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Shade_Meadows 03-14-2017 02:19 PM

Well, Sister is in the computer now (borrowing in her time to see new developments and)
I CALLED IT!
I WAS RIGHT! HA!...
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Well, you all agreed with me... but i am happy none-the-less!
:)
Well, i just feel stupid not to figure out alone!

Xavier 03-14-2017 03:08 PM

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It's a popular meme :(
But alright sorry.

I'm sorry, I might have been a bit too harsh on you there.

I was shown the knowyourmeme page and now see what you did there.

But please let's keep this thread clean and focused on the ARG investigation

Shade_Meadows 03-14-2017 06:04 PM

Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

http://i.imgur.com/T3kNHD5.png

Shade_Meadows 03-14-2017 07:16 PM

Tried to make it better

http://i.imgur.com/pwOsAwh.png

also This was used last time right?:http://www.jmcvey.net/alphabets/1836...s_972w888h.jpg

tmakz 03-14-2017 07:18 PM

https://twitter.com/SPIRITOF1029/sta...41119012261889

tmakz 03-14-2017 07:20 PM

Just posted the link from Spirit of 1029 apparently they said "you have all you need Follow the numbers Find the Truth so now what?

Shade_Meadows 03-14-2017 07:33 PM

I don't know if people already cracked the code and i'm WAY behind, but was trying to decipher this and... woah, i think there is more than one language and its giving me a headache XD
where is the guy that deciphered the Photo3 Code?

Edit: Wait... last time it was backwards right? AHHHHH, Back again

V_O_T 03-14-2017 08:44 PM

Insane Mudokons as well as blind, sick, happy, sad and angry.. I bet these ones are going to be able to lash out and kill you in this game.

Xavier 03-15-2017 12:06 AM

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Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

http://i.imgur.com/T3kNHD5.png

The alphabet OrangeLightning used is attached to this post: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=255

Nemin 03-15-2017 01:33 AM

First, no need to feel bad, i moderate another site and i know, that if sometimes you don't do something slowly all hell breaks loose.

Secondly, the alphabets doesn't seem to match. The first rune could be an N, but then the second one? Maybe characters from the other alphabets must be used.

Varstahl 03-15-2017 05:44 AM

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Got this too late? XD sorry, just noticed on the trailer

http://i.imgur.com/T3kNHD5.png

Where did you find this? We could try a frequency attack on it, but I'm kind of rusty.

Actually never mind, a frequency attack is impossible on this, looks more like an alphabet.

STM 03-15-2017 06:20 AM

I'm updating as I go along but using the blind alphabets masterpost above I'm coming up with the following:

=NORMAL=

N? ? ?? WS?????? S?? ??? ???? ?????

=FLIPPED=

?N?R? KL?C ??M ??? ?????K?? ?? ? ??


I'll edit as I go along but I'm at work so I can only really work it out intermittently. If anyone wants to take over please do so!

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 08:03 AM

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Where did you find this? We could try a frequency attack on it, but I'm kind of rusty.

Actually never mind, a frequency attack is impossible on this, looks more like an alphabet.

Oh! here is where it comes from, it's from the new teaser (it's on for literally ONE frame):
http://i.imgur.com/dfiDRsq.png

Varstahl 03-15-2017 08:26 AM

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Oh! here is where it comes from, it's from the new teaser (it's on for literally ONE frame):
http://i.imgur.com/dfiDRsq.png

I'll be damned, I check the entire clip frame by frame, especially the zoom/pans which looked quite suspicious, didn't see it. at all. I'll see if I can enhance it.

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 08:28 AM

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I'll be damned, I check the entire clip frame by frame, especially the zoom/pans which looked quite suspicious, didn't see it. at all. I'll see if I can enhance it.

I'm aways happy to help with stuff XD i can't solve puzzles, but damn if i can't find secrets! >:)
i saw the clip frame by frame, i only saw this and some squares at the end...
(and many "old film" disturbances)
:goof:

Varstahl 03-15-2017 09:35 AM

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I'm aways happy to help with stuff XD i can't solve puzzles, but damn if i can't find secrets! >:)
i saw the clip frame by frame, i only saw this and some squares at the end...
(and many "old film" disturbances)
:goof:

I must have passed by that frame alone 2-3 times last night, didn't see it. Same today, tried again, nothing. Frame by frame, my eye just wouldn't notice it, go figure. Anyway…

http://i.imgur.com/WxM2i5t.png
Full version available…

I've been trying to enhance it as best I could, I've tried some frequency separation, noise removal, and then manually traced it with a brush. Coloured grey the areas I'm not too sure about, but this seems about right.

