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Jango 12-27-2010 12:41 PM

My variation!
 
Here it is: the variation I was talking about!

It begins in Abe's Oddysee, RuptureFarms I (the start of the game) and it ends on the seventh screen on Stockyard Escape. The seventh screen on Stockyard Escape is impossible in my variation, so once you reach it, you have won!

DIFFICULTY: HARD. This variation is very unforgiving indeed. I am almost certain that you will die before you reach the first checkpoint. ;) Also, the secret areas are inaccessible (as soon as you go onto them, you get blown up!). It is possible to save all of the Mudokons that you see in my variation.

It took me about 4-5 hours in total to make this variation. :)

I used Paul's v0.2 editor (thanks Paul :D).

And finally, download the .lvl files from here (you need both 'r1.lvl' and 'e1.lvl'):

http://filesmelt.com/dl/r11.lvl
http://filesmelt.com/dl/e1.lvl

Make sure that you rename the 'r11.lvl' file to 'r1.lvl'!

Enjoy, and please leave feedback!

Chubfish 12-27-2010 01:02 PM

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Edit: Oh btw noticed something strange with the slig near the meat grinders, if you run him off the edge so he falls down into the 3rd screen, he won't splat. But if you try to move you'll suddenly appear on the end of the ledge dead :s (the slig, not abe).

I guess sligs are not supposed to fall that far or something?

Maybe so...I tweaked it though, you're actually not supposed to take that slig over. I am working on it to make a full level out of it.

Paul 12-27-2010 01:33 PM

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Here it is: the variation I was talking about!

It begins in Abe's Oddysee, RuptureFarms I (the start of the game) and it ends on the seventh screen on Stockyard Escape. The seventh screen on Stockyard Escape is impossible in my variation, so once you reach it, you have won!

DIFFICULTY: HARD. This variation is very unforgiving indeed. I am almost certain that you will die before you reach the first checkpoint. ;) Also, the secret areas are inaccessible (as soon as you go onto them, you get blown up!).

It took me about 4-5 hours in total to make this variation. :)

I used Paul's v0.2 editor (thanks Paul :D).

And finally, download the .lvl files from here (you need both 'r1.lvl' and 'e1.lvl'):

http://filesmelt.com/dl/r11.lvl
http://filesmelt.com/dl/e1.lvl

Make sure that you rename the 'r11.lvl' file to 'r1.lvl'!

Enjoy, and please leave feedback!

Jesus christ.. are you sure this is possible!? I could only get as far as the falling meat, then I ddcheated the rest to check it out ;)

Scraby 12-27-2010 01:44 PM

nice lvl jango,dang that falling meat :/

Jango 12-27-2010 01:45 PM

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Jesus christ.. are you sure this is possible!? I could only get as far as the falling meat, then I ddcheated the rest to check it out ;)

Are you talking about the bit with the grinder next to the UXB? It is possible; I've done it myself. There is no part of my variation that is impossible. It is all possible to do without ddcheat. :)

What do you think of the rest of my variation?

EDIT: I forgot to mention, it is possible to save all of the Mudokons that you see in my variation.

STM 12-27-2010 02:59 PM

BTW can you mod the demos for AO / AE?

Paul 12-27-2010 04:13 PM

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Are you talking about the bit with the grinder next to the UXB? It is possible; I've done it myself. There is no part of my variation that is impossible. It is all possible to do without ddcheat. :)

What do you think of the rest of my variation?

EDIT: I forgot to mention, it is possible to save all of the Mudokons that you see in my variation.

Its cool but I think "hard" is wrong, its more like "worst nightmare" :P The falling meat part is beyond my skill, hate UXB's.. but a UXB that must be disarmed before the meat grinder/falling meat gets you is evil :P you cant even run back to try again else the mine gets you :(

Littleleeroy 12-27-2010 07:35 PM

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The difference between Paul's and LIJI's tool is that only Paul's is capable to change the positon of collisions and rotate the collisions + adding and deleting objects.
LIJI's tool can't add and delete objects and same for collisions.


EDIT: Only LIJI's tool can change the pitch on mudokons.

