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OANST 11-29-2010 12:56 PM

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Ok, sorry, didn't realise. :) Mockery of what? Out of interest.

Of you.

Phylum 11-29-2010 03:54 PM

Of trying to apply logic to a game.

MA 11-29-2010 04:46 PM

WHY DO THE FARTS SOUND THE SAME THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT I NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION

Nate 11-29-2010 06:58 PM

THE SAME as what?

Bullet Magnet 11-29-2010 07:01 PM

Each other, I should think. The number of available fart sounds is rather impoverished.

Xavier 11-29-2010 09:48 PM

Cut the spam and mockery people!

OANST, this isn't your cup of tea, we get it, no need to annoy other people about it so would you kindly GTFO?

lismati 11-30-2010 08:09 AM

SRSLY, that's the stupidest thread I ever seen. I can't belive it came out from Jango (I thought of Crappin' Elum or somebody like him)

Jango 11-30-2010 11:09 AM

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SRSLY, that's the stupidest thread I ever seen. I can't belive it came out from Jango (I thought of Crappin' Elum or somebody like him)

Why the hell does everyone seem hate this thread?

This is a discussion thread about what chemical is used to kill Abe. Just because you aren't a chemist like some of us and aren't interested in this sort of thing, it doesn't mean that you can post things like this.

You're doing nothing more than spamming really, I'm surprised at you lismati. If you don't like my thread - and this applies to everyone - then don't post on it. Because then I would only get posts from people who are actually interested. Not from people who don't care/are not interested, and who think it is clever to post these things that are completely pointless. You're spamming really, and I hope that I don't have to write posts like this anymore, because I don't want to be seen as spamming when I'm telling you to stop it!

Asmoden 11-30-2010 04:56 PM

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Why the hell does everyone seem hate this thread?

This is a discussion thread about what chemical is used to kill Abe. Just because you aren't a chemist like some of us and aren't interested in this sort of thing, it doesn't mean that you can post things like this.

You're doing nothing more than spamming really, I'm surprised at you lismati. If you don't like my thread - and this applies to everyone - then don't post on it. Because then I would only get posts from people who are actually interested. Not from people who don't care/are not interested, and who think it is clever to post these things that are completely pointless. You're spamming really, and I hope that I don't have to write posts like this anymore, because I don't want to be seen as spamming when I'm telling you to stop it!

I subscribe it, and not only for this thread, there are some users who neary do nothing else than spamming.:fuzmad:

Scraby 12-07-2010 10:16 AM

that gas might be coloured,like some gases are colored to make colored lights

lismati 12-07-2010 11:23 AM

I think it's chlorine.

Wil 12-07-2010 01:51 PM

I think it's Slig farts.

Hulaabeo 12-07-2010 04:25 PM

Colored Nerve Gas? I ain't a chemist so if it has a super scientific name like superhipoflubingleeberglabin or somethin like that, please clarify.

OANST 12-08-2010 05:52 AM

I'm quite confident that it doesn't have a super scientific name.

lismati 12-08-2010 07:30 AM

I've got an idea - the gas is Oddinium, it kills instantly, and Glukkons made it, good idea?

Scraby 12-08-2010 07:42 AM

yeah sounds good

Wil 12-08-2010 08:15 AM

I'll add it to the Oddworld Encyclopædia right away.

Jango 12-08-2010 08:53 AM

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I've got an idea - the gas is Oddinium, it kills instantly, and Glukkons made it, good idea?

But you said earlier that you thought the gas was chlorine...

lismati 12-08-2010 09:42 AM

I changed my mind :D Chlorine can't kill you so fast. (But maybe, it the pressure is VERY high, as Oddworld is very big, chlorine may kill instantly)

Jango 12-08-2010 09:57 AM

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I changed my mind :D Chlorine can't kill you so fast. (But maybe, it the pressure is VERY high, as Oddworld is very big, chlorine may kill instantly)

Chlorine can kill instantly in very high concentrations, as you see in Oddworld. The chlorine concentration on the screen (if the gas is chlorine) is very high, due to the deep, green colour.

