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FennecFyre 04-15-2016 01:13 PM

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A Novel/Graphic Novel would be a great way to tell a story like Sligstorm.

I also vote for Oddworld graphic novels.

Crashpunk 04-15-2016 01:49 PM

I'm all for a Oddworld Comic book or graphic novel series.

There is no doubt Oddworld works best as a game, but I think a spin-off comic series could work too. It could be a great opportunity to learn more about the lore, and not have to focused on the main characters.

Scrabaniac 04-15-2016 02:20 PM

Even if it were produced like Nature Magazines or something.. Showing the wildlife, how the animals survive etc would be amazing

RuptureFarms1029 04-15-2016 02:23 PM

http://www.oddworld.com/2016/04/lorn...onsole-gaming/

Connell 04-15-2016 03:36 PM

Posted here: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=22235

kjjcarpenter 04-15-2016 04:51 PM

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There is no doubt Oddworld works best as a game, but I think a spin-off comic series could work too. It could be a great opportunity to learn more about the lore, and not have to focused on the main characters.

I'd agree that it's better visually, but I'd prefer the movies than the games. I just can't justify spending several hours to observe a fifteen minute story these days.

Xavier 04-15-2016 09:22 PM

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There is no doubt Oddworld works best as a game

Well we haven't seen anything else, so we can't really judge. ;)

Nepsotic 04-15-2016 11:21 PM

Oddworld: Prison Break (A Netflix Original)

Connell 04-16-2016 02:46 AM

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Oddworld: Prison Break (A Netflix Original)

Is it bad that the more I think about that, the more I want to see it?

Havoc 04-16-2016 03:57 AM

They changed the distorted picture on the Soulstorm website, it's now showing Abe's eyes. I have never been more freaked out in my life.

Alf Shall Rise 04-16-2016 04:15 AM

Jesus. Stop staring at me, Abe. Please.

SligValet 04-16-2016 04:36 AM

I dunno if its just me or if its just hard to tell, but his face shape looks very different - are they revamping mudokons/abes face shape perhaps? In that one updated mp4 of his face it looks like you can spot his mouth, and it looks alot closer to his eyes than normal, unless it is just the darkness playing tricks on me

Fatherbrain30 04-16-2016 06:47 AM

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I dunno if its just me or if its just hard to tell
I doubt it, I think that besides extra detail, he'll remain the same.

Crashpunk 04-16-2016 08:11 AM

I don't think they would change Abe's face too much. They'll properly just revamp his textures giving him new details like cuts and scars, just like his Hand and Chest.

I'm very excited to finally see it though. OWI must be close.

Connell 04-16-2016 10:21 AM




Looks like Frima Studios are recruiting for Soulstorm. Was it strange of me to think that they had people in place already? With the marketing campaign and ARG and such I've felt like they were fairly further down the road.

kjjcarpenter 04-16-2016 11:02 AM

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Looks like Frima Studios are recruiting for Soulstorm. Was it strange of me to think that they had people in place already? With the marketing campaign and ARG and such I've felt like they were fairly further down the road.

Would these be extra positions, or would this constitute a core part of the team? I'm not familiar with the size of game design firms. i.e. Could there be a large team already working on the game?

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Abe l'extraterrestre
Abe the Alien. I find that mildly amusing.

Calling vlam: Is that an accurate translation?

Xavier 04-16-2016 11:37 AM

Yeah "extraterrestre" is French for "extraterrestrial".

I guess technically they are right.

Nate 04-16-2016 03:59 PM

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What do you think the chances are of "Sligstorm" (as in the fabled albino slig game) being released as DLC to the new game?

Seems like a plausible possibility to me.

Vlam 04-17-2016 03:04 PM

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Seems like a plausible possibility to me.

Why?

HOMINIX 04-17-2016 09:39 PM

As long as they have crawling and flying sligs, I'd agree that it's plausible. They already have the idea for the rough storyline, clearly several fans would love it (being sold on the idea already), and they already would have all the controllable slig types from the base game! That would be great IMO, and I think it could potentially earn them some nice profit if they decide to make it paid DLC

Nate 04-17-2016 10:50 PM

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Why?

