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used:) 08-13-2009 04:14 PM

Those are just two lines. The entire "religion" places emphasis on being self-centered.

Nemo 08-13-2009 05:05 PM

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Ahhh, the douchey hardcoreness makes sense.

YEEEEEEEEEEEAH I'M FUCKIN' HARDCORE AN' SHIT, BRO. DON'T TRY TO FUCKIN' MESS WITH ME.

Mac Sirloin 08-13-2009 05:07 PM

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When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

Which somewhat contradicts:
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Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

in that you would not have to subject yourself to the destroying if you hadn't subjected yourself to the whole walking in open territory business.

Now, it's a given that the Bible has people killed and people killing other people all over the place, plenty of which is up to interpretation in having some deeper meaning, but let's pretend that it's just people killing.
Now, just because a book TALKS about selling drugs, does that it's telling you that you should? Of course not.

And, obviously, there's the Ten Commandments.
Here's the basic version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_com...d_in_Exodus_20
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You shall not murder

But, just to make sure you see it:
YOU SHALL NOT MURDER

It can't really be any clearer. Whereas the Nega-Bible or whatever you quoted tells you to 'destroy' someone who doesn't leave you alone if you ask them to (Because what kind of reasonable jerkwad walks away from a conflict, amirite?) The Bible (and I'm aware of how preachy this sounds, believe me) tells you to turn the other cheek regardless. Or, Y'know, walk away.


You know what really pisses me off about this, though? You're not going to acknowledge the validity of the statements I posted. Or the fact that you sound like one of those people that walks around in a trench coat and spiked hair thinking (with skinny little shit-arms in your pockets) that you know everything.

Nope, you're just going to continue to be an argumentative bumblefuck thinking it's okay to fuck animals. I'm sure you're going to live a long, happy life.

Daxter King 08-13-2009 05:25 PM

I was planning on not posting in this thread since the recent arguments going on in here. But fuck Havoc, how the fuck are you so fucking ignorant to something you so strongly oppose? Also, Kastere has been hitting the nail on the head as usual.

Nate 08-13-2009 06:10 PM

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You know who also condemned the hurting of animals? Hitler.

You're just trying to get me to close this thread under Chapter 6, Article 4 of Godwin's Law. Well, I'm afraid that Quirk's Exception will need to be taken in to account in this case.

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By it's dictum mostly. Unlike the bible which tells you to kill someone every two pages, the satanic rules have more rules about what not to kill. Also the situations where you are allowed to kill someone make perfect sense to me, as opposed to the reasons stated in the bible.

Except that the Satanic bible thing was written in response to the bible and in such a way as the followers could attempt to hold the moral high ground. Thus any example will, in and of itself, be irrelevant to any discussion of ethical value.

Nemo 08-13-2009 06:28 PM

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Which somewhat contradicts:

in that you would not have to subject yourself to the destroying if you hadn't subjected yourself to the whole walking in open territory business.

Only if you complain about it.

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Now, just because a book TALKS about selling drugs, does that it's telling you that you should? Of course not.
Except for the parts where God tells you to kill sinners and all that shit.

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YOU SHALL NOT MURDER
There is a difference between Murder and Kill. You are allowed to kill people who are to be punished by death.*

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Whereas the Nega-Bible or whatever you quoted tells you to 'destroy' someone who doesn't leave you alone if you ask them to (Because what kind of reasonable jerkwad walks away from a conflict, amirite?)
You may believe in turning the other cheek, but we believe in treating someone in the same manner that they treat you.

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You know what really pisses me off about this, though? You're not going to acknowledge the validity of the statements I posted. Or the fact that you sound like one of those people that walks around in a trench coat and spiked hair thinking (with skinny little shit-arms in your pockets) that you know everything.
I don't think I know everything, I know it!

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Nope, you're just going to continue to be an argumentative bumblefuck thinking it's okay to fuck animals.
Sorry for thinking differently from you.

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I'm sure you're going to GET MAULED BY A FUCKING TIGER
I'd never annoy anything that could kill me. Nor would I ever intentionally harm an animal that didn't pose an immediate threat.

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Except that the Satanic bible thing was written in response to the bible and in such a way as the followers could attempt to hold the moral high ground. Thus any example will, in and of itself, be irrelevant to any discussion of ethical value.

"that dosnt mater!"

And whether you like it or not, Satanism is a religion.


*Note: I don't know how to word this correctly. If someone is judged to be punished by death, and you to be the killer, than you are not breaking any rules with that someone by killing them.

Havoc 08-13-2009 06:49 PM

Lol, can't I make one silly comment around this place without it blowing up in my face? Seriously. Like I care about some Satanic religion, I was just saying that I heard the rules somewhere and liked them better then the bible's.

Anyway

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I was planning on not posting in this thread since the recent arguments going on in here. But fuck Havoc, how the fuck are you so fucking ignorant to something you so strongly oppose? Also, Kastere has been hitting the nail on the head as usual.
Can I just dissect that first part? How can I be so unknowing to something I find very very wrong?

