At least no one is Welsh.

But you're still a douche.

Oh yes, that's obvious. But I prefer, provocative to douche.

Don't get me started.

I don't mind having my head separated from my body to defend my homeland.
that's how patriotic i am.

I mind.

I like the people of England as quite a lot of us are witty, clever and downright ingenious. There are of course a load of douches who seem to live to be stupid (not in a funny way) and screw us up. Health and safety is OTT as well, but I am proud of the fact that we invented pretty much everything. In a shed.

I'm half British, my dad being a full blown limey cunt.
When push comes to shove, I'd rather throw in with you lot than the US.

I particularly like Great Britain for its low incidence of rabies.

That is certainly a benifit.

I like UK cos of that really good breakfast place. Yum =)

Harvester?

1.
What am I proud of? To be a mongrel of mixed European decent with ancestors who were either prisoners or British soldiers who stole the land of the native population to build prisons. There is nothing special about my country; my birth is a lotto, it was only pure luck I was born on this chunk of fucking rock when it could have been any other.

Patriotism leads to ignorance. Ignorance leads to bigotry. Bigotry leads to hatred. Hatred leads to violence. Violence leads to war.

Patriotism can be a path to the resurfacing of a country. To put it into a flow diagram,

No patriotism leads to stagnation, stagnation leads to idle masses, idle masses lead to crime, descent and civil war

Both of those are ridiculously huge slippery slope arguments.

e: although I do agree with MoxCo.

Our prime minister: 'Multiculturalism is stupid, we need a more cohesive national identity.'

Fuck me, he's out of my doghouse.

Slippery slope arguments go up as well as down.

yes, Yoda.

multiculturalism is good. getting to the point where there are rallies in the street and people can't fly the St George's Cross through fear of being called a racist is not. we're fucking English, if you come here you've got to expect English people and a certain degree of them people showing some level of pride in their country. it isn't a threat towards them, and if they see a threat they need to wake up and realise that it isn't their country. at the moment i feel like i'm living in an airport lobby.

Sure it is.

i couldn't give a shit. times change. we live here now, have done for a long time, and will continue to do so for a long time. if this isn't our home, where the fuck is it?

Where your heart is

I claim Earth in the almighty name of Magnet. Get the fuck off of my planet.

i didn't say they should get out of the country, i thought i made this clear. multiculturalism is good. rallies are not. what are we supposed to do? become nomads?

A woman has already claimed the sun.

i claimed your mother.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. I just think that David Cameron's 'way' will cause more rallies.

You catch more flies with honey etc

As my history teacher said, for there to be an "us", there has to be a "them".

So why can't "them" refer to "other species"?

Why do we all have to hate some other group of people, or treat them as different?

Why is where you were born so goddamn important to some people?

Essentially, it's just a bigger version of a high school clique. People need to feel they belong to a group, no matter how silly it may be.