I'm pretty sure that you can change the pitch of mudokons with paul's editor. It is the voice adjust option.

NovaMan 12-28-2010 02:08 AM

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I'm pretty sure that you can change the pitch of mudokons with paul's editor. It is the voice adjust option.

Its impossible in exoddus, they are all called bytes.

Scraby 12-28-2010 03:30 AM

you really made my day with that falling meat lever...... i felt my bones crunch :D

Jango 12-28-2010 03:53 AM

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Its cool but I think "hard" is wrong, its more like "worst nightmare" :P The falling meat part is beyond my skill, hate UXB's.. but a UXB that must be disarmed before the meat grinder/falling meat gets you is evil :P you cant even run back to try again else the mine gets you :(

Lol yeah, I would call that particular screen INSANE in difficulty. But HARD is the average difficulty for the whole variation. There are many easier screens in my variation, which is why it averages out to a HARD. I put that screen in there as the 'ultimate' screen - there is nothing that difficult in Oddworld. Come to think of it though, as soon as Abe sees that bit, he would probably give up on trying to escape RuptureFarms. :)

Oh, and another thing, if you hate UXB's then you are not going to easily complete Stockyard Escape. It's almost full of 'em! Hehehehehe! ;)

Scraby 12-28-2010 04:10 AM

i added some secret areas to your variation if you dant have anything against it...
its now insane secret areas,the ones you lose hairs on,i done half of the first path so there are a lot of paths to make the secret areas explosivly dangerous! bwahahahahaha

DWeedMan 12-28-2010 04:45 AM

woohoo I beat Jango's level! I found that the falling meat part is a lot easier than it looks :p

But I really can't do Chubfish's at all :(

EDIT: Actually just finished Chubfish's level, was actually kinda easy.

Jango 12-28-2010 06:50 AM

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woohoo I beat Jango's level! I found that the falling meat part is a lot easier than it looks :p

But I really can't do Chubfish's at all :(

EDIT: Actually just finished Chubfish's level, was actually kinda easy.

Well done. :)

What did you do for the falling meat part that made it easy?

And how difficult did you find the Stockyard Escape? Did you reach the impossible screen? (Not the one that you're meant to use Shrykull on, I mean the one that is full of landmines).

I'm nearly finished with a variation of The Boardroom that I've been working on. It'll be up for download soon.

DWeedMan 12-28-2010 08:54 AM

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Well done. :)

What did you do for the falling meat part that made it easy?

And how difficult did you find the Stockyard Escape? Did you reach the impossible screen? (Not the one that you're meant to use Shrykull on, I mean the one that is full of landmines).

I'm nearly finished with a variation of The Boardroom that I've been working on. It'll be up for download soon.

Hmm not sure, all the falling meat part really required was good timing, and once I got the first bomb deactivated I was basically set to pass the screen.

About Stockyard escape, I did reach the impossible screen, and i found it pretty hard but because of my awesomeness when it comes to timing and defusing bombs i did the stockyard part while just dying twice :)

also can't wait for boardroom!

Jango 12-28-2010 09:00 AM

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Hmm not sure, all the falling meat part really required was good timing, and once I got the first bomb deactivated I was basically set to pass the screen.

About Stockyard escape, I did reach the impossible screen, and i found it pretty hard but because of my awesomeness when it comes to timing and defusing bombs i did the stockyard part while just dying twice :)

also can't wait for boardroom!

Yeah, The Boardroom variation will be harder than the original. I've added lots of mines, sligs and UXB's. You will only really be able to complete it if you are quick at disarming UXB's. Otherwise, you wouldn't stand a chance; the time would run out before you reached the end! :)

EDIT: Ok, here it is! The Boardroom variation.

This variation took me about an hour to make. I used Paul's v0.2 editor. The edited level is (of course): The Boardroom. To get to it quickly, just use the cheat that I mentioned at the end of the first post of this thread.

