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Varstahl 03-15-2017 04:16 PM

Can't seem to make head or tail of any of it. We either need someone way better than me, more information, or both. I tend to think it's both.

I tried to enhance the pigpens a bit:

http://i.imgur.com/TZ1gWW2.png

As for the rest, can't wrap my head around it. It seems to be a mix of Leeson and Club Penguin. That can't be right. And unless I'm wrong, on the left there's even some malachian and another glyph I saw somewhere but can't remember for the life of me.

If we flip it over, I think I spot in order H L D P G C 1 N 5, amongst the few glyphs I can read.

On the left-most part I seem to spot a couple chinese ideographs, but this is insane, and I'm tired as hell, and I'd rather be sleeping.

Gunnr 03-15-2017 06:24 PM

Here's my attempt on the pig pen we found with Varstahls image https://imgur.com/gallery/KygAu

Wish we could get the image clearer :(

Edit: The translated letters are under the (very blurry) symbols. ?'s Mark what look like pig pen symbols but are too faded to make out.

OrangeLightning 03-15-2017 07:27 PM

This is what I get for being sick :dead: haha holy crap, I missed SO MUCH!
I can't believe they actually put out a video! I honestly wasn't even expecting a glimpse of footage until the end of the ARG. This is great!
So it looks like they may be using the same alphabet I translated for that one image, but maybe with different letter substitutions. I'll try to sharpen up the stills you guys were able to grab from the video a bit more in photoshop and see if that'll help.

It's good to be back on here :)

tmakz 03-15-2017 10:37 PM

Welcome Back Orange Lightning Blessings Hope you are well

Gunnr 03-16-2017 02:53 AM

^^ Hey OL, glad you're back :)

Shade_Meadows 03-16-2017 02:56 AM

Heyo peeps!
i have to admit, even tough i'm not that good with codes and such... this one seems the hardest yet

Varstahl 03-16-2017 06:18 AM

Well, I might be wrong (as I often am) but I think we're missing something. Admittedly I stopped working on a simple substitution on the mudokan, but there might be something we overlooked. Maybe the key was in the code comments on the page where the video was embedded? Maybe that string that keeps on coming was the Vigenère key? Don't know, I'll do some more tests when I'm done working.

Wiese 03-16-2017 06:59 AM

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--. -.. .--. --.- --- .--- / --.- -.- / --.- -.-. --- / -... -.-. -.- --. --.- .--. / -.. --- / --.- -.- --- / --- - -

GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKGQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Unless I'm mistaken.

I looked up the morse again and you missed a dot. :p

Correction:
GDPQOJ/QK/QCO/BCKPQP/DO/QKO/OTT

Wiese 03-16-2017 07:02 AM

Also I isolated every single frame in the best quality i can get with a program.
Should I upload some zip with all of them?

Phoetux 03-16-2017 07:14 AM

Make an album on http://imgur.com instead.

Wiese 03-16-2017 08:05 AM

I made a Dropbox, because Imgur would take me hours.
All the frames in the best quality I could get:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/18nvnaj9sw...rames.rar?dl=0

Varstahl 03-16-2017 08:30 AM

Excellent quality. BMP a bit overkill though, you might have used PNG instead :D

Vanilla ✜ 03-16-2017 09:14 AM

How do we plan to relay the soon to be found answer to Oddworld Inhabitants if we can't openly show it?

Nemin 03-16-2017 09:16 AM

It was for the Whatifwetoldyoutoo page. Which was then "declassified".

oblivionkeeper23 03-16-2017 09:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l4jZVTUoak
This clip confirms there's a vykker outside of it.

Phoetux 03-16-2017 09:47 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l4jZVTUoak
This clip confirms there's a vykker outside of it.

Yeah we know, since everyone is looking and deciphering the secrets in it rn.

oblivionkeeper23 03-16-2017 09:49 AM

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Yeah we know, since everyone is looking and deciphering the secrets in it rn.

Whoops. Was on the first page when I came in and didn't realize there was more :fuzemb:

TopHattedTime 03-16-2017 11:38 AM

woooooooow these codes are sneaky as hell haha! Nicely found ;)

Do you think the pigpen looking one is just pigpen? I'm looking at it now and some of the symbols don't look like pigpen... They actually look more like the blind language OL found. Perhaps it's a mix of both?

Varstahl 03-16-2017 06:32 PM

I honestly don't know. A few glyphs read in order with blind language, just like Gunnr found out, read much like "RGBA", which might be a hint for something to come. I need to dig into the pigpen frame better, but there's so much work (and ARGs) going on these days that I barely manage. Maybe tomorrow or over the weekend…

SligValet 03-16-2017 11:14 PM

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How do we plan to relay the soon to be found answer to Oddworld Inhabitants if we can't openly show it?

