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MeechMunchie 11-17-2011 12:17 AM

What are you, his wife?

Havoc 11-17-2011 03:56 AM

No, thank god.

MA 11-17-2011 05:47 AM

his husband?

Havoc 11-17-2011 07:51 AM

No, thank god.

Crashpunk 11-17-2011 08:20 AM

His God?

STM 11-17-2011 08:23 AM

No, thank God.

Crashpunk 11-17-2011 08:26 AM

Frosties.

Sekto Springs 11-17-2011 02:18 PM

So apparently the bill is creating quite a stir. It hasn't passed yet to my most recent knowledge, and several members have called it out on it's bullshit.

Read more here.

mr.odd 11-17-2011 03:41 PM

What is with congress in trying to control the internet? Don't they have better things to do like trying to fix the economy? You know, something that matters.

How many of these Internet censorship bills have actually passed? I swear this is like the fourth or fifth one they proposed.

JennyGenesis 11-17-2011 05:31 PM

Check this out.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...review-digimon

Wings of Fire 11-17-2011 05:33 PM

I'm, uh, pretty sure this is the wrong thread.

Also I wouldn't watch a Nostalgia Critic video if you paid me.

Sekto Springs 11-17-2011 05:35 PM

The SOPA Bill is starting to gain approval.

*worried*

JennyGenesis 11-17-2011 05:38 PM

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I'm, uh, pretty sure this is the wrong thread.

Also I wouldn't watch a Nostalgia Critic video if you paid me.

Try watching the video first, it is related to this thread.

Sekto Springs 11-17-2011 08:56 PM

I'm with WoF on the topic of Nostalgia Critic. He is fucking annoying.

Manco 11-17-2011 11:57 PM

I dunno, if this bill forces Nostalgia Critic off the net it can’t be all bad...

MeechMunchie 11-18-2011 12:10 AM

Okay, I am worried now.

Sekto Springs 11-18-2011 07:49 PM

For anyone who still has faith in Congress, I just wanted to mention that besides the SOPA issue, they've been discussing various bills regarding nutrition. They have officially declared pizza a vegetable because of it's tomato sauce. Nevermind that tomatoes are a fruit, and that it only constitutes about 30% of a pizza.

Stay classy.

moxco 11-19-2011 01:27 AM

IF I were to buy a vegetarian pizza I would feel assured I was getting a serve of vegetables.

Although I doubt that is the case. I suppose this is so the USA can justify its notorious school lunches. Is it actually as bad as Jamie Oliver/Morgan Spurlock make out?

Dipstikk 11-19-2011 02:35 AM

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Therein lies your apathy. "Its not my country, idgaf"
Also, as WoF pointed out, one vote won't make much difference, but that's kind of the point of posting it here... to ensure that multiple people are on board.

Every little bit helps, and this kind of is a big deal.

I love how the internet being in jeopardy is what causes Chris to sound like me on almost everything political.

FIGHT THE POWER CHRIS




no conscience i don't want to tell him i am just kidding go help pinocchio or something damn

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What is with congress in trying to control the internet? Don't they have better things to do like trying to fix the economy? You know, something that matters.

How many of these Internet censorship bills have actually passed? I swear this is like the fourth or fifth one they proposed.

Why does Congress want to control abortion rights? Why does Congress want to give tax breaks to billionaires? Why does Congress want to destroy unions? Dismantle the health care bill? Take away social security and medicare? Block everything the president proposes?

Answer: Right wing majority in congress.

That tells me all I need to know.

They probably want to use it as a propaganda tool, and then defend themselves from criticism by calling it "free speech," while simultaneously blocking anything they deem to be "too liberal."

Sekto Springs 11-19-2011 07:36 AM

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I love how the internet being in jeopardy is what causes Chris to sound like me on almost everything political.
As I've said, I can get behind certain causes if they're actually worth my time and the outcome will have a significant effect on me.

Update:
Congress is split down the middle on this bill, but lawmaker opposition is starting to come into the equation. Read more here.

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While the representatives agree with the spirit of the bill, they said “SOPA as written, however, is overly broad and would cause serious and long term damage to the technology industry, one of the few bright spots in our economy.”

Havoc 11-21-2011 04:17 PM

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What is with congress in trying to control the internet? Don't they have better things to do like trying to fix the economy? You know, something that matters.

How many of these Internet censorship bills have actually passed? I swear this is like the fourth or fifth one they proposed.

The internet is pretty much the last thing governments have no control over. Mass piracy and the organizing of various riots this summer proves that. Most important, the internet is the number 1 place where people can show wrongdoings by said government on a mass scale. Think police brutality or political scandals. Because of the internet, such events go around the country in less than a day. That is too strong a medium not to have at least some influence on. But for the last 20 years hardly any law has been created to directly apply to the internet.

I'm hoping it's to late to pass any kind of law now, but unfortunately not even all of the internet can fight against a few million dollars in bribes. This is going to happen one day. Just a matter of deciding if we let it go down without a fight.

Sekto Springs 11-21-2011 07:38 PM

Oh, yum.

moxco 11-22-2011 04:07 AM

That's a perfectly sound proposition. If you have signed an website's terms and conditions you are legally obliged to abide by them. That article is just being sensationalist and giving obscure and unrealistic examples, where the government obviously wouldn't give a shit.