DIFFICULTY: HARD/INSANE. This variation of The Boardroom is not particularly difficult as a level. But the fact that you have to do it in just two minutes, in my opinion, makes elements of it insanely difficult. I managed to complete it with ten seconds to spare (using the Shrykull power, saving the Mudokon), but I did it almost as fast as you can possibly do it, and I know the level. If you do it without saving the Mudokon, then I wouldn't call it HARD/INSANE, it would just be HARD. :)

The Sligs are a bit glitchy because I had to add them in. If the Sligs freeze when you try to possess them, then just keep chanting and you will posses them eventually.

Get the 'r6.lvl' file from here:

http://filesmelt.com/dl/r6.lvl

Enjoy! And good luck. I think you'll be needing it. Hehehehehe. ;)

DWeedMan 12-28-2010 04:08 PM

I really liked that level, wasn't too hard without saving the mudokon, but damn you have to be fast to do it whilst saving the mudokon.

Scraby 12-28-2010 04:14 PM

i made a joke path at r1 the wery beggining,be carefull if you want to live,i named it RUN ABE,RUN! http://jumbofiles.com/xfbkkhctw5oe/R1.LVL.htm

Littleleeroy 12-29-2010 06:59 AM

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Its impossible in exoddus, they are all called bytes.

Impossible is a very over exaggeration. Just compare 2 mudokons. Its byte 7 btw. and it took me longer to write this post then to discover that.


EDIT: Heres my first go at altering R1.
I also altered the cam files (twice... thats why they have higher contrast). I used paul's level editor 0.2, 0.3 and 0.4. It's taken me an acculmulated 4.5 hours. Start at the start of R1, then finish when you leave the first path. Sorry about the FG1 stuff. I didnt realise 'till i had edited the levels
DIFFICULTY: MEDIUM The goal is to get to path 16 (the normal door) but rescuing all 99 mudokons within the 2 minute death clock. Read the hand stone too :P . I completed it with 30 seconds to spare easily, but that is because I know the order in which to do things ;) .
http://filesmelt.com/dl/r12.lvl
(remove the 2 from r12.lvl)

I have more to come...

P.S. Hint: Hidden areas may not always be down...

RoryF 12-31-2010 09:48 AM

Stockyards
 
I made a level.
GAME: Abe's Oddysee
AREA: Stockyards (Escape)
DIFFICULTY: MEDIUM
EDITOR: Paul's
NOTES:
Be careful at the start, as soon as you move a scrab will jump down and pwn you if you're not fast enough!
Use the first slig you see to kill the slig on the next screen WHO IS AWAKE, leave the other guy until you can possess him...


DOWNLOAD: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IYFSPWP

Paul 01-01-2011 09:52 PM

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Impossible is a very over exaggeration. Just compare 2 mudokons. Its byte 7 btw. and it took me longer to write this post then to discover that.


EDIT: Heres my first go at altering R1.
I also altered the cam files (twice... thats why they have higher contrast). I used paul's level editor 0.2, 0.3 and 0.4. It's taken me an acculmulated 4.5 hours. Start at the start of R1, then finish when you leave the first path. Sorry about the FG1 stuff. I didnt realise 'till i had edited the levels
DIFFICULTY: MEDIUM The goal is to get to path 16 (the normal door) but rescuing all 99 mudokons within the 2 minute death clock. Read the hand stone too :P . I completed it with 30 seconds to spare easily, but that is because I know the order in which to do things ;) .
http://filesmelt.com/dl/r12.lvl
(remove the 2 from r12.lvl)

I have more to come...

P.S. Hint: Hidden areas may not always be down...

I got stuck at the part with the rolling ball, seems impossible to get to it? I like the story stones :D

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I made a level.
GAME: Abe's Oddysee
AREA: Stockyards (Escape)
DIFFICULTY: MEDIUM
EDITOR: Paul's
NOTES:
Be careful at the start, as soon as you move a scrab will jump down and pwn you if you're not fast enough!
Use the first slig you see to kill the slig on the next screen WHO IS AWAKE, leave the other guy until you can possess him...


