excuse me. I'm showing you the horrible truth. Why burn me for showing it how it is? Lorne made Oddworld to exploit sh*t like this. One of Oddworld's heaviest basis is on animal testing and animal cruelty. Fuzzles and ratz and so on.. are all what Lorne likened to the situations of animals today. Think about it..Scientists=vykkers. lab animals=fuzzles, muds, etc...
DO YOU ALL KNOW WHY THEY ARE CALLED VYKKERS? VIVISECTOR=VYKKERS (ODDWORLD USUALLY MAKES WORDS LOOK DIFFERENT OR SOUND DIFFERENT OR ACRONIMATE TO THEIR REAL LIFE COUNTERPARTS)

'VIVISECTOR=VYKKERS'

That would actually make sense...here's everybody else saying "Vykkers-Vicars, because Vykkers play God.". I like your reasoning better.

Finally someone understands me. Vivisectors are scientists that practise animal testing and operate on live animals or carry out procedures that will endorse a painful reaction when they wake from anaesthetic-isn't that what vykkers do???

Sorry, I can't take a post with block capitals seriously. If you feel so die hard about it, keep your fucking thread, it's not like I actually care.

Oh, grow up hobo. I just state the truth and you go and get too excited. Calm down! If you can't accept this, it's just a sign that you don't understand oddworld and need to find another game because oddworld has a moral and this is one of them...

My thoughts...

Animal Testing for the adavancements of Science=Good!

Animal Testing for Cosmetics and other things of that Nature=Bad!

I prefer not to become radical when it comes to animal testing. PETA is just one example of a group that takes animal rights too far.

-oddguy

Well the point of mangling animals in such a way is disturbing but it happens. Strange really we mangle and kill each other but we move onto animals aswell.

Strange... I can't split the posts with quotes in it...
the rest of the flame is an other part that is closed
try to not flame here anymore

HI all, check these videos out too. The action1 opening sequence made me cry and so did the beagle dog rescue and do you know what makes me even more sad? Beagle dogs are used in vivisections because of their 'kind, passive nature and unwillingness to bite'-isn't that what lovely dogs like labradors and retrievers display? How can people do this to lovely creatures? Also, what does sticking electrodes into animals heads and shattering and operating on hind legs do to help cure humans?http://www.shac.net/MERCHANDISE/videos.html

That is f*cken disgusting how can anybody justify that in the name of science. I don’t recommend anyone watches the undercover footage its just f*cked up those sick b*sterds enjoy there work as well.

digustings scenes indeed...
very strong images

I'm just going to take your guys word for it and not watch the video. :)

-oddguy

im also going to show you the real truth of how lab animals are treated-I really need u all to see this-i was in tears over this.http://www.huntingdonsucks.com/

No actually, PETA is one of the best organizations there is. I am part of SHAC(stop Huntingdon animal cruelty), NAVS(National anti-vivisection society) and ALF(animal liberation front)-these groups are all in connection with PETA too and I don't reallty think PETA is radical-if only you had seen what I had seen.

alf... how funny...
anyway do NOT dubble post! or you will get a warning.
use the Edit button please

No, I'm sorry, I'm not having this. The only part of this thread that belongs in General Discussion is the observation that the species name 'Vykkers' is derived from 'Vivisection'. The main topic here is strictly Earth-based, and hence you can talk about in off-topic along with the McDonald's threads and so forth.

The fact that Oddworld is about expressing such activities is also irrelevant. Oddworld is a parody of Earth, and hence almost all of its material is derived from something in our world.

*moves*

But with more twisted oddess to it. Oddworld shows what could happen to our world.
e.g.Gabbits almost extincted. Meeches are extinced, but more for eating that testing.

Hey, when i go to oddworld dicussion on this thread, i end up in off-topic.
I'll said before and i'll say it again .Strange...

That's because I moved the topic there and left a link in GD so people could find it.

PETA has stated repeatedly that their goal is "total animal liberation." This means no pets, no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no fishing, no leather, and no animal testing for lifesaving medicines.


PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals.


PETA funds the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine 3, an animal-rights organization that presents itself as an unbiased source for nutritional information and has links to a violent animal-rights group called SHAC.


PETA has used their contributors’ tax-exempt donations to fund the North American Earth Liberation front, an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for fire bombs and death threats.


PETA regularly targets kids as early as elementary school with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda.


PETA spends less than one percent of its $13 million budget actually caring for animals.


PETA has repeatedly attacked groups like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, for conducting animal testing to find cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases.

Sounds pretty radical to me. I mean, they support people who bomb research labs. That isn't cool with me at all. And read this rediculous article.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115108,00.html

-oddguy

I have more proof that PETA and all groups connected to it are corrupt and radical.

Well you learn something new everyday, but it should have a more gruelsome title to warn some people.

Erm, you seem to have a ****ed up U.

EDIT: Just, ignore me. ****s sake.....

[Offtopic] Ferill: The u has to be fucked up, otherwise it gets filtered. Well I suppose I could fuck up any letter to get it through the filter. But who gives a fuck eh?

[Ontopic] Despite being a pacafist, I have nothing against animal testing. As long as it can help protect the lives of humans I'm for it. I'm probably going to get flamed for this, so I think I'll run now.

Ah, thank you dear homeless friend.

[Go me and my stylish usage of 'boi'. Oh yeh. Whoo!!] This quote just amused me, quite amusing really.

I will not look at any of the links you posted. I know I couldn't handle it.

I think animal testing is a cruel cruel thing. However, it is a necessary evil. I have a good friend who has epilepsy. She wouldn't be here if it weren't for animal testing. Same thing with my sister, she has diabetes.

Animal testing for cosmetics? BAD. PETA? Also bad. They are radicals. They would have everyone release their pets into the wild (PETA believes keeping animals for companionship is cruel treatment of animals).

Many animals based products are used to power your homes and businesses. Peta have no chance.

I agree that animal testing for cosmetics is unnecessary. I do believe that animal testing for science is okay. I don't need to know what happens to the animals for research...if AIDS is cured then it's no big deal.

-oddguy

Well-all of you are wrong. When anti-hyperactivity drugs were tested in cats and dogs, it made them over-hyper and excited. Cats and dogs have not much in common with humans as their metabolism is much faster and they have different reactions to humans. Maybe SHAC is violent and I am 100% behind them as Huntingdon is well known in UK and USA and they need to be closed down. After that, we a re moving on to Elan, Yamanouchi, SmithKlineBeecham, Eisai and anyone that has labs for animal testing. Even, stockbrokers are saying 'Elan and Huntingdon are teetering and a few more campaigns are surely going to end it for them'. Also, the smoke grenade attacks were in my eyes, fanatastic-we are gonna bring those ****ing shitheads down and animal testing is going to decrease> and all of you people are not part of an animal rights group and I know more details than you and you are all wrong when you say 'animal testing help science'-search up the Lord Dowding Fund-they are one of the largest pharmaceutical groups and do NIT test on animals-we are a modern world-surely we can find replacements, it's NOt impossible and never was.

Sorry.

-oddguy

Don't take away the guy's only feeling of importance Oddguy, It takes someone dumb to do something cool, that's why it's cool. But I must admit you are going Kaichi-crazy, relax, Oddguy made a point, now shutup!