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Havoc 03-18-2016 09:34 AM

If they remake MO it's going to get the same treatment as Exoddus/Soulstorm anyway, but on an even larger scale. Any remake of MO is probably not even going to be recognizable as such.

Varrok 03-18-2016 09:36 AM

But I don't want them to ruin MO's atmosphere by making it overly goofy.

oh wait

JayDee 03-18-2016 11:41 AM

I wonder what's going on with Abe's scars, like yeah he worked in a meat processing plant but those stitch marks look pretty Phre$h fresh.

abe619 03-18-2016 03:00 PM

The tattoos look alot more industrial than tribal now, you can almost see places for bolts to go in even.

Nepsotic 03-18-2016 03:59 PM

The scars on his body look pretty bad. They look more like open wounds than scar tissue.

Scrabaniac 03-18-2016 04:04 PM

I hope he doesn't have too many on his face

Michael 03-18-2016 04:23 PM

I was thinking that too. For me, it makes sense on his hands- he was a cleaner working in a factory with dangerous machinery. Let's face it, the hands would be the first thing to go!

But seeing the deep scars on the shoulders, for example, I'm a little concerned there's a concerted effort for, shall we say, more obvious grit? Like, for the sake of being darker, covering him in terrible scarring just to prove a point.

Can you imagine? 'Scars! Deep ones everywhere! People need to be able to see how much he's been through! Ooh ooh, and he's got an eye missing! And a dent in his head from having part of the skull caved in!'

I jest, I don't think it'll be that severe ;) However I will say that too much detail for the sake of it might be a bit of a detriment, and it'd be a shame if he ended up looking too different from the Abe we know and love.

Scrabaniac 03-18-2016 04:36 PM

I can kinda understand scars on Abe's body if he were beaten up by countless Sligs whilst working in Rupturefarms.

Manco 03-18-2016 04:52 PM

Abe has his chest tattoo in the Soulstorm renders, so he has at the very least endured the Necrum trials (assuming Necrum is still in the new story) as well.

Michael 03-18-2016 05:34 PM

I can totally understand the (non tribal) scarring from a narrative point of view, undoubtedly it makes sense considering his ordeals :) however, I'm not sure I want to see it? I'll reserve judgement until I see the full thing! It's personal preference after all, and within reason it could look quite cool.

But there's always a suspension of disbelief in these things. To me, Oddworld has always had dark themes and absurdly dark settings, juxtaposed with comedic and honestly quite innocent characters. In my opinion, making Abe himself grittier, in terms of design or character, might lose some of that appeal.

V_O_T 03-18-2016 06:22 PM

Looks wicked. Why do I feel like his expression is what will make or break the theme of soulstorm?

But so far I'm digging it. A lot.

Nate 03-18-2016 07:19 PM

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The big twist's gonna be they aren't born from eggs. They copulate like humans.

These things aren't mutually exclusive.

I now pronounce it official OWF fanon: Mudokons are monotremes!

32degrees 03-18-2016 08:23 PM

:fuzconf:Do you think they'll add more mudokens like they did in NnT? Or do you guys think it be to many, like imagine how hard it would be to 100% a speed run with some crazy number of muds like 500

Nate 03-18-2016 09:05 PM

The reason why they added more muds to NnT is because they'd also added the 'All y'all' gamespeak command. It always was in AE, so the gameplay matches it already.

Nepsotic 03-19-2016 05:12 AM

You guys don't see my point. I'm not talking about whether or not the scars make sense being where they are, I'm saying they don't look like scars. They look like deep cuts that have only just stopped bleeding.

Havoc 03-19-2016 05:18 AM

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You guys don't see my point. I'm not talking about whether or not the scars make sense being where they are, I'm saying they don't look like scars. They look like deep cuts that have only just stopped bleeding.

