...you end dizzy for an hour?

Hmmm...now that I'm toning down on weed and I don't really drink, what will satisfy my urges to get completely shitfaced? This question must be answered soon lest my head explode.

Has anyone tried shrooms?

I don't smoke weed as much as I used to. I find it a little boring now actually, cause it's always the same experience. Of course you get some weed that's a head high, some weed that's a couchlock/body high. But really it's all the same feeling, you feel wasted, happier, and relaxed.

I used to take it a lot to calm my hyperness but that seems to be getting better now. Although alarmingly I'm losing weight now that I don't get the munchies so often. I blame my weight loss problems on the price of sandwiches at my college.

Oh, and I don't have -any- glass, none whatsoever. No bongs, pipes, vapes, chillums, or any other smoking parafinalia other than ashtrays and various funky coloured papers. I've also got this neat zippo and a lighter shaped like a sparkplug, but I don't use the latter because it drinks fuel like a hobo.

You obviously know nothing of drugs.

The only halucenagen I've tried is Morninglory seeds, which must be taken with pot to work correctly. They were rather fun. I was in a forest, which changed to a jungle in Vietnam, and then the Flintstones world at night. :D

That's weird, I always thought of you as having a big 'ol collection. Hmm.

I'v ealways thpught that shrooms would be an interesting experience, but I don't like taking risks...much.

No, and I don't plan on finding out either.

Oh snap, ignorance for the win!

You dont NEED weed for morning glory, it works quite well by itself but weed probably enhances it. Oh the time I tried morning glory was crazy, it owned my stomach and both me and my friend vomited repeatedly. Then he started hallucinating and babbling about reality and perception for a few hours. At some point we did smoke some weed though...

Anyway, salvia is definetly the craziest hallucinogen I've tried...and the only one I've gotten any hallucinations from. It's still legal so go buy some and enjoy (with a sitter)

Wowzers. My friend and I took 4 packages each one time, and not even anything happened. Any tips on the how-to-takeage?

Salvia? Ne'er heard of it. To the Internet!

Gasp, you haven't heard of salvia? I bought a gram of 20x extract this summer and smoked it with the same friend I ate the morning glory with. (bad grammar ftw) We tried it like 4 times each over 2 days, still have some left over, the stuff is extremely potent, just a few sprinkles of the powdered leaf catapults you into outerspace.

You feel a strong feeling of gravity or something pulling you, and this weird presence comes and talks to you. I remember being pulled onto a weird miniature railroad with some goddess.. and she was telling me that I wasn't ready to see the "truth" and I would have to wait and smoke more in the future. The train traveled across the inside of a giant green fish, which was the entire universe and made out of huge puzzle pieces...so yeah crazy stuff.

If you do get around to trying it, make sure youre in a dark quiet place with a friend as a sitter. You forget where you are and what you're doing, so make sure your friend takes the bowl from you after the second hit. I remember being so confused when he took it from my hand, I couldn't understand what he was doing and why he was taking it, I got so angry for a few seconds for no reason at all. It was pretty funny when I came back about 5 min later.

Yeah... anyway I should be doing my calculus hw.

*G4sp0rZ*

Now that you mention it, a bunch of my friends tried that a while ago. Someone described himself as immobile because the grass beneath him had grown into him, and he was stuck to the ground. Sound familiar? :p

Came back 5 minutes later? Are you saying that's how long the high lasts?!?!? Because one of the websites I visited said it varied from 3 minutes to 40. And so being high for 3 minutes would blow rock candy.

Anyway, I heard the stuff was hella-expensive, almost 60 bucks for a "container". Is that about true-ish? Cuz there's no way I'm gonna spend 60 bucks for a 3-minute high.

Damnit! I want to be a dealerz0rz! That's good money, and I need money! NO one wopuld suspect anything in a bleek little town like mine.

^^Do you do drugs? It's hard to be a dealer if you don't know what you're dealing with.

nope, probably never will. I am like a glukkon, I'll sell the product, but will never EVER use it.

Also, that stuff is legal, so dealing a legal substance would be rather stupid.

I got a gram of 20x for 20 or so dollars, with about 10 doses in there. The high is pretty short, which IMO is a plus considering how intense it can get. I think the longest it lasted was about 8 min out of the 4 times I've tried it, but all drugs are pretty subjective in terms of effects. Some people say it feels like hours or even days, so who knows.

oh and yeah, feeling like you can't move is definetly part of it, crazy gravity feeling

taco sauce is my left handed hero

Question, did you get it from a friend or pharmacy? Also, is the high totally over after 8 minutes, or does it still hover around?

God, I'm a question whore. :p

Hah I bought it online (there are so many stores (online and head shops) for it, the one I bought it from is now gone though). I felt kind of trembly and super relaxed, things seem kind of strange for about another 20 minutes and the relaxation seems to last for a few hours.

Ah, ok then. Sounds worthwhile, at least worth a try. I'll check it out. My friend already said he'd try it with me if any happened to come up.

Hmm.... I wonder if smoking plain ol' sage would work.... *ponder*

Hah, from my experience, no

I actually have a salvia d plant, its in a perpetual state of zombification, half dead and half alive. It's actually a very nice looking plant, but its practically worthless in the psychoactive sense unless I gather the leaves for a year and then do an extratoin.