DOWNLOAD: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IYFSPWP

I died at the 2nd scrab, when you respawn you spawn ON the first scrab and die instantly :(

Littleleeroy 01-02-2011 11:40 PM

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I got stuck at the part with the rolling ball, seems impossible to get to it? I like the story stones :D

Oops... forgot about that. U walk until u cant go any further, then you take a step back and jump (space) :)

Jango 01-08-2011 12:46 PM

Littleleeroy, your variation is very good indeed. I like it how you played around with the .cams and collision items, it made it really interesting!

Oddman360, your variation is good too. It was interesting how you added scrabs and sligs into difficult places.

Keep on making more variations and posting them here! :)

BlackVenom 01-08-2011 03:39 PM

Hmm, I see a problem here. It appears that people are wanting to make the worlds hardest map... And that's happening alot. Difficulty isn't always the most entertaining choice. Make some interesting puzzles or some other unique stuff. I'm not exactly sure what but It's more fun to actually be able to beat something then have some difficulty later on, get a roll happening.

Difficulty should work like a car. You can't start off instantly driving at 100 km/h, you gotta accelerate. start off mildly difficult and work your way up. build up tension, panic and other elements that would test the player.

Scraby 01-08-2011 04:05 PM

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Hmm, I see a problem here. It appears that people are wanting to make the worlds hardest map... And that's happening alot. Difficulty isn't always the most entertaining choice. Make some interesting puzzles or some other unique stuff. I'm not exactly sure what but It's more fun to actually be able to beat something then have some difficulty later on, get a roll happening.

Difficulty should work like a car. You can't start off instantly driving at 100 km/h, you gotta accelerate. start off mildly difficult and work your way up. build up tension, panic and other elements that would test the player.

yeah,its sometimes anoying when in the start you just have to run with no idea what will you run into next.... i made a bit of a fun with a level by placing slig spawners,but then it gets a bit boring,knowing that any screen you go you can expect atleast some sligs falling on your head,many of these levels are interesting you guys make ;) but it aint the point just to make abe go boom :D

EDIT:hey blackvenom,could you upload the lvl pls,would love to try it,especially afther seeing that vid ;)

SligValet 01-08-2011 05:16 PM

Remaking shit with the Source Engine, compare it to the original screen if you want to pick out details I might've missed :p
But keep in mind there are alot more details to come to the background as it's still a WIP.
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3...comparison.png

The only problem I have is the animated stuff from the original exit well, which isn't even there in Paul's 0.5 editor so I can't really move it... Any help on that would be nice.


To-do List
~ Better lighting
~ Fog (isn't showing for some reason)
~ More detail
~ MOAR BACKGROUNDS
:D

BlackVenom 01-08-2011 09:44 PM

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hey blackvenom,could you upload the lvl pls,would love to try it,especially afther seeing that vid ;)

noooooo! xP

Some other time, for now I want to do more with it before uploading anything besides screenies, sneakpeaks and videos! xD

I need to think up a story or plot for this though before I progress with more maps. I want something to follow and not continuously make it up all the way through like I have so far, Although I'm hopeless when it comes to making a great story... xD

Anyway, I'm always making changes too! see!

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1294555870

SligValet 01-08-2011 10:20 PM

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noooooo! xP

Some other time, for now I want to do more with it before uploading anything besides screenies, sneakpeaks and videos! xD

I need to think up a story or plot for this though before I progress with more maps. I want something to follow and not continuously make it up all the way through like I have so far, Although I'm hopeless when it comes to making a great story... xD

Anyway, I'm always making changes too! see!

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1294555870

Not to reign on your parade or anything, but if you want that to be "perfect" (Not saying you do), you made a few grammatical errors at the words "posession" and "delt"
They are meant to be "possession" and "dealt"!
Other than that, I envy your Photoshop skills :D

BlackVenom 01-08-2011 11:00 PM

Thanks, I made it late at night and couldn't be bothered checking for spelling or grammar issues so I just made that and then went to sleep... xD

Phylum 01-08-2011 11:38 PM

The sign doesn't make sense anyway.

You've combined "Any Mudokons caught with a grenade in their possession will face extreme consequences" with "Any Mudokons caught with a grenade in their possessions will be dealt with severely".