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PenguinX45654 01-22-2017 10:20 AM

Did we ever figure out all of the arrows on the first image? My thought with them would have been to press the arrows keys on the soulstorm page to open an image or something. One of you guys would have probably spotted something for that in the page code though.

Still, maybe something to keep as a thought for later on in the ARG. Can't wait to see the cleaned up image.

Also, side note, I can't believe how much this forum is moving everytime I check it. I was never a big part of the earlier ARG stuff, hope I can lend some help for the rest of it!

Connell 01-22-2017 10:36 AM

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Did we ever figure out all of the arrows on the first image? My thought with them would have been to press the arrows keys on the soulstorm page to open an image or something. One of you guys would have probably spotted something for that in the page code though.

Still, maybe something to keep as a thought for later on in the ARG. Can't wait to see the cleaned up image.

Also, side note, I can't believe how much this forum is moving every time I check it. I was never a big part of the earlier ARG stuff, hope I can lend some help for the rest of it!

I sort of straight-up asked OWI on Twitter if the arrows were relevant, but I didn't receive a response. It'd be strange for them to put them there with no meaning, but it doesn't look like they were required to solve this phase, nor were the math problems hidden in the source code of the /Soulstorm site.

The arrows can't really be substitutes for letters because there's only 8 variations of them. They can't really be numbers either for the same reason. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Nate 01-22-2017 11:19 AM

Is there any way to see if there have been any updates to the various versions of NnT recently? Perhaps they added something to the game itself and this is a secret code to find it.

Manco 01-22-2017 11:26 AM

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I sort of straight-up asked OWI on Twitter if the arrows were relevant, but I didn't receive a response. It'd be strange for them to put them there with no meaning, but it doesn't look like they were required to solve this phase, nor were the math problems hidden in the source code of the /Soulstorm site.

There’s a decent chance they’ll become more relevant in later puzzles.


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Is there any way to see if there have been any updates to the various versions of NnT recently? Perhaps they added something to the game itself and this is a secret code to find it.

Steam keeps patch notes in the News section for each game.

Nate 01-22-2017 11:31 AM

I looked in there, but can't see any software updates ever. Perhaps OWI just don't bother posting in the news?

Also, given it looks like controller directions, perhaps it's only on consoles?

mattb150 01-22-2017 11:34 AM

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Is there any way to see if there have been any updates to the various versions of NnT recently? Perhaps they added something to the game itself and this is a secret code to find it.

SteamDB keeps great record of things like that. Looks like NnT was last updated ~7 months ago, and it's various DLCs ~1 year ago.

https://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q...ld+new+n+tasty

Edit: Actually according to https://steamdb.info/sub/57689/history/ , NnT may have gotten a minor update as little as 4 months ago. Something happened 29 days ago but it appears it was maybe just a version/package number change.

AlexanderG 01-22-2017 12:01 PM

GLUKKON THEORY
 
in this picture of "pieces of paper" i've found a Glukkon! Or Something very very similar to a glukkon... so i've bordered it!
What do you think about???

Varrok 01-22-2017 12:05 PM

There is... no Glukkon there :D

Phoetux 01-22-2017 12:22 PM

Most of us already noticed and I thought it was Dripik. It could be everything, a mudokon, a glukkon or just a lamp. I guess we need to wait OWI to clean the image to be sure of what is it.

TopHattedTime 01-22-2017 12:31 PM

I think OWI have changed their twitter pic - it looks like Alf chillin' (unless it's been like that for a while and I'm seeing things lol) :D

Gunnr 01-22-2017 12:38 PM

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I think OWI have changed their twitter pic - it looks like Alf chillin' (unless it's been like that for a while and I'm seeing things lol) :D

http://i.imgur.com/dsc4Ps9.png


It looks the same to me...unless it got clearer or something but idts

Dead Meat 01-22-2017 12:43 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/dsc4Ps9.png


It looks the same to me...unless it got clearer or something but idts

It looks clearer to me.

Phoetux 01-22-2017 12:52 PM

For me it looks the same. Alf was already recognizable when they put that pic for the first time, it was quite well clear already.

Gunnr 01-22-2017 12:58 PM

When we reveal the 5 pics will we also reveal Ed and if we reveal Ed will Alf's clear profile pic also be fully revealed? Then once we reveal the reveal of the reveal that reveals the reveal, will we finally get the reveal we've been waiting for?

Phoetux 01-22-2017 01:02 PM

At the end of this ARG the reveal will be revealed during the reveal, the storm will reveal it!

Fontaine 01-22-2017 01:04 PM

Hey everybody, first time posting, I just had a thought.

In the pieced together photograph, everyone has referred to the thing the mudokon is holding as a bullet or a bomb.

Are we absolutely sure that's what it is?

To me, it looks like a satchel of mining tools or something similar.

I might be wrong, but the shape isn't right for a bullet shell, and the "point" might actually be a pick or a hammer an angle.

Also, the numbers and letters on the mudokons chest match the ones on whatever he is holding.

Has this been suggested before? Sorry if it has, I'm new and this is my first ARG!

Can't wait for more details to surface!

