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Varrok 02-07-2017 02:20 PM

Did we cheat? All I know the clear images suddenly popped, and some people claimed it's because of the detectives.

GlitterPanther 02-07-2017 02:21 PM

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Oh, I see. I think it might be new, and it was added when we got to the picture #2 page – the quotes that are appearing are the same ones that I highlighted earlier in this thread.

So: it’s new, and was added for picture #2, and retroactively to the page for picture #1.

I cant seem to recreate it :/
And it was only after I posted HERE that the page was still active...

artemisbot 02-07-2017 02:22 PM

Cheating is subjective! But it does seem to be my fault...

Manco 02-07-2017 02:25 PM

I think regardless of the images being available on the page, they weren’t meant to be found so quickly – possibly they were mistakenly on the list of images to randomly select, or possibly they wanted us to discover them slowly. Either way, when they saw there was bruteforcing in play, they clamped down on it. It’s safe to assume that bruteforcing is out of bounds for future puzzles.

dawlthy 02-07-2017 02:25 PM

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Did we cheat? All I know the clear images suddenly popped, and some people claimed it's because of the detectives.

From what I can tell (I only started on the gamedetectives discord just before it all kicked off) not really, we didn't find anything that we wouldn't have found with lots of people looking at the same page over and over. Artemisbot just wrote a script to refresh the page multiple times and look for new images each time.

Seems not to be what OWI wanted though

Varrok 02-07-2017 02:26 PM

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Cheating is subjective! But it does seem to be my fault...

Well, he was already being tortured before the clear pictures were found.

I wouldn't hold you responsible :fuzgrin:

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Artemisbot just wrote a script to refresh the page multiple times and look for new images each time.
That's not cheating. Cheating imho would be something like e.g. getting unauthorized access to the FTP

OWI_Alex 02-07-2017 02:28 PM

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I think regardless of the images being available on the page, they weren’t meant to be found so quickly – possibly they were mistakenly on the list of images to randomly select, or possibly they wanted us to discover them slowly. Either way, when they saw there was bruteforcing in play, they clamped down on it. It’s safe to assume that bruteforcing is out of bounds for future puzzles.

I think it's fair to say we'd much rather foster communities working and discussing anything on the site together than have a machine blast at the page. :)

Let's assume that everything on the page was in rotation, but let's also assume that there was a key in knowing how many times you had to refresh to push out a clean version, which might have proved helpful along the way...

Nothing we can really do about that now, it appears the remaining clean images have vanished, and Asset 98 appears to have fallen victim to another kind of machine. :D

Varrok 02-07-2017 02:31 PM

You shouldn't blame them for taking the opportunities.

Xavier 02-07-2017 02:32 PM

Direct link to the pictures :)

http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...1_HEND8243.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...2_BSJG2456.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...3_INFG2861.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...4_HBQD2962.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...5_SJKW4167.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...6_OWUI2056.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...7_MNCH1101.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...8_RDHRHAHA.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...9_D34DM337.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...0_BDJW8411.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...1_WHAT8291.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...2_PADAPADA.jpg
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...3_VLAP3662.jpg

artemisbot 02-07-2017 02:32 PM

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Let's assume that everything on the page was in rotation, but let's also assume that there was a key in knowing how many times you had to refresh to push out a clean version, which might have proved helpful along the way...

I believe the clean images were time-locked since those of us searching for images got them at the same time - no. of refreshes had no effect.
E: Oh lol, didn't realise you were an OWI employee :P

OWI_Alex 02-07-2017 02:33 PM

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I believe the clean images were time-locked since those of us searching for images got them at the same time - no. of refreshes had no effect.

Yes it did. It's just that the site cached each page for a little while. :)

cdgoodwill 02-07-2017 02:33 PM

Can someone solve the 3rd picture please? It's the last one

Manco 02-07-2017 02:36 PM

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Nothing we can really do about that now, it appears the remaining clean images have vanished, and Asset 98 appears to have fallen victim to another kind of machine. :D

So, we’re just going to have to make do with the scrambled pictures then? Perhaps the clean images will be leaked again another time.

dawlthy 02-07-2017 02:43 PM

Not really, theyre all saved here
http://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index...orld_Soulstorm

below the non-clean (unclean?) images

GlitterPanther 02-07-2017 02:44 PM

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I don’t recall this, which old page?


Finally got it!

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C4GMYaFUYAA7q8j.jpg

Xavier 02-07-2017 02:47 PM

That's WB8 right?
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...8_RDHRHAHA.jpg

Also it looks like the Mudokon in the full picture is about to get his eyes sewn shut :/

Manco 02-07-2017 02:51 PM

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Not really, theyre all saved here
http://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index...orld_Soulstorm

below the non-clean (unclean?) images

Yeah, but I don’t think we’re going to be able to use them to advance the ARG any more.