NnT has DLC, so it makes sense that Soulstorm would also have DLC.

Sligstorm was originally meant to be a bonus game that came out in a box set with AO and AE. It makes sense that it would come as DLC after both of those games were remade.

Also, the titles Soulstorm and Sligstorm go well together.

Vlam 04-18-2016 09:49 AM

Nate, Lanning had more than one chance to release the game. What we know of the DLC so far (if it's like Alf's Escape): Abe is a playable character and it must be connected to the main plot. Which means SoulStorm's DLC could be set during AE or between AE and MO. To my knowledge, Sligstorm is a side story and the Slig isn't one of the heroes of the Quintology.

Connell 04-18-2016 10:13 AM

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Nate, Lanning had more than one chance to release the game.

When? Apart from the initial release window (that had to be abandoned) when was there ever a feasible time in OWI to release a game that was inteneded to mirror the 2D gameplay of the first 2 games, and was even intended to be built on the same engine? Now seems like the only time that it's been right and feasible to release the game, albeit upgraded from the original design. DLC didn't really exist at the time, and I think it fits Lorne's idea for Sligstorm perfectly; an extra smaller game to compliment the main 2 in the game series.

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What we know of the DLC so far (if it's like Alf's Escape): Abe is a playable character and it must be connected to the main plot. Which means SoulStorm's DLC could be set during AE or between AE and MO. To my knowledge, Sligstorm is a side story and the Slig isn't one of the heroes of the Quintology.

We know nothing of the DLC, so far. It could be absolutely anything, or nothing. But if I had to bet on something that would be considered likely to be DLC, I'd feel fairly safe putting my money on Sligstorm.

Vlam 04-18-2016 10:27 AM

Connell, two things:

1. According to the Oddworld Encyclopedia, the idea of Sligstorm was pitched by Paul O'Connor. My point: Lanning wants to make other games (like Fangus) instead of Sligstorm (which could have been the DLC of NnT).

2. I mean, based on the first and only DLC so far (Alf's Escape). You ignored the fact that Abe is the playable character (and connected to the main plot). I agree with you: it could be anything. According to this idea, it could be something different than Sligstorm.

Connell 04-18-2016 11:16 AM

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Connell, two things:

1. According to the Oddworld Encyclopedia, the idea of Sligstorm was pitched by Paul O'Connor. My point: Lanning wants to make other games (like Fangus) instead of Sligstorm (which could have been the DLC of NnT).

I don't know where you're getting this fact that "Lanning wants to make other games" from. Sligstorm is an entirely different type of project that Fangus (as you used in your example); Sligstorm is an add-on, not a full length game like Fangus would be. And I'm fairly sure the last word on Sligstorm was that they would like to revisit it in the future.

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2. I mean, based on the first and only DLC so far (Alf's Escape). You ignored the fact that Abe is the playable character (and connected to the main plot). I agree with you: it could be anything. According to this idea, it could be something different than Sligstorm.

You're right; it is the only DLC ever. That's like seeing one film and assuming every single one is going to follow a similar narrative. You can't judge all DLC after only seeing one. I know that DLC feature Abe is likely, but my point is I don't think you can base any assumptions about future DLC on it, which is what you were doing. I know you agree it could be anything, but your original point was we should base our expectations on Alf's Escape, which I don't think holds up for reasons I just said.

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According to this idea, it could be something different than Sligstorm.

You are correct, however Sligstorm is a known project that they have previously worked on in some small way, that fits onto the end of Exoddus, and is a mini game very similar to a DLC package. For those reasons, I'd say it's likely :)

Nepsotic 04-18-2016 12:21 PM

Lanning doesn't want to make Fangus anymore. Pretty sure it became Stranger and that satisfied his western thirst.

kjjcarpenter 04-18-2016 12:37 PM

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Lanning doesn't want to make Fangus anymore. Pretty sure it became Stranger and that satisfied his western thirst.

Isn't Fangus supposed to be Eastern-European?

I agree with what vlam is saying, though. Lorne seems more interested with auxiliary stories than the main Quintology.

Holy Sock 04-18-2016 01:12 PM

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Lanning doesn't want to make Fangus anymore. Pretty sure it became Stranger and that satisfied his western thirst.