Jordan 11-22-2011 04:17 AM

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That's a perfectly sound proposition. If you have signed an website's terms and conditions you are legally obliged to abide by them. That article is just being sensationalist and giving obscure and unrealistic examples, where the government obviously wouldn't give a shit.

My thoughts exactly. Under certain circumstances the lying thing makes sense, but lying about your weight on a dating site? That's fucking stupid. I'm pretty sure a lot of people do it. It should only apply to sites where telling lies can have a highly negative effect and it is genuinely wrong in the eyes of the law.

Havoc 11-22-2011 04:20 AM

It says online provider. If they mean your internet provider and THEIR TOS then yes, it's a bullshit proposition. It's easier to put pressure on a few dozen companies to change their TOS instead of having to deal with every single website out there.

In the case of websites I don't see how they would ever enforce that. Seriously who reads TOS on random internet websites anyway unless you're placing some big order.

Wings of Fire 11-22-2011 04:31 AM

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If you have signed an website's terms and conditions you are legally obliged to abide by them

uh... legally?

Does that mean if change my signature to an unreasonable size here I am doing something illegal?

I know that example falls under our rules rather than our Terms and Conditions, but still.

Sekto Springs 11-24-2011 11:19 AM

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As Web firms recently pressed Congress to free them from liability for pirated content on their sites, they turned to a natural lobbying technique: starting a viral campaign.

First came the catchy slogan: "Don't Break the Internet." Then came pleas for support on message boards, Twitter and online forums. The result: a million people e-mailing Congress and 87,000 calls, according to figures posted on the American Censorship Day Web site.

The campaign illustrated the quick ability of Silicon Valley to generate a massive grassroots movement to serve its interests. In this case, some of the biggest companies in technology, including Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Intel, as well as thousands of other Web companies, want to soften a bill in Congress that could empower law enforcement to shut down their sites if they host pirated content.

Supporters of the measure, the Stop Online Piracy Act, which include Hollywood, the music industry and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, also tried to use the Web to their advantage. They tweeted and took to social-media channels, arguing that the legislation would curb the illegal trade of copyrighted movies, software and music. But their efforts hardly made a ripple in the virtual world.

Meanwhile, firms such as Tumblr, Reddit and Mozilla simply posted their concerns on their sites and were able to rally tens of thousands of ordinary users — if not many more — to their side. Along with consumer advocates, these companies are taking part in American Censorship Day, a splashy campaign encouraging consumers to call Congress and express their opposition to the bill.

The viral movement has not been well-received by Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), one of the primary backers of the measure. Smith said he's open to discussing legitimate concerns in the bill, but objects to the way critics have framed the issue.

"Claims that this bill will 'break' the Internet are unfounded. When one-quarter of Internet traffic is infringing, something is already in need of repair," he said, adding that "over-the-top rhetoric intended to excite opposition" is clouding the underlying problem of online piracy.

The bill, which has 25 co-sponsors from both parties, is expected to move to floor debate Dec. 15, according to a Judiciary Committee staffer. A similar Senate bill is expected to go to vote later in the year or early 2012, a Senate staffer said.

Opposition to the bill is growing from the technology world. On Tuesday, the Business Software Alliance, which represents Microsoft, Intel, Adobe and Apple, pulled its support of the legislation, saying it "needs work" and that some "valid and important questions" have been raised.

That group joined the criticisms previously expressed by Yahoo, which quit the Chamber of Commerce over the matter, and Google, which has threatened to do the same, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their business relationships.

Legislative pushes for the bill in both chambers highlight a consensus among lawmakers and some businesses that online piracy and counterfeiting has become a rampant problem that has drained the pockets of media firms, authors, software and filmmakers who are seeing their goods exchanged for free on the Internet.

Yet while they agree with the spirit of the bill, many technology firms are opposed to the measure as it stands. Last week, tech companies including Facebook signed onto a letter from NetCoalition — a group of companies that counts Google and Yahoo as members— urging the House Judiciary Committee to reconsider the bill. These companies say the bill grants the government too much power to shut down sites that host illegal or pirated content.

Markham Erickson, executive director of NetCoalition, said that while his group did not coordinate with those behind the online push against the bill, it was clear that SOPA has touched a nerve with Web companies.

"We haven't seen a bill as problematic as this for a while," he said. "This is an unprecedented bill in its cope and how far-reaching and disruptive it would be to Web platforms," he said.

But the bill's proponents — which include the Motion Picture Association of America — say that concerns that the bill would damage Internet culture, promote government censorship or encroach on the First Amendment are overblown. Michael O'Leary, MPAA's senior executive vice president for global policy and external affairs, said rhetoric comparing provisions in SOPA to Web censorship are "laughable."

"This bill has due process," he said. "It covers activities that are, under federal law, illegal, and requires that any order issued is public and transparent."
From the Washington Post.

DarkHoodness 11-24-2011 11:51 AM

At least people are more and more aware of this now - And of course those who approve the bill are saying what they're saying. Then they'll laugh in our faces when our freedom of speech rights are stemmed and everything good about the internet is deemed illegal.

Sekto Springs 11-25-2011 05:14 PM

Here's your chance to be famous, guys. Sign this bitch before this guy gives his filibuster.

Stopcensorship.org

MA 11-25-2011 07:06 PM

i would do if i knew how to fucking do it.