Well, it shows 1029 look up to Alf as well as Abe. I think those pieces of text are just for flavor however.

PenguinX45654 02-07-2017 03:20 PM

Wow, I forget to check all day and then all this happens! It was really scary reading those posts as I suddenly realised what was going while I was reading and hoping my assumptions were untrue. This is getting really scary!

Just trying to find something I can start to work out, not great at ciphers and it looks like there has been loads of that at the moment. May have to wait until Image 3 starts as I have a headache at the moment :( Still it's great to see so much discussion and progress.

Manco 02-07-2017 03:22 PM



It looks like the clean images are fair game then?

OWI_Alex 02-07-2017 03:24 PM

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It looks like the clean images are fair game then?

Of course!

GlitterPanther 02-07-2017 03:24 PM

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It looks like the clean images are fair game then?

Thier saying we have to solve the last puzzle to prove we are worth, the one with the grid

EDIT maybe not

Manco 02-07-2017 03:29 PM

I think that what we need to do is take apart the images, and assemble the photos inside them into a grid that shows the original image as clearly as possible. Then, we send that to OWI so they can clean it up for us.

Gunnr 02-07-2017 03:35 PM

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Oh hey guys how's ...oh........O.0 ah, bu....WHA?!
Ed? Ed? No.

Aw COMMON!

:'( Rip Ed. You were the best mud whovever tweeted weird encrypted distress messages...rip mud


Damn, I was hoping we'd save him.







I'm loving this arg more and more
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Props and love to OWI.

Manco 02-07-2017 03:49 PM




No hints this time, right folks? Riiiight???

mattb150 02-07-2017 03:58 PM

So this image is very *very* rough but gives a vague idea of how those pictures look all together. The next step would probably be to try to pull each photo out one-by-one like Manco suggested so as to get clear results for every image but not a full wall-shot:

https://i.imgur.com/lfS3GjA.jpg

I think our options are:

a) Go back to the source code present a solved grid
b) Do a good enough job re-assembling the photos we currently have and then send them to OWI(?)

Regardless, that was.... interesting! I'm still a little stumped with it all but hey, let's do it.

Edit: And a little movie magic from Herrmyth, who is in the process of editing them all together to get as clear an image as possible:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0753/test1.png

& Randomiser on another postion of the image:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...07/unknown.png

Edit2: Herrmyth hitting hard with another rendition of the almost-complete image that the various pieces of paper seen on the wall comprise! Full res image attached. Warning: Its yuge.

https://i.imgur.com/iousN4q.png

Vince 02-07-2017 04:25 PM

Alright then, back to the final puzzle.

Here's a recap:

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OK, I think I may actually have something here, although it seems a bit strange to me.

Taking the hint about just looking at the start I thought maybe just ignore all the lines that start with a \ and only use the ones starting with a /.

This left me with only two lines

/\//\\//5,1:4.1,2:8.1,3:2.3,3:2.4,3:3.7,3:3.1,5:3.4,5:9.5,5:2.7,5:4.7,6:6.3,7:3.

AND

///\\/JQEABTVKNUCSEYCMBILDKOSCYSITECPAGFAXHKETJNZURWCIE

I then split the letters up into a 7x7 grid like this

1234567
1 JQEABTV
2 KNUCSEY
3 CMBILDK
4 OSCYSIT
5 ECPAGFA
6 XHKETJN
7 ZURWCIE

and using the coordinates from the row of numbers to look up the corresponding letters I got this.

B K C B I K E A G A N R

which is an anagram of the word

BACKBREAKING !


Can't seem to get the Twitter posts to work properly, the most important one was a response to 'Backbreaking':

https://twitter.com/OddworldInc/stat...53055844122624




And then that was as far as we got.
Both Glitterpanther and myself, tried all 16 codes, and found the only one able to produce any results was -- as Dawlthy suggested -- the ones beginning with a 'truth' value.

BACKBREAKING... Use with the grid...

Unresolved figures:
8992
8554
73
57 (?)

Manco 02-07-2017 05:15 PM

Here is where I am currently at with the image, but I need stop for a while.

e: Imgur embed code isn’t playing nice with me, here’s the direct link to the image: http://i.imgur.com/rxIYuws.png

e2:

View post on imgur.com

Shade_Meadows 02-07-2017 05:17 PM

Wow! good job so far! ;)
Question: are some pictures inside the picture really duplicated?

Manco 02-07-2017 05:21 PM

Seems so, particularly the ones which are drawn on, but a few others as well. I think it’s a single spread of photos seen from different angles, with a lot of overlap.

Shade_Meadows 02-07-2017 05:50 PM

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Seems so, particularly the ones which are drawn on, but a few others as well. I think it’s a single spread of photos seen from different angles, with a lot of overlap.