First of all I'm not unknowing about the subject, I'm probably the most educated person on this forum regarding this matter. Second, I don't oppose it at all. What the hell are you on about?

And Kastere hasn't been hitting anything on the head but himself. I am fully capable of respecting someone else's opinion but not if it goes 'Nananananana I can't hear what you're saying! I'm right and you're wrong! Lalalala!'. Because that's basically what he does. Oh I'm referring to him in the third person, how rude.

Kastere, let me say this. I fully understand and respect that you find zoophilia disgusting. It's a natural reaction to something like that which I don't blame you for. However there have been multiple times in the topic where people have tried to explain what exactly zoophilia is and all you do is skip what they wrote and reply: "Fuck you! That's not true! You're wrong and I'm right!".
Even ignoring the topic of dogfucking altogether, you're just being childish. If you want to claim that someone is wrong then it would be nice to have some reasons as to why exactly he's wrong. But if all you can do is say I'm wrong in my opinion then please GTFO because you're not worth talking to.

Mac Sirloin 08-13-2009 07:27 PM

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Only if you complain about it.
Except for the parts where God tells you to kill sinners and all that shit.
There is a difference between Murder and Kill. You are allowed to kill people who are to be punished by death.*
You may believe in turning the other cheek, but we believe in treating someone in the same manner that they treat you.
I don't think I know everything, I know it!
Sorry for thinking differently from you.
I'd never annoy anything that could kill me. Nor would I ever intentionally harm an animal that didn't pose an immediate threat.
"that dosnt mater!"

And whether you like it or not, Satanism is a religion.


*Note: I don't know how to word this correctly. If someone is judged to be punished by death, and you to be the killer, than you are not breaking any rules with that someone by killing them.

Why do you keep interjecting into conversations that aren't directed at you, making vague statements about your beliefs, and vanishing into the night? You're completely entitled to share your opinion, of course, but nothing that I wrote there had anything to do with you. It seems less like you're sharing opinions and more just seeing who you can antagonize.

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And Kastere hasn't been hitting anything on the head but himself. I am fully capable of respecting someone else's opinion but not if it goes 'Nananananana I can't hear what you're saying! I'm right and you're wrong! Lalalala!'. Because that's basically what he does. Oh I'm referring to him in the third person, how rude.

Do I? Hm. I figured reading what people say and responding to it with what I thought was a discussion. Do I insult people? Well, yeah. That's my bag. It seems less like you're calling me childish because of the points I made and more so because you're just grasping at straws at this point.

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Kastere, let me say this. I fully understand and respect that you find zoophilia disgusting.

You certainly aren't showing it. You've shown that you kind of half-acknowledge why I think it's sick and then start defending it.

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It's a natural reaction to something like that which I don't blame you for. However there have been multiple times in the topic where people have tried to explain what exactly zoophilia is and all you do is skip what they wrote and reply: "Fuck you! That's not true! You're wrong and I'm right!".

So I have to say "thank you for very clearly explaining you are attracted to animals and think that it's okay to sexually abuse them"?
It sounds like you think I don't understand because I disagree with the entire concept of Zoophilia. I comprehend what it is and what "Zoophiles" think it is, what you're not getting is that my reaction isn't some bitch-fest bandwagon. You respect that I find it disgusting? Don't make me laugh.


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Even ignoring the topic of dogfucking altogether, you're just being childish.

So...I'm being childish for no reason? What are you talking about?

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If you want to claim that someone is wrong then it would be nice to have some reasons as to why exactly he's wrong. But if all you can do is say I'm wrong in my opinion then please GTFO because you're not worth talking to.

Having sex with animals is wrong because they cannot fully comprehend a whole lot beyond instinct. Having sex with dogs is wrong because, drumroll please, they're animals.

Having sex with animals because you're mourning your Wife and Child is also wrong. It's a shame that he lost his family and, to be honest, I feel for him in that department, but that's more or less completely dwarfed by my revulsion at how he dealt with it.

The thing is, we're both on the opposite side of the field here. He claims to be some globetrotting super researcher getting the true news on Zoophilia, and I'm someone who thinks that having sex with with (dare I say it?) a lesser species is wrong.

Yeah, it happens in the animal kingdom. BM mentioned toads fucking each other with much gusto. However, the thing about wild animals is that they're more or less meaty robots. They react how they remember to react, how their ancestors reacted. There are exceptions, many of which are mammals, but the point remains that having sex with an animal is wrong.

Now, before I go further, let me explain that I'm not saying this because "God wills it". That's a bullshit argument and has about as much relevance as the whole Hitler bit. I'm saying it because it qualifies as abuse and I'm exasperated that people think they can justify it.

There, I made my point without calling anyone a bumblefuck.

Nemo 08-13-2009 07:44 PM

Or maybe I just went to bed and you kept talking and I woke the fuck up.

Anonyman! 08-13-2009 08:01 PM

His typing woke you up? watchu talkin bout nemo

Mac Sirloin 08-13-2009 08:02 PM

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Or maybe I just went to bed and you kept talking and I woke the fuck up.