I'm rather reluctant to try cannabis. My mother's side has a strong history of mental illness, and the possiblity of developing severe side effects of cannabis (ie. skitzophrenia) are very real. I can really only say I've been offered to smoke it once, and I must say I nearly did. No peer pressure or anything, just some drunk offered some while I was lighting up with mates.

Obviously, I've drunk before. And just recently it got me into a lot of trouble, considering I'm still underage. Yes sirree, a lot of trouble indeed. However, I have never been smashed or hammered before, and I don't really intend to do so. Alcohol doesn't do much for me other than increase the rate at which I can make whitty, and rather non-sensical comments :p But then again, that's me normally.

Recently I've started smoking, though I don't see that as a problem, as I'm not addicted. When I smoke, I choose to smoke, not because I have to. I still laugh at how appauling I was when I first took a puff. It must have been hilarious for my mate to witness :p

As for tea or coffee. Caffiene has no effect on me. I've taken numerous 'pep-pills' at once as a joke to see how hyper I'd get, and I must say I didn't feel anything. Which is probably why I dislike coffee. Tea is okay tasting in a weird sort of way.

Alcar...

Everyone thinks that they could be a drug dealer but it really isn't that easy. And it's nowhere near as fun as you would think. There's a lot of work involved and lots of walking around the streets with lots of drugs about your person.

I deal weed among a few returning customers and also occasionally "pop the question" to passing kids, which has it's risks. But generally selling weed makes you feel like a low life and a total hobo. However I like to get rid of as much as I can as it reduces my stash size and therefore the risks of being charged with supplying/dealing as opposed to just walking away with a confiscation order and no charges. But I don't like to just give it away.

Getting into drug dealing is easier and safer if you do it solo, selling your own products. But if you're doing things like E, coke, heroin, crack, speed, acid and other such drugs, you rely on suppliers who'll only give you a dealer's cut of the profits, but they'll be very unlikely to trust you and they like a steady income. They don't take kindly to having their unsold products handed back to them, nor are they particularly keen on having their money taken. This is why many dealers and suppliers work among friends in a tight knit network of contacts. Keeping things friendly like that assures an understanding, makes favours easier, and generally keeps things running smoothly without any runaways, grasses or fights. Generally speaking, there's absolutely no way into that kind of trade for an outsider with no contacts.

If you're planning on growing weed for profit and small time stash like I did, then I suggest you keep it schtum at all times, never admit to growing, and only sell the weed to friends. But before you attempt, do your research on growing weed. Learn about watering, nutrients, pot/planter capacity, soil types, lighting requirements, and the importance of temperature control/ventilation. Growing enough plants to net you about 4 ounces will cost you in the region of £180 to £250 (around $270 $330) depending on what resources are already available. You'll need a credit card as well as access to a nearby gardening supply store or similar - or if you're on zero budget you should at least have access to plenty of pH neutral soil (preferably potting compost with peat), 2.5/3 gallon pots/buckets, some NPK, a 400watt high pressure sodium lamp or equivolent wattage in either fluorescent, compact fluorescent, and/or metal halide bulbs (sometimes found in security lights as with HPS lamps), and finally an oscillating desk fan for temperature regulation and stem strengthening. Remember that incandescent and halogen bulbs will not offer any decent amount of plant useable light (P.A.R.).

Getting the seeds can be tricky, but sometimes you can find some in baggies of shitty low quality street weed if you buy off a dealer. Remember; the quality of the weed is not indicative of the quality of the seed. The quality of the end product will be entirely a result of your gardening skills.

This salvia sounds interesting, when I can find somewhere to buy it I may give it a try.

Not much point in ever getting into dealing then. You gotta know what you're selling to be able to sell it properly. Not that I've ever dealt drugs, so I wouldn't really know. I'm just a consumer not a supplier. But I guess that's the away it is.

What amuses me about cannabis is the fact you can supposedly "legally" buy the seeds. So long as you just buy them just to look at, or something. Not to GROW. Just to LOOK AT. I used to have some brilliant adverts which had prices and how to grow and etc, but the dire warning "Please note, it is ILLEGAL to germinate these seeds in the UK!"

I think I'm fairly caffeine-resistant, too. :P (Well, the tea equivalent - can't stand coffee. I think tea-caffeine (whose name I forget) MIGHT be slightly stronger than coffee-caffeine, but I may be horribly misquoting National Geographic, which had a nifty article on caffeine a while ago). Pro-plus sends me to sleep, and I always sleep better with a nice cuppa before I put the lights out. :)

Oh! Oh! I read that! Who knew caffeine could be so interesting? Do you remember the photo of a guy shoveling out the caffeine gunk from the coffee? That was disgusting and looked like dirty snow.

Caffeine doesn't seem to do anything too noticeable to me either, except certain sodas kill my stomach...

That's a myth. You don't need to know what you're dealing at all, you just give the customer what they want, take their money, then make yourself scarce.

Great thing about selling weed is that it has a psychosomatic effect - in other words, people THINK they're getting high because that's what they expect to happen. So even if it's quite weak weed, most people won't really complain, because they'll still have a great time when they smoke it.

Nah, I wouldn't make a weak weed. Gabe's Sweet Smokes! It will kake you feel like you never had such a crappy life!

I wouldn't want to get into ecstasy or cocaine. That stuff isn't popular around here, every druggee I know buys weed so yeah, being innovative is good, but when it carries a heavier price, noooo.