgy. It all depends on how they go about it.

I ended up picking Sligstorm because I've always liked the idea for its storyline. It has the potential to be something amazing and unlike ME, SO, or AE HD, you won't have to play any previous installments to understand everything that might happen in game. It'll probably end up being like SW (in terms of an offshoot storyline) except set in a more familiar (or as close to familiar as you can fucking get in these games) part of the world.

It can give us a chance to explore more of the industrial side of Oddworld in a way AO, AE, and MO couldn't. With each new game we're pretty much guaranteed new content. With Sligstorm I also feel like it will catch more peoples' attention. You can have the dark and edgy and it work for the story that's being told, and considering the plot? Yeah, I can't see it being advertised as anything but dark and edgy.

And I'm pretty sure it would end up having a lot of elements that stood out in the first few games that gave Oddworld it's charm. If they chose to go 2.5D I see it playing similar to however New 'N' Tasty will, but if they go the full 3D route I can see it alternating between 3rd and 1st person like in SW but I don't think there will be nearly as much platforming unless they introduce a way for sligs to jump or the main character learns to climb. Plenty of sneaking around regardless. Don't want to get culled.

Also sligs are really cool and fun to play as and I'm totally biased because of it

Havoc 01-18-2013 05:45 AM

It'd be interesting to see just about anything that isn't a remake, really. Especially because Lorne is still on board and it isn't just some random company picking up the franchise.

I can live with an Exoddus remake, but only if it expands the story and tests certain technologies (say, completely remake the cutscenes as an experience foundation for new games).

pupbenny 01-18-2013 06:30 AM

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Fangus, straight up. I want to see new things.

Even before we've seen new old things though? That's what fans have been waiting a decade for.

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it's something new and (what is most important) it really makes Oddworld SCARY and DARK again

Not really.... fans want what they want. When people say "Oddworld" they think Abe, ect. Oddworld is the Oddworld games, not some game that doesn't even have 'Oddworld' in the title. Let's be fair, Stranger's Wrath was new and that practically killed off the Oddworld series for a decade. I'm not saying Stranger's Wrath was the cause of Oddworld being killed off. But after the unsuccess of Munch's Oddysee they shouldn't have made a 'new' game, they should've recovered by making another Abe Oddworld game.

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I voted for Fangus, because I would like something new to get me interested in the universe again.

Fuck all of you voting for Abe or Munch sequels, seriously.

You're the one who needs to fuck off. Go start another forum called the 'Fangus Klott Forum' (that has a nice ring to it) Oddworld needs Abe and/or Munch sequels. That's what the fans have been waiting for for years. Not some stupid game that's hardly and Oddworld game. Fangus Klott isn't Oddworld, I think you need to accept that. If you're not already interested in the universe of Oddworld why are you here? If you want to play some 'dark and realistic game' or whatever it is then go play Call Of Duty.

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Well nothing involving Munch since Munch is a shitty game and Munch is a shitty character.

I agree with other people that Munch should be given another chance. Sure, MO wasn't the best game. But that deosn't mean Munch isn't a good character, we've barely seen him, and the reason people think Munch is a bad character is because of his first game.

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I think you guys need to have a little more faith and realize that it's entirely possible no matter how big the team. The quality of the final game is entirely dependent on the effort put into the project, not how many.

Agreed.

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it's so disappointing that the most popular option right now is just another remake of a 15 year old game rather than something interesting that advances the story or expands the setting or does anything of note

So are you dissapointed that they've made SW HD, MO HD and are making Abe NNT?

Slog Bait 01-18-2013 06:35 AM

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Even before we've seen new old things though? That's what fans have been waiting a decade for.

The fans have been waiting a decade for a new installment to the series, not remakes of the old things.

They didn't want to start seeing the old things UNTIL HD remakes started happening. If OWI and JAW want to move Oddworld forward, they need to take the time to start making something new rather than focusing entirely on remakes. Luckily, the only thing left to remake after AO is AE, so even if they go with the popular vote and just make AE HD next, we know they're going to start working on something new immediately afterwards.

I, personally, can wait on AE HD because I want something new.

Nostalgia is nice and all, but there is a point where it gets to be too much.

STM 01-18-2013 06:46 AM

We can sum up Pupbuddy's post as follows:

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MY OPINION IS THE BEST YOU'RE ALL DUMB NOT ME I WANT OLD THINGS YOU GUYS DUMB ME SMART STUPID PEOPLE.

Jordan 01-18-2013 07:06 AM

God, Abe fanboys piss me off. If the Oddworld universe was limited to Abe, and all new games featured Abe I would become very bored. He's a great character, sure, but he isn't what makes Oddworld.

Vyrien 01-18-2013 07:34 AM

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We can sum up Pupbuddy's post as follows:

I get more the impression of:

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Ung..abe...eh..uh..said.....oh....uh...words...mmm...has...yes...fuck GOD FUCK GOD GOD FUCKING YES...mmm. has....munch.....yes....ung....abe....


Slog Bait 01-18-2013 07:37 AM

Now you guys are just being gross.

pupbenny 01-18-2013 07:40 AM

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The fans have been waiting a decade for a new installment to the series, not remakes of the old things.

They didn't want to start seeing the old things UNTIL HD remakes started happening. If OWI and JAW want to move Oddworld forward, they need to take the time to start making something new rather than focusing entirely on remakes. Luckily, the only thing left to remake after AO is AE, so even if they go with the popular vote and just make AE HD next, we know they're going to start working on something new immediately afterwards.