LIJI 01-22-2017 01:08 PM

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My version of arrows (notice awful quality!)
Arrows with same colors are, IMO, have same directions.
The ones in which I not sure are marked with "?".

Fragments #2 and #5 are, indeed, look same ("AND"? "ARE"? "OUR"? "LOW"?)
Because of fragments #5 and #6, I think we should look for something like this cipher
http://great-jones.com/files/1813/09...erRing0012.jpg
meaning that same direction can be different letters depending on situation.

It's very likely that each different direction represents a different letter. They have patterns that generally seem to match English-language digraph frequencies. The blue arrow is either T or E: T is the most common letter at the start of a word, E the is most common letter in general. The blue arrow appears 6 times – 4 of which are the start of a word. E is a very common letter to start a word with.

If the blue arrow is T, the green arrow must be a vowel since it's followed by 2 Ts in the 4th word. The red and yellow arrows might be H and E, and the cyan arrow might be A.

I've been messing with this for a while, didn't manage to get a reasonable assignment, and the uncertainty of some arrows doesn't really help =/

OWI_Alex 01-22-2017 01:25 PM

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When we reveal the 5 pics will we also reveal Ed and if we reveal Ed will Alf's clear profile pic also be fully revealed? Then once we reveal the reveal of the reveal that reveals the reveal, will we finally get the reveal we've been waiting for?

To be revealed.

Silentvoid 01-22-2017 01:33 PM

I'm playing through exodus at the moment and I feel like this could be in the slig barracks, block 0, there is a a stage with 4 depressed mudokons behind electric gates. One has a deep voice, probably nothing but thought it fit the theme.

Gunnr 01-22-2017 01:36 PM

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Hey everybody, first time posting, I just had a thought.

In the pieced together photograph, everyone has referred to the thing the mudokon is holding as a bullet or a bomb.

Are we absolutely sure that's what it is?

To me, it looks like a satchel of mining tools or something similar.

I might be wrong, but the shape isn't right for a bullet shell, and the "point" might actually be a pick or a hammer an angle.

Also, the numbers and letters on the mudokons chest match the ones on whatever he is holding.

Has this been suggested before? Sorry if it has, I'm new and this is my first ARG!

Can't wait for more details to surface!

Yes this has been suggested by a few, myself included and yes we noticed the Numbers on the mud's chest match the bundle he's holding.

Keep looking though and read thoroughly

Also welcome newcommer =)

OWI_Alex 01-22-2017 01:37 PM

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I looked in there, but can't see any software updates ever. Perhaps OWI just don't bother posting in the news?

Sure we do - http://steamcommunity.com/app/314660/allnews/ - unless I'm misunderstanding. I've always tried to ensure every single part of every single update for NnT (across all formats) was absolutely documented, both in the patch notes on the console (or Steam) and on oddworld.com.

Eg:

http://www.oddworld.com/2016/02/oddw...ased-on-steam/
http://www.oddworld.com/2015/04/patc...n-tasty-on-pc/
http://www.oddworld.com/2014/09/oddw...eased-for-ps4/

Fontaine 01-22-2017 02:02 PM

Ah that's good, glad it wasn't missed! Personally I think this and the audio might be taken in the necrum mines, but who knows!

HOMINIX 01-22-2017 02:32 PM

It definitely does sound to me like the recording device was riding a cart through a huge space, occasionally going past areas with a bunch of suffering Muds. The pained screaming and zapping sounds make me think it's Soulstorm Brewery, and we're passing by the tear extractor areas

Fontaine 01-22-2017 02:58 PM

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It definitely does sound to me like the recording device was riding a cart through a huge space, occasionally going past areas with a bunch of suffering Muds. The pained screaming and zapping sounds make me think it's Soulstorm Brewery, and we're passing by the tear extractor areas

That actually sounds more likely, considering the zapping noises.

I'm still trying to figure out the sirens. They sound pitched down ever so slightly, or extended longer than the usual time.

It's the same alarm as when you trigger motion sensors, so maybe it's some other mudokon trying to escape?

Creeps me right out!

Michael 01-22-2017 03:11 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out the sirens. They sound pitched down ever so slightly, or extended longer than the usual time.

Doppler effect? This would fit the theory the 'recorder' is travelling at speed.

Connell 01-22-2017 03:52 PM

You know what excites me most about this ARG? Thinking about how it kinda stopped in it's tracks around summer... that means they've had a lot of time to think up some great puzzles for this phase, can't wait ;)

OrangeLightning 01-22-2017 04:11 PM

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You know what excites me most about this ARG? Thinking about how it kinda stopped in it's tracks around summer... that means they've had a lot of time to think up some great puzzles for this phase, can't wait ;)

Oh man, I know! All the puzzles and communique from Ed so far have been really intriguing and I can't wait to see what they've got up their sleeves for us next! :happy:

tmakz 01-22-2017 05:07 PM

I hope the cleaned up image is revealed this week

HOMINIX 01-22-2017 07:19 PM

In the hopes of finding something new, I re-cut and stitched em together, but didn't find much else. I do think there is a giant Glukkon statue in the top-right corner, and I also think there is another word or something written on the top-right piece, but it's hard to make out, even when you tinker with the levels and contrast etc. The writing is right-side up in its original fragment image, but the piece is rotated in the final image. To me, the writing looks like it starts with W and ends with ?.


