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Schnappi 11-16-2009 01:46 AM

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and Fable's story and engine are...?

Fable engine didn't crash (Atleast I never had crash with this game :P). Oblivion was crashing like every hour before Bethesda released patch. Then it was crashing just randomly (Especially because of memory leaks). Engine has many other issues. Bethesda wasn't even able to eliminate memory leaks when they used that engine for Fallout 3. I hope they will use new engine for The Elder Scrolls V and Fallout New Vegas.

Pros and Cons (Without those I named above):
Oblivion Pros:
Open and detaily world,
Playtime,
World Editor,
Plug-ins,
OST wasn't bad too,


Oblivion Cons:
Sometimes you feel world somehow empty,
Game isn't really balanced,
Character animations,
Dialogs,
Closing oblivion gates was boring as hell,
Realistic graphics sometimes fails,

Summary: Engine is buggy and some RPG elements doesn't really work together (Game designer was lazy or what, j/k)

Fable Pros:
Quite entertaining,
Brought some new concepts,
Fairly balanced,
Nicely built world,

Fable Cons:
Some parts of game and quests are boring,
Dialogs aren't that great too,
World isn't open,
Relatively short playtime,

Summary: Engine is ok and it's fairly good RPG, but it could be better.

Hard to compare, because each of those games were meant to be played differently, but I think Fable is better.

Anyone with me? :P

T-nex 11-16-2009 03:09 AM

I love both Fable and Oblivion, so count me out of that battle :p
The reason I suggested a Fable-esque oddworld game is because Im afraid an oblivion-styled game is too specific... There's a large amount of people who love these game, but there's also a large amount of people who hate the games because it's boring and too open. An oblivion-style game caters to too specific tastes. A lot of people love adventure games though, and I felt that Fable was more of an adventure game with RPG elements rather than a hardcore RPG with tons of things to explore, books to read and lore to hear.
Fable is much more simple, and It had a more linear story-line. To go from FPS to really just RPG'ish RPGs is too much of a gap, but I could totally see a fable-styled oddworld game come out at some point :p

Although personally I wouldn't mind playing an Oblivion'y oddworld game.

MeechMunchie 11-16-2009 08:38 AM

An RTS/RPG a bit like Dawn of War II could work. An RTS, but with small, RP driven squads.

erwinraaben55 11-16-2009 09:06 AM

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this thread should be called 'oddworld 5' not 'oddworld 4'


Thanks for people with real knowledge about Oddworld :D

Xav is totally right here.

The title simply says Oddworld 4. Technically Stranger is Oddworlds 4th game. The topic starter never mentioned quintology games or what ever.

Let's do a little quiz:
ODDWORLD: Abe's Oddysee
ODDWORLD: Abe's Exoddus
ODDWORLD: Munch's Oddysee
ODDWORLD: Stranger's Wrath

How many times did I write ODDWORLD?

Indeed, if asked about the next quintology game, that should be number 3, or it would be the next bonus game for the quintology ;).

And yes, Abe's Exoddus is a BONUS game towards the quintology, it is mentioned in the manual for gods sake!. Yes, got someone to die a little bit more again! :D I like that, I am kinda sadistic muhahahaha.

See page 27 in this PDF of 48 of the manual itself:
http://www.replacementdocs.com/request.php?5812


But to get back to the topic:

I don't imagine myself anything about it. I let myself surprise entirely. Too bad we have to wait a long long time before we see anything new about Oddworld.

OddjobAbe 11-16-2009 09:35 AM

My friend, I fear that even your generation will be long dead before we hear anything of Oddworld that is new.

MA 11-16-2009 09:38 AM

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Thanks for people with real knowledge about Oddworld :D

Xav is totally right here.

The title simply says Oddworld 4. Technically Stranger is Oddworlds 4th game. The topic starter never mentioned quintology games or what ever.

Let's do a little quiz:
ODDWORLD: Abe's Oddysee
ODDWORLD: Abe's Exoddus
ODDWORLD: Munch's Oddysee
ODDWORLD: Stranger's Wrath

How many times did I write ODDWORLD?

Indeed, if asked about the next quintology game, that should be number 3, or it would be the next bonus game for the quintology ;).

And yes, Abe's Exoddus is a BONUS game towards the quintology, it is mentioned in the manual for gods sake!. Yes, got someone to die a little bit more again! :D I like that, I am kinda sadistic muhahahaha.

See page 27 in this PDF of 48 of the manual itself:
http://www.replacementdocs.com/request.php?5812

you really didn't need to write all that to prove a point that had already been proven in one line. i think we knew what Xav was getting at in his post.

we know you know a lot about Oddworld. don't worry.

master of hardcore 11-16-2009 11:09 PM

i did not play strangers wrath yet. where can i buy it? is it for pc?

Nate 11-17-2009 12:59 AM

Right now it's only for the Xbox but OWI are in the process of converting it to the PC. Should be available in the near future.

used:) 11-17-2009 06:06 AM

I think an angel is born every time someone says that.

Crashpunk 11-18-2009 11:23 AM

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I'd like to see a Slig hero in the final Oddworld game, not sure why.
Final?

Vexus 11-18-2009 06:00 PM

I always thought that even though Exoddus was a bonus game, it was still 'canon' so to speak...like some kind of odd expansion pack thing for Oddsyee.

Nate 11-18-2009 07:06 PM

That is correct. What is your point?

MarsMudoken 11-19-2009 12:18 AM

Wow this got off topic then on topic then off topic ... sorry, Mars here.


