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Crashpunk 03-24-2016 03:48 AM

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That would be stupid. The Greeters were pretty creepy in a way. They would fit the darker tone of Soulstorm pretty well.

Not only that. But Greeters worked a little different to normal lasers which made for some unique puzzles, particularly in FeeCo.

JayDee 03-24-2016 04:23 AM

The issue with the Greeters' laser fields is that they "rotated" around the Greeters. In a 2D space this is somewhat easier to pull off, but if we had Connel's idea of a "floodlight" style laser field (which I actually think is pretty cool) then we'd be constantly seeing the laser field fall off the edges of platforms as it rotates around the Greeter.

Also I agree that laser fields were pretty dumbed down for NnT. The inability for laser fields to overlap made complex puzzles much easier.

Connell 03-24-2016 06:51 AM

Potentially the laser shuts off and turns back on once the Greeter has turned?

JayDee 03-24-2016 06:55 AM

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Potentially the laser shuts off and turns back on once the Greeter has turned?

Doing that would remove the threat of actually trying to walk past a greeter whilst it's laser field rotates around it. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I'd walk past a Greeter only for it's laser field to pass through it's body when it's turns and zap me.

Connell 03-24-2016 07:59 AM

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Doing that would remove the threat of actually trying to walk past a greeter whilst it's laser field rotates around it. I couldn't tell you the amount of times I'd walk past a Greeter only for it's laser field to pass through it's body when it's turns and zap me.

Very true. I'm sure there's a solution out there somewhere. I highly doubt they'd omit them completely.

Ledeux 03-24-2016 09:37 AM

Wait....so is this a remake of Exoddus? I'm a bit confused. Has Lorne answered any questions regarding this? Will it be 2D? Will my beloved Necrum and Slig Barracks be fully realized in glorious HD?

Varrok 03-24-2016 09:41 AM

It's gonna be in Unity, so it probably won't be in 2D. It's probably a reimagining of Abe's Exoddus, like New N Tasty

HOMINIX 03-24-2016 11:35 AM

Lorne said "its basically all brand new" in one of his most recent interviews, so I wouldn't expect just the New N Tasty treatment for Exoddus. He said the idea behind New n Tasty was keeping the original script and redoing it with modern technology - He's said (I'm paraphrasing) that Soulstorm will be more like a new script based on the existing plot.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 11:43 AM

New n Tasty was a remake. SoulStorm is going to be a full reimagining it seems.

Vlam 03-24-2016 11:49 AM

If I recall correctly, Abe HD (at the beginning) was also called a "reimagination".

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 12:02 PM

Yeah, but it turned out to be a remake, just not a very faithful one (atmosphere-wise).

A reimagining is what Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is to Silent Hill 1. Hopefully the fact the fact that SH:SM is utter, utter dogshit is completely irrelevant.

Vlam 03-24-2016 01:46 PM

Yes, my point is: Soulstorm could also be a remake.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 01:56 PM

It could be, but after everything we've seen and Lorne calling it a reimagining I'm assuming it will be a reimagining.

Varrok 03-24-2016 01:59 PM

We haven't seen much, if anything, about the actual game so far.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 02:00 PM

We've seen enough to determine that it is a reimagining.

JayDee 03-24-2016 02:03 PM

Lorne himself literally said that they were rewriting the script and just keeping the bits he likes. If you rewrite Hamlet but in Africa with lions then you get The Lion King, they both have the same key points but they're completely different experiences. I think it's undeniable that this is more than just a remake.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 02:08 PM

Exactly.

Varrok 03-24-2016 02:12 PM

I was just saying that so far we've seen no cutscenes, no gameplay, and hardly any music from the game, so it's dumb to assume you know what the game is gonna be. Because it is dumb.

Vlam 03-24-2016 02:14 PM

Varrok, J_dude may be new to Oddworld. To quote Nate:

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Jeez, do Oddworld fans never fucking learn?

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 02:17 PM

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I was just saying that so far we've seen no cutscenes, no gameplay, and hardly any music from the game, so it's dumb to assume you know what the game is gonna be. Because it is dumb.

Did you miss the bit where I said "based on what we've heard so far".

Varrok 03-24-2016 02:20 PM

What have we heard about that wasn't pure PR?

Vlam 03-24-2016 02:21 PM

Nepsotic is trolling.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 02:22 PM

Well, we've NOT heard Abe's Exoddus be mentioned once in regards to Soulstorm, besides "we kept the backbone and we're rewriting everything else".

Vlam 03-24-2016 02:27 PM

Ironically, we're on a forum who is making fun of religion.

Nepsotic 03-24-2016 02:28 PM

It's a little different, Vlam.

ALLAHU VLAMBAR

Varrok 03-24-2016 02:30 PM

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Ironically, we're on a forum who is making fun of religion.

which*. You seem to make this mistake on a regular basis. When talking about a person, use "who" in this context, when talking about a thing(s), use "which"

Vlam 03-24-2016 02:32 PM

Thank you.

STM 03-24-2016 02:36 PM

THE FOREIGNERS ARE PASSING ON INFORMATION TO ONE ANOTHER AND THUS ARE DISPLAYING CEPHALOPOD LEVELS OF INTELLIGENCE.

JayDee 03-24-2016 03:33 PM

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Varrok, J_dude may be new to Oddworld. To quote Nate:

What the hell is Oddworld.

HOMINIX 03-24-2016 10:52 PM

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What have we heard about that wasn't pure PR?

The point is, from the press release and Lanning's interviews, one could gather that Soulstorm is more or less "take 2" of Exoddus, or a second draft. Of course we don't know what the final product is, but it certainly isn't dumb to think that it will more likely be a re-imagining than a straight up remake with modern elements like NnT was.

Vlam 03-25-2016 12:32 AM

Hominix, it's based on experience.

Varrok 03-25-2016 01:43 AM

I know what they *said*, but we haven's seen what they have *done*. It's quite a big difference.

JayDee 03-25-2016 03:07 AM

I understand the arguments on erring on the side of caution,especially when it comes to OWI and Lorne Lanning but I'm hopeful that; especially considering this is a follow up to New N Tasty and they already have resources put in place, along with new and better connections now than at the start of NnT's development cycle; they'll end up delivering on much more of their promises.

Slugology 03-25-2016 03:42 AM

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What the hell is Oddworld.

It is a mystery

HOMINIX 03-25-2016 07:39 AM

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I know what they *said*, but we haven's seen what they have *done*. It's quite a big difference.

So that's your point? That we don't know what the finished product will be? Of course we don't. This thread is like 90% speculation. I've been playing oddworld for most of my life, and I've seen people's hopes get dashed, but I don't think anyone is unaware that their speculations may be wrong.

People are speculating because it's exciting. Popping up and repeating that we don't know what the finished product will be isn't very helpful in a speculation thread... That's why it's speculation.

Varrok 03-25-2016 07:47 AM

Speculating and acting like it's truth are not neccessarily the same

HOMINIX 03-25-2016 07:55 AM

Who acted like it's the truth? Need I remind you, you came to the conclusion that it's probably a similar style of remake to NnT based on the info that it's made in the same engine. That's not necessarily safe speculation either.

Varrok 03-25-2016 07:57 AM

They key word is "probably". That's a speculation.

HOMINIX 03-25-2016 08:08 AM

You'll find that the vast majority of the people in this thread include words like "probably", "most likely", "maybe" and other words of uncertainty when they post their predictions. You're not doing anyone a service by reminding them that their idea is just an idea.

Vlam 03-25-2016 09:01 AM

Hominix, I know how you will react if SoulStorm turns out to be a remake of AE: "Yeah, well, it is the fault of the studio...".