I just love the way you say that as if it were a solid fact accepted by everybody. :p

I'm more, as Sekto Springs, of the "vaishing into thin air" school of thought.

Do you hope that the controlling forces of Earth's capitalist establishment are overthrown by some native hilltribe?

If Big Face was Abe from the future, and Abe was killed, then what force would be acting on his atoms to make them disappear?

Time, Wil.

Time.

Oh man you asked for it...

It doesn't have to make sense, it's oddworld after all. Duh...


There you go.

That was my impression when I first played AO. I suspect this is one of those things where the canon has developed and changed over time.

It doesn't necessarily have to. Newton's laws apply in simple physics. There are other types of physics that are not ruled by such common laws. I'm not a scientist, but neither are you :P.

BigFace isn't Abe from the future though, it's a farfetched and pointless storyline. Maybe it's that he's taking a vow of silence, but instead of just being silent, in mudokon culture it's normal for such body modifications/mutilations and he actually stitched his lips in some kind of religious ritual

Also: it's a fucking game.

Defeats the objective of culturalism if the native steal industrial practice. It's hardly swadesh is it?

What industrial practice?

even though its impossible:
1. He wouldn't dissappear, he would have never have existed beyond the point where abd is chucked in the meat grinder,(I watch a lot of Doctor Who)
2. It wouldn't happen anyway because it didn't.

3. Like AvengingGibbons said, it wont be abe from the future because its just downright stupid, why would BigFace kill his past self? No, this isn't Misfits.

There has also been a lot of discussion about how the paw/handprint on the moon came to be, but I wont go into that now .

Stitching people's lips shut.

Oh.. I thought Abe's mum did that.. Sam? So he wouldnt disturb the farm animals by crying? I can't remember..

Ive heard that too, but if it is, how come all the mudokon signs in ao and ae have stitched lips?

The accepted canon is that the hand on the moon appeared long ago, and was ultimately what caused the antagonism between the Mudokons and Glukkons.

Lorne's original idea was that a meteor shower forming the print occurred right before Abe escaped RuptureFarms, but he decided it was far too "deus ex machina" and worked it into their backstory.

That seems right, but what about munchs moon?

We mostly pretend it's not there...

well im a science type of a guy :P XD

I do that with the entire game

Hey, he said something genuinely funny!

Let's get him a present.

Thank you, i'm glad to know you guys share my views about MO

I think the ending depends on which quarma you complete it with. But I'm hoping the perfect ending will cannon.

Actually, the Dark Quarma ending is canon. Everything after Abe's Oddysee is just Raisin dreaming. Including the existence of Raisin.

Are you sure you're currently not the one inside of your dream? I mean, if you exist...

...wait, who am I talking to... Wil? Who's Wil?

Anyway, back to the topic yes, of course the perfect endings are canon, theres no debate there.

No. All of the bad endings are canon. Abe dies three times over the course of the series.

Wil said AOs bad ending was canon. Who are you to argue with him? He works at JAW.

EDIT: Dammit, MM.

So abe only saved about 50 muds? Even though he said he saved 99 in ae, and all the muds in ae are suddenly cheering for himeven when he killed 50, and it carrieson from the ao good ending? So much evidence, have you considered that Wil may have been joking? Or are you messing with me?

nods oddysee fall 2015

Well so it goes for nods oddysee.