Now to answer everything like a pompus A-hole:

1. I can understand people not counting SW (Stranger's Wrath to you n00bs out there) as an Oddworld game. My own father said it wasn't Oddworld because it was too different. Or something...point is this is west Mudos so it does count. And no one said anything about the quintology so all you people saying this should be called Oddworld 5 are right. You guys FTW.

2. Hand of Odd showed in a trailer a slig moving up ladders and starting a siren. They also showed the infamous slig toss. Point is is that if you can just click to do something you can just zoom in the camera and it'll feel like MO! Or maybe they'll do it Lego Rock Raiders style where you can switch to a unit's first-person view!? Just thinking...

3. Explain to me why were talking of fable and oblivion? Wait I just spoke about Rock Raiders...um...aawwwwkkkwaaarrrrddd.

4. OddJobAbe we meet again...well I'm twelve so I WILL live to see the next Oddness!!! And so will you guys! Didn't Lorne say something about TV shows and movies around 2015? All we have to do is do what we've been doing for years: know that movies are fake and can't happen. 2012, bring it on.

Nate 11-19-2009 02:39 AM

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2. Hand of Odd showed in a trailer a slig moving up ladders and starting a siren. They also showed the infamous slig toss. Point is is that if you can just click to do something you can just zoom in the camera and it'll feel like MO! Or maybe they'll do it Lego Rock Raiders style where you can switch to a unit's first-person view!? Just thinking...
These were early prototypes for MO, not HoO.

marlz 11-23-2009 01:31 AM

The next game, in theory, should be Munch's Exoddus for two reasons.

1. OWI promised in the instruction manual of AE that every game in the Quintology would be accompanied by one OR MORE bonus games. MO does not yet have a bonus game, so ME should be coming soon.

2. Mullock has been found. I know this seems a bit random but that pretty much sets the tone for the next part of the adventure. Mullock is sure to want to getrevenge on Abe ASAP, so it is most likely that it will happen in the next game.

That's just the felling that I, along with 3 other Oddworld enthusiasts whom I know, have about this situation.

Nate 11-23-2009 03:04 AM

The next game should be something that will be successful and will draw in a new audience to Oddworld. That probably won't be a sequel or anything to do with the quintology.


Given what Lorne has said about the future of gaming being community-based and involving interaction between people and societies, I have my doubts that the quintology will ever be completed in game form. I see the films as being much more likely.

MyParaMite Pie 11-23-2009 03:18 AM

i dont know because really i enjoyed the whole 2d effect it brought and i would actualy like to see another 2D version it was just so appealing but with everything updating like graphics and everything i think people that played the originals would like it. I didnt think that the 3D in munches was a very good idea i think it just makes the point of abe being on a ledge pointless...

marlz 11-23-2009 07:52 PM

Ah, but how cool will the Shrykull be in 3D, ey?

Also, while I'm on the topic of the Shrykull, why were Abe's hand scars the ones for Paramonia and Scrabania in AO and Mudomo and Mudanchee in AE, but then both changed to the Mudanchee scars in MO? Does anyone know cause I'm just a bit curious.

Xavier 11-24-2009 05:52 AM

You mean he has the same scar on both hands in MO? Honestly I never checked.

MyParaMite Pie 11-26-2009 04:19 AM

Acording to my friend nothing can be 2D (but i wont get into it) Shrykull is 3D but i know what you mean like imagine it with fully upgraded graphics it would be awsome

Xavier 11-26-2009 04:47 AM

Probably something like that:
http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...=RAMO0191.jpg7

Bullet Magnet 11-26-2009 06:52 AM

The Impression I got from Hand of Odd was that, being run on A.L.I.V.E² and the Munch engine, it would be played in a similar fashion to the RTS elements from Giants: Citizen Kabuto and Brutal Legend, in that you play as the "general" on the ground.

Crashpunk 11-26-2009 06:58 AM

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The next game should be something that will be successful and will draw in a new audience to Oddworld. That probably won't be a sequel or anything to do with the quintology.
That would be good. but they should carry on the Quintology after that. Personally, Munch's Exoddus needs to be made.

enchilado 11-26-2009 02:42 PM

I want to take this opportunity to tell you how much I love CRAZY Oddworld. It's fucking hilarious.

As to Oddworld 4, it's already made... or there's another game to come before it.

If you mean ALL Oddworld games, it's SW. If you mean Quintology games, MO is the second, and SO will be the third, and NO the fourth (assuming they are Squeek's and Nod's Oddysees). However... I doubt they will ever be made.

Didn't Lorne say in that interview where he mentioned the Oddbox that what they were working on was online and social-based? So if they make another game, it could be that.


~the dancing Scrab in the first one was da best, mate.
Enchilado

Xavier 11-26-2009 11:49 PM

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Didn't Lorne say in that interview where he mentioned the Oddbox that what they were working on was online and social-based? So if they make another game, it could be that.

Yeah he said something like that but I doubt it will be set on Oddworld...

I really wonder what's coming up next.

Crashpunk 11-30-2009 07:50 AM

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I want to take this opportunity to tell you how much I love CRAZY Oddworld. It's fucking hilarious.
Aww thanks dude. you don't know how much that means to me :p

STM 12-05-2009 12:53 AM

We at Fanwkerz where gonna have a go at hand of off RTS but our heads sploded so for the time beings its sitting out.

enchilado 12-06-2009 12:34 PM

What made them asplode, design/graphics/coding?

marlz 12-15-2009 02:09 AM

DOH! My bad! The artwork on the GBA box is flipped, so it looks like he has two Mudanchee Scars... oops!

leocrow 12-26-2009 12:01 PM

oh, a Prince Of Odd! i'd love to see a prince of persia game with oddworld characters:p