ALSO - I feel like we're missing something important with the file names, as Syrum pointed out, the letters in each file name can together construct the word "Alphanumerically", which usually refers to how things are sorted: 0 goes first, then up through 9, then through the alphabet A-Z.

sk8erbender 01-22-2017 08:33 PM

Guys what about that binary code on that thing or bomb whatever it is ?
010101bb maybe it's ..
I feel there is connection between those numbers like 9394-al

Syrum 01-22-2017 09:21 PM

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ALSO - I feel like we're missing something important with the file names, as Syrum pointed out, the letters in each file name can together construct the word "Alphanumerically"

Last night I had the thought that the numbers in each file name might have been Unicode, as Unicode characters are usually referenced by 4 digit numbers and - more importantly - Unicode is alphanumeric. Didn't really get anywhere when I looked into the corresponding characters, but just a thought outside the box :fuzsmile:

tmakz 01-23-2017 01:07 AM

Great updates everyone ^•^/

Sybil Ant 01-23-2017 01:16 AM

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Guys what about that binary code on that thing or bomb whatever it is ?
010101bb maybe it's ..
I feel there is connection between those numbers like 9394-al

As a decmial, the binary 010101 converts to 21, doesn't it? 15 Hexa and 25 Octal. Not sure if those could be relevant though.

Perhaps they're the suffixes to the next webpages we have to find. ;P

horiZon 01-23-2017 01:40 AM

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As a decmial, the binary 010101 converts to 21, doesn't it? 15 Hexa and 25 Octal. Not sure if those could be relevant though.

Some1 figured thIs out too ->
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Well, in that case it translates to 21BB.

edit: Ok after some googling, i found out that U-21BB is unicode character. Clockwise open circe arrow. I dont think that it is relevant, but i just wanted t o share it

But not many saw that, since it's already 5-6Pages behind. :<
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I personally think the peeping face is just 2 bolts on the fence that do admittedly look like eyes. Guess we'll find out when we see the cleaned up image though :D

I'm putting this here too, it's not that relevant, but it could change anything, if u look at it like that.
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I wanted to point out because I don't believe anyone mentioned it: I can see a Mud holding a bucket (?) in 5574-PH. It's just a hand, but I can clearly make out a thumb gripping something. Seems like our Mudokon pal isn't alone.

Furthermore, very intrigued by the Alphanumerically message from the photo IDs. Has anyone been looking into that?

Best of luck to everyone!

This is also worth for a repost.
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Ran each letter through an anagram decoder and it returns the word Alphanumerically. Obviously a word, but what is its purpose?

EDIT: Perhaps we're to use the digits in the name of each photo i.e 3786 and correspond them with their alphanumeric value? i.e A=1 B=2 C=3 or something?

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I've tried assigning each number to a letter of the alphabet and got this:


AL-9394 PH-5574 AN-7393 UM-9455 ER-2384 IC-3786 AL-7676 LY-1029
= ICID EEGD GEIC IDEE W HD CGHF GFGF J BJ

Not sure if there's an anagram to be made here or if I'm on completely the wrong track. (Note: the 'W' and 'J' are from the numbers '23' and '10')

Maybe we need to take a better look at this?

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It definitely does sound to me like the recording device was riding a cart through a huge space, occasionally going past areas with a bunch of suffering Muds. The pained screaming and zapping sounds make me think it's Soulstorm Brewery, and we're passing by the tear extractor areas

But if they're shoutin out loud in the Mine for 'Abe' , i'm sure as hell they getting killed. Since Abe is the Antagonist for all Glukkons since AO/NnT. Or...or is it a Trap for him? :<

Sybil Ant 01-23-2017 01:48 AM

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Some1 figured thIs out too ->

But not many saw that, since it's already 5-6Pages behind. :<

I'm putting this here too, it's not that relevant, but it could change anything, if u look at it like that.


But if they're shoutin out loud in the Mine for 'Abe' , i'm sure as hell they getting killed. Since Abe is the Antagonist for all Glukkons since AO/NnT. Or...or is it a Trap for him? :<

Fair play, I didn't see that to be honest. I wonder if that's somehow related to the arrows on that first clue to the ARG part II?

Pohatta 01-23-2017 02:18 AM

I like this forum. (First time here.) People are so nice. Good luck with the ARG.

GouStoulos 01-23-2017 02:35 AM

I guess that most of you have seen this by now, but no one posted it
https://i.gyazo.com/110bf2e956e202d5...f1d5ada2a7.png

tmakz 01-23-2017 02:42 AM

In hoping Either Tomorrow or Tueaday we see the big reveal

tmakz 01-23-2017 02:43 AM

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I like this forum. (First time here.) People are so nice. Good luck with the ARG.

Welcome to the Family ^•^/

Xavier 01-23-2017 02:50 AM

Hello tmakz welcome to the forums,

Please don't double post, instead use the edit button if you want to add something to your previous post.