Really? Didn't he say he was seriously working on Fangus during or before NnT's production?

Also Fangus was supposed to be the next OWI game after Stranger. The art team was given a bit more autonomy and they took the designs away from Oddworld and made it more human. Lorne even said they would reutnr to the more original Oddworld design if production ever started again.

Fatherbrain30 04-18-2016 02:00 PM

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Lanning doesn't want to make Fangus anymore. Pretty sure it became Stranger and that satisfied his western thirst.
He literally said he still wanted to do that just recently.

Connell 04-18-2016 03:36 PM

Can I just point out my main point was that Lorne would want to do Sligstorm for DlC because it's an auxillary story and not the main quintology

JayDee 04-18-2016 05:18 PM

I feel as though for us specifically - the depraved and malnourished Oddworld fanbase - arguing over the DLC for a game that's yet to get a launch date is a bit of a moot point.

If it's an Abe controlled add on like Alf's Escape then great it's a nice little extension that's a bit more challenging than the vanilla game, good shit. If it's playing a completely new character as expected in Sligstorm then great it's a nice little extension that's a bit different to the vanilla game, good shit.

Basically I'd throw my money at OWI regardless.

Nate 04-18-2016 10:40 PM

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...Sligstorm (which could have been the DLC of NnT).

I agree with what Connell and others have responded, so I won't repeat their points. I'll just respond to this little parenthesis: Sligstorm couldn't have been the DLC of NnT. Alf's Escape was set in Rupturefarms. It used already built assets and AI. SligStorm is set in the Slig Barracks. They'd have to build entirely new art and systems to make it work. Makes much more sense to release SligStorm after most of that work had been done to produce Soulstorm.

Nepsotic 04-18-2016 10:44 PM

Plus it makes sense that Soulstorm would have DLC. If that's the case then it would make sense to assume it would be Sligstorm.

Vlam 04-19-2016 12:10 AM

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SligStorm is set in the Slig Barracks.

What is the source of this information?

Wil 04-19-2016 04:41 AM

The story pitched by Paul O'Connor was set in a Slig Birthing Complex[1], not the Slig Barracks. I think the confusion is because Paul compared the size of the proposed game to the size of the Slig Barracks levels.

But consider that was one pitch 17 years ago. The premise of 'albino Slig fights persecution' has evolved a lot in that time. There's no reason to confine it to existing sets. The only thing that's been set in stone is that the poor chump is sitting there in Alf's bar.

Nate 04-19-2016 09:02 PM

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The story pitched by Paul O'Connor was set in a Slig Birthing Complex[1], not the Slig Barracks. I think the confusion is because Paul compared the size of the proposed game to the size of the Slig Barracks levels.

Oh, okay. I'd assume that the birthing complex would reuse some assets from the barracks, though.

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The only thing that's been set in stone is that the poor chump is sitting there in Alf's bar.

Which means that Sligstorm is set before NnT, if the albino Slig has managed to escape the birthing complex?

Havoc 04-19-2016 11:49 PM

The Slig sitting in Alf's bar is an albino? I didn't notice that, and looking at a screenshot it's still pretty hard to tell.

Vlam 04-19-2016 11:58 PM

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The Slig sitting in Alf's bar is an albino? I didn't notice that, and looking at a screenshot it's still pretty hard to tell.

You didn't know?...

Apparently, some people don't see what is the problem with the slig as a playable character. I will explain why. In AO, AE and Nnt, here's what you can do:

1. Kill sligs.
2. Kill slogs.
3. Tell a slog to kill a slig.
4. Voice locks.

So basically you do the same thing all the time. It's fun because it doesn't last long. Imagine a DLC based on that. You might say: "what about a slig+?". In that case, they can't use the gameplay of SoulStorm which means more time and money (only for a DLC).

ODDREN 04-20-2016 12:20 AM

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The Slig sitting in Alf's bar is an albino? I didn't notice that, and looking at a screenshot it's still pretty hard to tell.

Please, give a link to that screen!

Vlam 04-20-2016 12:25 AM

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showth...t=22141&page=2