I, personally, can wait on AE HD because I want something new.

Nostalgia is nice and all, but there is a point where it gets to be too much.

That's what I'm saying. I want installments to the series. I don't want some Fangus Klott game, that's not part of the series. Read what I'm saying and responding to before making a comment like that.

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We can sum up Pupbuddy's post as follows: MY OPINION IS THE BEST YOU'RE ALL DUMB NOT ME I WANT OLD THINGS YOU GUYS DUMB ME SMART STUPID PEOPLE.

Not really.... Read what I am saying and responding to before trying to be a funny man. I don't think my opinion is the best, unlike most people on the Oddworld Forums, I just want to continue with the proper Oddworld games, the Quintology, ect. Not waste time with this Fangus Klott.

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God, Abe fanboys piss me off. If the Oddworld universe was limited to Abe, and all new games featured Abe I would become very bored. He's a great character, sure, but he isn't what makes Oddworld.

I'm not an "Abe fanboy" as you so put it. In fact I seem to be one of the only ones here who like mUnch, so don't tell me that Oddworld is limited to Abe. I just want to progress with the Quintology not waste even more time making some Fangus Klott thing, that has hardly anything to do with Oddworld.

Read what I am saying and responding to before making a comment please.

pupbenny 01-18-2013 07:42 AM

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I get more the impression of:

Uh huh. :P

P.S. Sorry for double posting, I was going to edit my previous post and paste this in but I forgot and pressed 'Send.'

To keep this on an Oddworld topic, what next?

Munch's Exxodus, Hand Of Odd, SligStorm or Squeeks Oddysee?

Out of those what would people decide?

Slog Bait 01-18-2013 07:45 AM

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That's what I'm saying. I want installments to the series. I don't want some Fangus Klott game, that's not part of the series. Read what I'm saying and responding to before making a comment like that.

I did read your post??

It's very vague and what I got out of it was "WANT MORE HD REMAKES".

pupbenny 01-18-2013 07:48 AM

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I did read your post??

It's very vague and what I got out of it was "WANT MORE HD REMAKES".

No, that'd be stupid, there's only one more game to make a HD remake. :P

I'm saying I don't want to waste time on Fangus Klott and want to get straight on with the Quintology, ect.

EDIT: I see where you got that impression now. When I said "new old things". What I meant by that was because Fangus Klott would be considered "new" so Abe, Munch would be considered "old" so I meant I wanted "new old things" as in new things of Abe and the Quintology, ect.

Nepsotic 01-18-2013 07:51 AM

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Well nothing involving Munch since Munch is a shitty game and Munch is a shitty character.

I was pretty enthusiastic about the idea of sligstorm when I was younger.

Both of your points are correct. I'd like Exoddus HD, however.

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That's what I'm saying. I want installments to the series. I don't want some Fangus Klott game, that's not part of the series. Read what I'm saying and responding to before making a comment like that.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Like, really?
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Not really.... fans want what they want. When people say "Oddworld" they think Abe, ect. Oddworld is the Oddworld games, not some game that doesn't even have 'Oddworld' in the title. Let's be fair, Stranger's Wrath was new and that practically killed off the Oddworld series for a decade. I'm not saying Stranger's Wrath was the cause of Oddworld being killed off. But after the unsuccess of Munch's Oddysee they shouldn't have made a 'new' game, they should've recovered by making another Abe Oddworld game.
I'm sure you're an expert on Oddworld's financial crisis.
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I agree with other people that Munch should be given another chance. Sure, MO wasn't the best game. But that deosn't mean Munch isn't a good character, we've barely seen him, and the reason people think Munch is a bad character is because of his first game.
He was hardly a character, he was basically just a copy/paste of Abe, but ten times as annoying.

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it's so disappointing that the most popular option right now is just another remake of a 15 year old game rather than something interesting that advances the story or expands the setting or does anything of note
Like STM said, they'll already have most of the assets required. Plus, I think redoing the first few games is a great way to get the series back up in it's feet.

Clannfear 01-18-2013 09:31 AM

Okay man, everyone have its own opinion but honestly - blaming Fangus Klot and calling it "some game" is uber-ignorance.
Look at Stranger's Wrath. Seriously? THAT game made Oddworld Series back on good path. What Im saying is that completely new titles - spinoffs are sometimes key to make series better. Fangus could be the same in terms of making Oddworld a little bit more mature after too much humour. Oddworld is (as we know) mega-big as planet. If games in that universe are sometimes funny and more humoristic - series should have also more dark-mature titles to be enjoyable for more people. And, what is most important - Oddworld have that possibilities.

STM 01-18-2013 09:43 AM

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Uh huh. :P

P.S. Sorry for double posting, I was going to edit my previous post and paste this in but I forgot and pressed 'Send.'

To keep this on an Oddworld topic, what next?

Munch's Exxodus, Hand Of Odd, SligStorm or Squeeks Oddysee?

Out of those what would people decide?

I can't vote because Fangus isn't up there.

Slog Bait 01-18-2013 09:51 AM

The more I think about it, the more I realize I'm way more interested in spinoffs than I am in the quintology. The Abe games were good but I don't really care for knowing much about it after MO? SO or ME might change my mind, but that's to be seen.