I think the biggest reason for the change was because of the situation in Japan, since the mudokons had 3 fingers in all releases of AE they probably decided to follow same suit with the mudokons pops image.

Nope. It's something else to do with Japan, but not the finger-based extortion.

What's the situation with that btw? Are they giving Abe his finger back so he can stick it to Japan or not?

You'll have to wait for the interview...

Or search through the forum's history from the middle of this year and draw your own conclusions.

You tease.

Also; level editor. That is all.

This is the single most important addition that can possibly be requested for this remake.

After the loincloth DLC.

You could make Abe's Exoddus an DLC? If this still is a Oddysee Re-make.

Would it make sense to have Exoddus as DLC?

The game is bigger than Oddysee...

But the engine is the same. It could be a DLC expansion.

I thought you can already download AE off of Steam and GOG.

Really? Abe's Exoddus HD is on Steam and GOG?

When did we start talking about Exoddus HD?

The beginning of the thread.

I thought we were talking about Abe HD at the beginning of the thread.

i agree with evrything this post says, now i havent yet finished reading this thread so i'll probrably edit this later to make another point, but yeah, in fact, i remember a few distinct parts of AO, tiny little details that didn't really get appreciated, but just made me love it ten times more, the effort! one of them was in scrabania and paramonia, on certain gamescreens you could see the temples, from miles away, also i remember a part on paramonia, there was a little windmill in the very far background on a hill, you could see it on about 3 different gamescreens, and it was just there, slowly turning, and for a platformer, i thought that was incredible (call me easy to please), just tiny things like that can really make a difference. and yeah, MO, was way to comical and kiddy, but like other people have said, i liked the few touches like sligs having idle chatter, and i think that would be cool for mudokon workers too, something like "Ugh, you call this a life?" and the other one says something like, "yeah well, there aint much we can do about it", things like that, but yeah, my ultimate point is the BG's, i remember even as a small kid looking at the backgrounds for ages just staring, stunned, please dont take that away like you did with MO.

so how about an easy, medium, hard, (and perhaps unlockable expert) mode? in the harder modes, you only get a certain number of quicksaves? which forces you to use them wisely? also, depending on how long the game is, if you complete it in under 3 hours or whatever, you unlock a mini game or achievement or both?

Easy - Unlimited Quicksaves, Unlimited Saves, Easy Difficulty, Autosave

Medium - Limited Quicksaves, Unlimited Saves, Slightly Harder Difficulty, Autosave

Hard - No Quicksave, Unlimited Saves, Hard Difficulty, No Autosave

Master - No Quicksave, Only Save At Certain Points In The Game, Very Hard Difficulty, No Autosave


and i know other people have done these before but i thought id add my little achievement thing.

also a few from Oddhunter

1. Learning - Save 15 mudokons

2. Archeologist - Uncover all the secret areas

3. Deadly Silence - Sneak through a whole screen where a slig is present without being noticed

4. Escapee - Complete the stockyards

5. Evil in waiting - Kill the maximum number of mudokons in Zulag 1 before the stockyards

6. Hero - Save the first 28 mudokons

7. Wizard - Possess 20 sligs

8. A Mudokon's best friend - use a slig to make a slog kill another slig

9. Trickster - Make a Scrab fall down a pit

10. One with nature - Complete Scrabania and Paramonia

11. Confidence - Return to Rupture Farms

12. Persistence - Backtrack back through Zulag 1 saving all the Mudokons

13. Get your hands dirty - Kill all the slogs at the end of Zulag 4

14. Bomb Disposal Expert - Disarm 15 UXB's

15. Twisted Firestarter - Detonate 50 grenades

16. Acrobatic - Jump 50 pits

17. Novice - Complete the game on easy

18. Apprentice - Complete the game on medium

19. Veteran - Complete the game on hard

20. Professional - Complete the game on master

21. The Risk - Complete the game without quicksaving

22. Freerunner - Complete the game in under 3 hours

23. Saviour - Save all 99 mudokons

24. Massacre - Kill the maximum of mudokons possible

25. Manly - Achieve the good ending on any difficulty



EDIT: oh cock, double post, sorry!

How on earth can the games have a difficulty level?

Not in terms of the quicksaves.

enemies react quicker, run faster, more meat saws and bombs, harder whistling passwords, stuf like that.

Sounds like a rubbish idea to me.

Apart from the limited quicksaves.

oh, cheers. but yeah, limited quicksaves i came up with whilst playing on Resident Evil, you can only save at certain points and if you have an Ink Ribbon. and idea i heard before on this thread was when you save a mudokon, you earn a quicksave, how about when you save 3 mudokons, you earn a quicksave?

How about...none of that happens? Wouldn't that be great?

well i guess we'll have to wait and see, they may do it, they probably won't, but whatever they do do, it will probably be great

No difficulty levels, unless it's to do with quicksaves, which I still think is a dodgy idea. You can't add more meatsaws and things in, imagine if they did that in the original games. The way Abe is designed perfectly, it just wouldn't work. Part of the reason Abe was such a masterpiece is the memorable scenes. That wouldn't be the same if you had 3 different versions of the game in your head.

I really don't like that idea with the mudokons. The first 2 Oddworld games manage to immerse the player to almost forget your playing a game because the story feels real, and it's mostly uninterrupted apart from loading screens and beautiful cinematics. A game mechanic like that would take away from the story and it would just feel like a dodgy thing that Abe is certainly above.

i don't think it would, there wouldn't be completely different versions of the game, or how about this, just the faster enemies and reaction times, and meat saws move faster? no, all i'm saying is is that don't put it in to keep people playing it over again, that will happen anyway, just so that the more experienced players can play again with more of a challenge

Adding difficulty levels, yet again, makes Oddworld seem like more of a game instead of a story. I'd rather play it how it is now (which is still hard as fuck) than there be an option to make it even harder.

but like i said, what about expert gamers that are looking for more of a challenge?

There is something about Oddworld games that makes me want to play them over and over again without becoming bored. If the HD remake lives up to the legacy left by Oddysee and Exoddus I wouldn't need petty difficulty levels to make me what to play the game more than once.

That wouldn't work, because each specific enemy has it's reaction times programmed to make the game possible to beat, for example, on parts where you need to make a Slig see you so he will chase you onto the screen, it wouldn't work with quicker reaction times because the player needs enough time for the Slig to see them and to escape from the screen.

i know that, but they wouldn't all have the same fast reaction times, theyd all be a tiny bit faster, not all the same.

A tiny bit faster?

Then it's just not worth it.

forget it

Maybe, like in Portal challenge rooms (more black walls, caged turrets...) there should be more security orbs, sligs don't explode, mudokons panicking when the alarms ring... idk

Oddworld isn't really a game where you can have a "difficulty level"

the more i think about it, the more i agree with you, you can't actually have a difficulty for it.

I have no idea whether this is possible or not, but I'd love it if JAW commissioned Ellen Meijers to do the music and audio for the remake.

yeah, the soundtracks from the first two games are unique, you'll never find music like that again, but i hope they bring it back for HD. when it is released, will this only be available digitally or on disc, or do we not know that yet?

Almost definitely digital only.

aww, man, thats bad news for me.

onto the topic at hand, what i've been wondering is what will they do with paramites, scrabs and slogs except change the size? sligs can definitely be improved (from scratch) but i don't see what else they can do with paramites ect except from improve the resolution, i don't really see the point in creating an entirely new model from scratch

They redid a Scrab model for MO but that was limited to the engine. With a new engine I'm sure they can make all the models even shinier.