It's strange though, I keep getting the feeling that if we cut it in half and/or mirror it it will match something. It's like I know at least half those glyphs, but I can't figure where from.

manny786 03-15-2017 09:58 AM

http://i.imgur.com/9cjezg0.png
Here's what I have so far.

Hi guys! Newcomer here to the forums and ARG'ing. I've put the glyphs and tried to translate them as best as I could and from what I've seen I'm guessing that there's a message we have to decypher once more...

NJ ??D WSQWCDIB SNJ YWU GD PQMZDIB

Unfortunately I had some difficulty trying to figure out what some symbols meant. Since I couldn't find the glyphs for Z and J, I used two of the glyphs I found in the new message and made them stand for J and Z (but since I don't know if they're the real translations they can be interchangable).

I tried to mirror the glyphs to see if it needed to be flipped the right way around but it only seems to have made things worse. However because of the way the glyphs are the message did change but a lot of it is missing translation.

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 09:59 AM

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I must have passed by that frame alone 2-3 times last night, didn't see it. Same today, tried again, nothing. Frame by frame, my eye just wouldn't notice it, go figure. Anyway…

http://i.imgur.com/WxM2i5t.png
Full version available…

I've been trying to enhance it as best I could, I've tried some frequency separation, noise removal, and then manually traced it with a brush. Coloured grey the areas I'm not too sure about, but this seems about right.

It's strange though, I keep getting the feeling that if we cut it in half and/or mirror it it will match something. It's like I know at least half those glyphs, but I can't figure where from.

Well... OddWorld is getting sneakier

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 10:00 AM

Wait... so it's a cipher that translate to a cipher?

Nemin 03-15-2017 10:03 AM

I used OrangeLightning's alphabet, but I had no luck:

Original: NM ??? WS?OCDI? SNM ??? G?T????S
Flipped: ??????K? ?C ??? OI? HN?GMK?? ??? DI

Varstahl 03-15-2017 10:54 AM

Supposing it's a substitution cipher, and supposing the alphabet follows the same rules of the previous iteration, I started working on a reduction of the problem, shown here:

http://i.imgur.com/eXzxNi4.png

It assumes that the flat position is the first, and that the glyphs rotate 45° for every letter. So, "in theory", finding those 4-5 key letters should give us the alphabet to decrypt it all.

Pardon the rough mouse drawings, trying to update you guys as I go…

Wiese 03-15-2017 11:00 AM

Hey, I am new here!
Just found two more codes in the clip.
See you in a few minutes :D

Nemin 03-15-2017 11:07 AM

Mind sharing it with us please? Maybe we will have more luck with those.

Wiese 03-15-2017 11:09 AM

here are the codes I found. I'll try to clear them up a bit!
https://sharepic.moe/img/OKLv6.png

https://sharepic.moe/img/yBg5L.png

Varstahl 03-15-2017 11:21 AM

--. -.. .--. --.- --- .--- / --.- -.- / --.- -.-. --- / -... -.-. -.- --. --.- .--. / -.. --- / --.- -.- --- / --- - -

GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKGQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Unless I'm mistaken.

I'm starting to wonder if they're red herrings.

Nemin 03-15-2017 11:23 AM

Awesome man, nice job!

The Morse code reads: GDPQOJ QK QCO BCKGQP DO QKO OTT
I assume this needs to be deciphered.

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 11:36 AM

Wow, more codes than i thought! ;D and i analyzed it so cautiously! happy to see more codes!
YAY ODD COMMUNITY!

Shade_Meadows 03-15-2017 11:36 AM

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--. -.. .--. --.- --- .--- / --.- -.- / --.- -.-. --- / -... -.-. -.- --. --.- .--. / -.. --- / --.- -.- --- / --- - -

GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKGQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Unless I'm mistaken.

I'm starting to wonder if they're red herrings.

I don't think they would do this... it seems weird for them, have they done this before? don't match their MO
:)

Varstahl 03-15-2017 11:38 AM

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I don't think they would do this... it seems weird for them, have they done this before? don't match their MO
:)

No idea, I'm quite new.

By the way, the other screenshot looks like pigpen, and I still have no idea about the first substitution algo… let's see if some dinner will help the thinking :P

Nemin 03-15-2017 11:41 AM

Ok the Morse isn't Caesar-cipher. I cycled trough all the possible shifts.