Except that if humanity didn't have religion, it would instead have something else to fight about.

I'm gonna start a cult someday.

You're the one thinking of it, not me.

Get bent dickhead.

That is a fair point. It's saddening to think that folk will always find some excuse to blow the shit out of each other.

Ah that's so true. Religion is both a gift and a curse. Even Atheists end up messing up as well, no one is safe.

I might do this for the money.


God knows people are pliable, and I've been described as 'Able to sell air conditioning to an Eskimo'.

Not by the avatar kid, you freak.

His name is Shaman and he's not interested in what you have to propose. Understand?

Let us worship the almighty Raisin!

Heh, well if its fictional idols we're going to worship, I choose the Almighty Tallest! At least they understand gay. ;)

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"Save me Jebus!"

I'm unaware of other kinds.

Let's not jump to conclusions...



This joke makes me a bad person...

Are you saying that even hinting at the possibility of homosexual tendencies makes you a bad person? The ice, she be cracking.

Oh please it was just friendly jibe...

Are you talking to yourself?

whoops wrong quote :)


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Seventh-Day Advent Hoppists; base their beliefs on a mistranslation of the Bible that states that states "Faith, hop, and charity, and the greatest of these is hop".

I wasn't jumping to conclusions, I was just hopping that OANST hadn't completely lured you to the dark side.

Or do I mean the brown side?

I for one have no problem with religious people killing off other religious people. However after 9/11 that entire funny situation expanded to the west and now the normal people are being killed too, so now it has become my problem as well.

I'm sure we'd find something to fight over, WWI and II hardly had any religious background (at least I don't think Hitler wanted the Jews dead because of something God said, unless I missed that in history class). The war in the middle east has no religious purpose whatsoever and WWIII (It'll happen, just wait) is more likely to be about resources (water/oil).

Humans have a killing instinct, it's just what we do. However it would make me feel a whole lot better if a war is fought over something real. Be it land, resources or money. If I have to serve in the next World War because Germany decided to fuck the world over the third and final time, and I get shot in my ass, at least I won't have to lay on my stomach for the next 3 months because some towlhead didn't agree with what someone said about his night night story. At least I'd get to lay in that hospital, having been shot by someone who actually tried to accomplish something real (and Germans have proven time and time again they can accomplish those goals quite effectively, which is a lot better then shooting my ass for 70 virgins).

So yeah, maybe we would find something else to fight about. But at least that fight would mean something. What goes on in places like the Gaza Strip and whatnot doesn't mean jack shit. It's a waste of perfectly good bullets and medical equipment.

Due to the unholy time of 2:22AM, Havoc does not take any responsibility for the above post in terms of grammar or hard-to-readability. Tha- Fuck you.

So many things wrong with this, least of all the racist insult.

Havoc, do you honestly think that wars are fought for religion? Wars are fought for money and power and religion oft gets the blame as it is the easiest way of justifying these intentions to the great unwashed.

Also, the Middle East conflict has always been the West's problem, ever since we planted the seeds of HMS FUBAR there back in the fourties, the fifties, the sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties. You can call 9/11 some well overdue backlash, horrible, disgusting and dreadful yes, but not at all unexpected given Newton's Laws.

Wow Havoc. I just lost a lot of respect for you.

I really want to picture this ship in my head.

It's like the set from that old Philadelphia Experiment movie mixed with that Movie that In The Navy was related to.

I want to pulverize you with a hailstorm of teeth and misshapen limbs.

Think the crusades. You could say those were fought over land, but religion drove it as well. I'm no authority on the crusades though, so I could be wrong.

As for the middle east, sure that's the west's fault. We created the mess in the Gaza strip and we created the mess in Afghanistan and Iraq. I know my history, I know the level of involvement the west has in those places. However the reason people are fighting in Gaza right now is because of religious reasons. Because one side read in some book that the land of the other side actually belongs to them so they want to take it back. The other side meanwhile was just getting comfy where they were and don't want to go away without a fight. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that the real source of the conflict over there, many many years ago, was based on some religious people wanting a piece of land back that a dusty book claims is theirs.

Anony: You had respect for me? :confused:

Kastere: Don't misquote me. I didn't say Jews did WTC, I never even connected the two.

Actually, that's a perfect example of what I mean, Havoc.

The Israel/Palestinian issue has only ever been about one thing: Land. Both sides think they have exclusive right to live in the same patch of soil [/oversimplification]. That it has become couched in relgious terms (suicide bombers, 70 virgins, holy land, etc) is a later addition; it all started with the land.

Yes but at least one of those sides think they have exclusive rights because their holy book tells them so. Which is exactly my point.

Did you guys know that King David was a traitorous, murdering asshole?

Yes, I changed the subject.

What about Goliath?