I'm with BM. The average young, Western person, male or female, doesn't really worry about these things. Not actively trying to move women up in the world, but not resisting it either. If there's no-one deliberately trying to keep women "in their place", then over time things will become neutral. Misogyny will just become an immaterial myth held only by inbred morons and the extremely backward. See: Racism. We're not there yet, but we're getting there.

"Feminism" as an organised political movement is only really necessary in countries where there's an organised misogynist political movement to counter. So in the Arab world, there's certainly a need for rousing, vocal, feminists. Here, you'll just look like you're making a disproportionate amount of fuss over the issue concerned.

I disagree, there is still a need for it here. Women's issues are just a lot more invisible here, which is part of the problem.

Listen, bitches.

Listen.

OANST has offended me horribly because "bitches" is a very offensive misogynistic term.

In seriousness though, some people who fly the flag of feminism, just like some people who fly the flag of anti-racism, don't actually know what the banner they're forming under means. (I'm looking at you, people who think religions are races.)

I prefer to keep things more clear and say I'm in support of equality. We don't seem to have confused that one yet. At least, not that I've heard of.

And on a vaguely related note, I've seen a "masculist" movement being spoken about before - which suffers the exact same problems of modern-day feminism. "No, no, we're nothing like that misandric evil feminism," they say. Hahah.

I have a friend who refers to herself as a “humanist” and does this because she thinks feminists are wrong.

It’s infuriating because she made a Youtube video about her opinions on feminism and they are all so ill-informed.

humanist or Humanist?

That's not me being sarky by the way, I'm genuinely interested.

I don’t goddamn know, I haven’t seen her write it down.

Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me.

I want to see this YouTube video.

Also that's another word gone. I don't think humanist means what she thinks it means. At least, Google has suggested several alternatives that have confused the matter and would require me to research further.

That's because they're dumb women amirite?

Dumb women? It's like saying 'buttery butter'
Anybody top this, plz

Wet water.

Offtopic OWF members.

I don't know how gender equality is going over where all you guys are at but let me tell you, moving from a pretty liberal state to a really fucking conservative state in the U.S. a year or so ago has definitely convinced me that feminism is still completely necessary in the western world. Or, at least, the States. What else is new, though?

It kind of sickens me to actually see this level of sexism first hand. I can't even listen to the god damn radio or watch the news for an hour or so without hearing at least one thing that implies women are inferior in some way or another.

I just hate the "make me a sandwich" or "you belong to the kitchen" jokes... They are tiring. More than anything I hate when other girls defend these jokes just to seem like the cool one-of-the-guys type of girl. To me these jokes translate to nothing else than: You are worth nothing, girl. It irks me. x__x

I'm indifferent to them, the people who use them generally have no wit at all so it's interesting watching them make themselves look backwards and unoriginal in order to appear funny.

I reserve the right to say those things ironically.

I reserve the right to say your mom ironically.

I shudder to think of the kind of person who says it without irony.

Don't you see if I make those jokes, I can show to everyone how manly I am? If I make those jokes, all them girls will like mah virility and lay down on my feet for more of that. Or so a significant percentage of men think.

Redditors?

I don't like explaining the joke, but I didn't use inverted commas.

shudder

I know it's already been said but this kinda' sums it up.
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...97139268_n.jpg

I hope you don’t sincerely believe that’s what feminism is about.

“Ohmigosh those wimmenfolk want to rule the world!”

Makes all us would-be female dictators look bad.
Fuck your equality, fuck your feminism, I and I alone wish for special snowflake treatment.

I really hope that image is a joke though. I really do. Not even just your posting of it, but the idea that the person holding that sign believes that.

We don't actually know the context.

By the hipster glasses, I'd say she's saying it ironically.

Is that a CCTV camera on the back of her door?

Looks like some kind of prize ribbon to me.