Well, he did just come back from surviving out in the wilderness for a day, being chased by Scrabs and Paramites, rolling and running over rocks and wood, making his way back through the free fire zone which is probably full of barbed wire, dodging heavy machinery inside a huge safety hazard of a factory and was caught by the Sligs, hung above a meat grinder and barely got out alive. The abuse his body went through is sort of to be expected. And if these renders are from after getting the chest scar, it would also mean he was hurled out by the Necrum Mines explosion.

Nepsotic 03-19-2016 05:23 AM

Again they wouldn't look like that. It's obvious that these are supposed to be scars but they just look weird.

Crashpunk 03-19-2016 05:26 AM

Perhaps they'll be more obvious when we see the new Abe model fully textured.

Scrabaniac 03-19-2016 05:33 AM

If they were scars the skin would be slightly raised right? I mean i have a few scars and they definitely don't look like the model.

Nepsotic 03-19-2016 05:38 AM

Yeah scar tissue looks completely different.

Michael 03-19-2016 05:46 AM

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If they were scars the skin would be slightly raised right? I mean i have a few scars and they definitely don't look like the model.

Was just about to say this, you're correct. The scars on Abe seem more fissure-like, like open wounds. Yet the stitches have clearly been removed, implying what we see is healed, to a certain extent.

What if they appear over time? Do you think it would be a good idea if they implemented a system where Abe shows more and more damage as the game progresses (like Batman's suit in the Arkham games)?

Holy Sock 03-19-2016 06:52 AM

I'm sure it's not outside the realm of possibility. They could also be relatively recent and not healed entirely. Perhaps the stitching was poorly done? Or since he's a malnourished slave he doesn't heal properly?

Edit: Can't get it to work. It's halfway down this article

I mean it's a slightly more exaggerated version of this type of scar.

STM 03-19-2016 06:53 AM

Guys this is just a model or whatever, we don't know at what point in the game this model will be featured in. Maybe it's right at the end, maybe it's right at the start, the point is you don't know what Abe has been through to reach the point this model will be used for.

Vlam 03-19-2016 07:04 AM

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Guys this is just a model or whatever, we don't know at what point in the game this model will be featured in. Maybe it's right at the end, maybe it's right at the start, the point is you don't know what Abe has been through to reach the point this model will be used for.

Party pooper, we still have the right to speculate. There may actually be an ARG.

Holy Sock 03-19-2016 07:13 AM

In the Eurogamer interview Lorne said they're basically rewriting the entire Exoddus script but keeping the concepts they liked.

Link

Alf Shall Rise 03-19-2016 07:17 AM

To add onto the whole scar issue, I also think they look a little weird but I don't think it's too big of a deal since it's not like we'll be seeing them up close that much during the game. Or at all, really.

scorptatious 03-19-2016 07:20 AM

While NNT was a good game overall, I do feel it kinda missed the mark on a couple places looking back.

So far, I'm kinda intrigued at the direction they're trying to go with this. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Vlam 03-19-2016 07:26 AM

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In the Eurogamer interview Lorne said they're basically rewriting the entire Exoddus script but keeping the concepts they liked.

Link

"So New 'n' Tasty was basically the remake of Abe's Exoddus".

Nepsotic 03-19-2016 08:08 AM

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In the Eurogamer interview Lorne said they're basically rewriting the entire Exoddus script but keeping the concepts they liked.

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I thought this was a good interview. Lorne actually said a few interesting things that he hasn't talked about before and he seems more enthusiastic than usual.

That being said, the interviewer was quite annoying. He reminded me of Crashpunk except audible.

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Guys this is just a model or whatever, we don't know at what point in the game this model will be featured in. Maybe it's right at the end, maybe it's right at the start, the point is you don't know what Abe has been through to reach the point this model will be used for.

Except it's pretty clear that they wanted to cover him in scars. They really don't look like scars and it brings down the entire model.

Holy Sock 03-19-2016 08:14 AM

He has plenty of regular scars, Nep. If I were to make a not scientific guess I'd say those two big scars are more relatively recent depressed scars.

In fact, it's only that one on his shoulder. The one under his arm looks like a normal scar.