But I guess there is a possibility that it could be Oddinium. There's no evidence against the Glukkons developing it, however there is no evidence in any of the Oddworld games that Glukkons do make a gas called Oddinium. Also, the 'ium' in the word suggests that it is some sort of metal alloy, not a gas (e.g: platinum, magnesium, titanium etc).

MA 12-08-2010 10:09 AM

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But you said earlier that you thought the gas was chlorine...

Santa isn't real.

better get used to people lying.

Wil 12-08-2010 10:12 AM

Helium.

lismati 12-08-2010 10:19 AM

I don't know english way to make names of new substances, so sorry about that, and Mercury (metal) can produce poisonous gas. (Polish Wikipedia says so)

Jango 12-08-2010 12:17 PM

Chlorine can kill instantly.

If you want other evidence, Wikipedia says:
'About 1,000 ppm can be fatal after a few deep breaths of the gas.'

Therefore, a few deep breaths of chlorine at a concentration of 0.2% will kill you in seconds.

The chlorine concentrations in Oddworld (if it is chlorine) are probably well over 2% because you can clearly see the green colour. Therefore, it would kill you quickly and easily in one breath, as we see when Abe breaths the gas.

I've breathed in chlorine before (by accident) at a concentration of about 0.003%, and it made me cough nastily and it was rather painful. It has an instant effect. Concentrations 1,000 times that amount (3%) would easily kill you instantly.

Bullet Magnet 12-08-2010 12:19 PM

A fatal dose is not equivalent to instant death, just so you know.

lismati 12-08-2010 12:20 PM

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A fatal dose is not equivalent to instant death, just so you know.

But he said, that you take few deep breaths and you die instantly.

Jango 12-08-2010 12:33 PM

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A fatal dose is not equivalent to instant death, just so you know.

If 1,000ppm (0.1%) is a fatal dose, then double the concentration (0.2%) would kill you much quicker. Ten times that amount would kill you instantly.

erwinraaben55 12-09-2010 11:50 AM

And ten times the ten times amount (20%) would kill you before it has even reached you????

Nubstrike 12-09-2010 12:06 PM

Very interesting discussion (made me sign up!), especially since I have a passion for chemistry myself :p

You have brought up chlorine due to the green colour and quick (yet not instant) lethality, and abundance. That would fit.
However, the Sligs are unaffected by it - provable in both games. It could be argued that their masks work as gas masks.
But... In the end of Oddysey, you can notice (by dropping into the board room the very last second) that Glukkons are completely immune to the gas as well.

Logic-wise, the gas would probably have to be a very species-specific (in fact, Mudokon-specific) poison.

It is possible however that the devs based their fictional toxic gas on chlorine.

Jango 12-09-2010 12:07 PM

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Very interesting discussion (made me sign up!), especially since I have a passion for chemistry myself

You have brought up chlorine due to the green colour and quick (yet not instant) lethality, and abundance. That would fit.
However, the Sligs are unaffected by it - provable in both games. It could be argued that their masks work as gas masks.
But... In the end of Oddysey, you can notice (by dropping into the board room the very last second) that Glukkons are completely immune to the gas as well.

Logic-wise, the gas would probably have to be a very species-specific (in fact, Mudokon-specific) poison.

It is possible however that the devs based their fictional toxic gas on chlorine.

Glad you're interested. :)

Yes, I do see where you are coming from, but Glukkons are much bigger and look physically tougher than mudokons. Perhaps the chlorine is not quite at a high enough concentration to harm them, or the Glukkons simply are resistant to it.

But on your interesting point about it being specific to mudokons, I do think is likely. The game developers might have based it on the fact that stereotypically, toxic gas is green in colour.

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And ten times the ten times amount (20%) would kill you before it has even reached you????

How would it do that? What do you mean by 'reached you'?