Sorry, I just don't get if you're baiting us or just dicking around. I'll make a lsight effort to be less of a dick.

Also, mitsur kind of predicted this:
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...I don't think about f***ing my dog or whatever.

2,500th post.

Daxter King 08-13-2009 08:15 PM

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Can I just dissect that first part? How can I be so unknowing to something I find very very wrong?

First of all I'm not unknowing about the subject, I'm probably the most educated person on this forum regarding this matter. Second, I don't oppose it at all. What the hell are you on about?

I was referring to you saying the Bible tells you to kill every two pages, and that Satanism has better morals than the bible. For someone who opposes Christianity, and religion in general from what I gather, you sure don't seem to know alot about it.

Anonyman! 08-13-2009 08:30 PM

http://zip.4chan.org/tg/src/1250221535705.jpg

What about pedozoophilia? YOUR WIENER DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS WIENER

Daxter King 08-13-2009 08:34 PM

Pretty sure if you put a penis in that dog it would kill it.

Mac Sirloin 08-13-2009 08:43 PM

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Pretty sure if you put a penis in that dog it would replace it.

Fix'd
For me, at least. My penis has been described as "Very much like the entire body of a dog" by trillions of pleased women.

Daxter King 08-13-2009 08:49 PM

Damn, trillions? That is more than the Earth's population! You stud, you.

Mac Sirloin 08-13-2009 09:15 PM

My penis is a time lord.

used:) 08-13-2009 09:18 PM

EJACULATE! EJACULATE!

alf's brother's mate 08-14-2009 12:26 AM

A veiny triumphant one!

Wait a second, if you fucked all of the women on Earth, and there are only 3 billion... what other 997 hundred billion creatures did you fuck? I THOUGHT YOU WERE AGAINST ZOOPHILIA YOU CONTRADICTORY TURD!

ABM

MA 08-14-2009 06:02 AM

cant we all just get along?

first i need someone to explain Oddworld thing for OANST.

OANST 08-14-2009 06:48 AM

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And whether you like it or not, Satanism is a religion.

I understand that it is legally a religion. However, by description it is a philosophy. You have no creation story, believe in no gods, worship nothing as a higher being. Even your belief in the supernatural is flimsy. The Church of Satan doesn't necessarily believe that magic exists, but one of it's rules is that if you practice magic and it works, you can't deny that it worked.

It is merely an excuse for douchebags to dress up, get together, and feel good about being smarter than the Christians.

With that being said, I agree with many points of the philosophy. But that's because much of it is common sense. Much like the 10 Commandments.

Mac Sirloin 08-14-2009 07:13 AM

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A veiny triumphant one!

Wait a second, if you fucked all of the women on Earth, and there are only 3 billion... what other 997 hundred billion creatures did you fuck? I THOUGHT YOU WERE AGAINST ZOOPHILIA YOU CONTRADICTORY TURD!

ABM

Magic.
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I understand that it is legally a religion. However, by description it is a philosophy. You have no creation story, believe in no gods, worship nothing as a higher being. Even your belief in the supernatural is flimsy. The Church of Satan doesn't necessarily believe that magic exists, but one of it's rules is that if you practice magic and it works, you can't deny that it worked.

It is merely an excuse for douchebags to dress up, get together, and feel good about being smarter than the Christians.

With that being said, I agree with many points of the philosophy. But that's because much of it is common sense. Much like the 10 Commandments.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Anonyman! 08-14-2009 08:36 AM

Kastere traveled to other planets and fucked other intelligent life.


WHICH IS OKAY

used:) 08-14-2009 08:41 AM

Or perhaps jizzing in primordial soups, planting seeds for an army to aid him in conquering the galaxy one day.

Bullet Magnet 08-14-2009 08:59 AM

That bump a few miles back? Must have been the old rails.

Nemo 08-14-2009 09:17 AM

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I understand that it is legally a religion.

Sorry, the word is "actually."

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However, by description it is a philosophy. You have no creation story, believe in no gods, worship nothing as a higher being.
None of which are required for a religion.



And yes. Scotsmen can eat sugar with their porridge.

Mac Sirloin 08-14-2009 09:34 AM

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Or perhaps jizzing in primordial soups, planting seeds for an army to aid him in conquering the galaxy one day.

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Kastere traveled to other planets and fucked other intelligent life.


WHICH IS OKAY

I said I traveled through time how is this not clear.

shaman 08-14-2009 09:36 AM

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None of which are required for a religion.

This may be true, since religion is simply an organised approach to human spirituality, usually but not necessarily involving a system of symbols and practices.

well that's one of the google definitions anyways :tard:

OANST 08-14-2009 09:48 AM

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Sorry, the word is "actually."


None of which are required for a religion.



And yes. Scotsmen can eat sugar with their porridge.

Actually. It kind of is. Lacking those things, you are left with merely a philosophy.

Nemo 08-14-2009 09:50 AM

All religions are philosophies.