Oh, like a wall of pictures... and this is pieces of a picture of pieces of a picture...
Lovely! :fuzwink:

JayDee 02-07-2017 06:08 PM

If you read the underlined audio as morse code it reads "Ed"
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. -..


There's more of the underlined audio but that's all I got so far.

OrangeLightning 02-07-2017 06:32 PM

Okay, here's what I got for a pieced together pic, guys. Some of the stuff was distorted by the perspective on some of the pieces but in terms of lining stuff up I think everything is in the right place :) I tried to keep all the written on stuff in the final pic, even if I had to overlap.

I'm gonna go back through the images just to make sure I didn't miss anything important.

Scrabaniac 02-07-2017 06:34 PM

The image looks like a poor mud on an operating table awaiting some horrible procedure.. Maybe being blinded?

mattb150 02-07-2017 06:46 PM

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Okay, here's what I got for a pieced together pic, guys. Some of the stuff was distorted by the perspective on some of the pieces but in terms of lining stuff up I think everything is in the right place :) I tried to keep all the written on stuff in the final pic, even if I had to overlap.

I'm gonna go back through the images just to make sure I didn't miss anything important.

Very nice!! What a brutal scene, though. They taking that guy's eyes? Extracting brain matter *through* the eyes to make beer?? Mmmmmmm.....

OrangeLightning 02-07-2017 07:25 PM

Did one more check and didn't see any other piece that should be in there that wasn't. The only thing I changed was that in one version of the heart monitor it's framed in two red lines and in the other version it has circles marking particular parts of it, so I saved them as two images.

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Very nice!! What a brutal scene, though. They taking that guy's eyes? Extracting brain matter *through* the eyes to make beer?? Mmmmmmm.....


I know, it's super gruesome :( poor little schmuck... Just taking a gander at the different monitors, it looks like there's one with a full body X-ray (circle surrounding the lungs, maybe showing respiration) with the ID of '110110BG' on it which I believe matches the numbers on this muds chest from what I can see... so I'm thinking that's whos on the table, not Ed. Then we've got a pulse monitor, a monitor showing a diagram of his head, and a monitor showing a bunch of binary with a possible Vykkers lab symbol on the top. There is also a SS Brew container on the left that has another ID number that stars with a 'B' on it, but it doesn't look to be the same number as BG's. The needle on the bottom right also has a ID number on it and says 'SS Brew' like the container.

There is a heeeeck of a lot going on in this picture.

Edit: I'm gonna send this to OI and see what happens. Hopefully nothing bad LOL I can't take any more bad stuff today xD

GlitterPanther 02-07-2017 07:26 PM

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Alright then, back to the final puzzle.

Here's a recap:




Can't seem to get the Twitter posts to work properly, the most important one was a response to 'Backbreaking':

https://twitter.com/OddworldInc/stat...53055844122624




And then that was as far as we got.
Both Glitterpanther and myself, tried all 16 codes, and found the only one able to produce any results was -- as Dawlthy suggested -- the ones beginning with a 'truth' value.

BACKBREAKING... Use with the grid...

Unresolved figures:
8992
8554
73
57 (?)

If you need help testing theories im ur man

Maybe we need to apply the "Subjectivity or objectivity key"

Shade_Meadows 02-07-2017 07:36 PM

So... based on what we got so far, this is what they did until they got their MAIN ingredient, they experimented and experimented until realizing that Bones and Tears are the profitable parts! the rest become Pops
And the Glass Jar does say "SS BREW" But it also says "STRAIN" so... this is one of the many versions they got until we got to our tasty beverage...

Shade_Meadows 02-07-2017 07:38 PM

Also... people saying that it can be Vykkers? Well.. the instruments near the needle (that also say "SS BREW" have those holes that the Vykker's instruments have in Munch

GlitterPanther 02-07-2017 07:39 PM

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So... based on what we got so far, this is what they did until they got their MAIN ingredient, they experimented and experimented until realizing that Bones and Tears are the profitable parts! the rest become Pops
And the Glass Jar does say "SS BREW" But it also says "STRAIN" so... this is one of the many versions they got until we got to our tasty beverage...

They said on twitter we need to show them how the numbers and letters fit the previous grid. I think we should refocus on that.


Vince, do you have kik so we can discuss theories quicker? PM me ;)

They said we found the numbers, and the letters, so I think we have the right strings, its just how to put them on the grid...


Well.. I tried cracking the correct string forwards and backwards, placing it on the grid forward and reverse, checking the spots marked on the grid and I got nothing apart from

BUEMDYHNI

Also line 4 can be read

CEK SCYTHE JZR

Also last string placed in a grid, written down reads

VYKTANE Lets assume its supposed to be VYKKERS thats also 7 letters

Shade_Meadows 02-07-2017 08:32 PM

Sorry! exited here!
;o well, you are right, we solve the first things first then go to the second
... but that puzzle... damn