What if you convert it back into another type of code language to show that we understand it, and have THEM solve it. Sounds a bit far fetched though.

tmakz 03-17-2017 03:26 AM

Happy weekend and Happy st patricks day wonder if pic 4 will be revealed?

AvengingGibbons 03-17-2017 04:01 AM

Don't know if anyone's pointed it out, but the square sequences that show at the end of the video are 8, 2, 9 and 1 = 8291

Wiese 03-17-2017 04:47 AM

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Don't know if anyone's pointed it out, but the square sequences that show at the end of the video are 8, 2, 9 and 1 = 8291

Yeah, we all know! Just read the last 3 pages of this forum...

AvengingGibbons 03-17-2017 04:50 AM

Yeah i did like 10mins ago, thanks anyway... I tried swapping the dots for the dashes in the morse code and decyphering it but got nothing that stood out...

Varstahl 03-17-2017 06:27 AM

Guys disregard the tweet about the non sharing policy. That was expressly sent out for the video that we're analysing now, lore being that was sent by an infiltrate agent and if it was exposed too soon he would have been killed. As So1029 tweeted then:
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Our operative's safety is confirmed, we've sent the latest transmission. Now they can show the world. #wewillrise
If we were to publish the findings before they gave the go ahead, they probably would have killed the agent, just like they killed Agent 98.

Nemin 03-17-2017 06:32 AM

Huh, can you please TL;DR it for me or show me a link about what happened, with Asset98? Was the community too 'greedy'?

Shade_Meadows 03-17-2017 08:32 AM

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Huh, can you please TL;DR it for me or show me a link about what happened, with Asset98? Was the community too 'greedy'?

Some people used... "hacks?" to enter the pages and get codes, or something like that, not the real hard way, so we... killed an poor mud

Nemin 03-17-2017 08:48 AM

Hmm, that's sad. Well it could have certainly ruined the ARG, so i'm happy they stopped.

Varstahl 03-17-2017 12:11 PM

Afair it was a crawling bot, trying a few combinations (like asset98/digits) but I wasn't around so I'm not too sure. But that seems to be the way things went, considering the tweets that followed. It is to date unknown wether that was scripted or intentional after seeing the bots, although the bot theory seems fit given this tweet by So1029:
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We can't reach Asset 98 but we do still have his clear transmissions. Prove you're worthy. Show us that you're able. Send us the grid. You found the grid, the letters and the numbers. Tell us how they fit together. Prove you're no longer slaves to the machines.
I caught up with the ARG shortly after that, so I'm not 100% sure.

On a side note, I'm off the work since Monday, deep inspection of the frame stills will ensue. And I might even apply a couple new tricks learnt while doing the Intel ARG. Still don't know if they'll be useful.

Varstahl 03-17-2017 02:32 PM

Did some extrapolation of data with new stuff I learnt from the Intel ARG, most of it is kind of readable. Left both the original and the improved version, the entirety of the images I processed (for better or worse :confused:) are here.

http://imgur.com/wcqn4qG.png
Click for larger version

http://i.imgur.com/W4UyXoQ.png
Click for larger version

http://i.imgur.com/fjY2A1y.png
Click for larger version

Not too sure on both the morse and the glyphs… some seem artifacts although some are clearly there. In the pigpens I dotted what I wasn't sure of.

Wiese 03-17-2017 05:31 PM

Awesome! Really nice work Varstahl! :D

Varstahl 03-17-2017 05:50 PM

Still can't figure any of it out. But while watching the morse frame in its context I started wondering, "what if the Q are not supposed to be there?". If you split the morse at the double dash, most of the word make some sort of sense. Possibly confirmation bias, I'll post it one of the many iterations:
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--. -.. .--. -- .- --- .--- / -- .- -.- / -- .- -.-. / -. .. -.-. -.- .--. --.- .--. / -.. --- / -- .- -.- --- / --- - -
GDPMAOJ/MAK/MAC/NICKPQP/DO/MAKO/OTT

I'm really, really terrible at morse, maybe someone more expert could figure something out. Just a thought.

Anyway I'm still going through every frame, wish I could make sense of some of it though.


PS: tried running them through Atbash too, nothing relevant I fear. We may have to spear head the mudokan substitution first since it's the most visible message and probably the one meant to be found first. I'm seriously out of ideas though, where the big'guns at? :P

OrangeLightning 03-17-2017 06:48 PM

Nice! Wiese and Varstahl, those high quality and cleaned up versions of the codes help so much! :D

I decided to have a crack at the Morse code one just since that's the clearest of the three, and I DID have something work--- aaaand not work at the same time lol It works for half of it. So right now I'm trying to figure out if the fact that it works for half of it is a fluke or if the reason it doesn't work for the later half is because either there was some information lost in the video formatting or if it requires a different code (which I don't know why it would but who knows).

I started with the 'GDPQOJ QK QCO BCKPQP DO QKO OTT' and went at it like a substitution cipher, looking for common patterns and frequent letter repeats (starting by assuming 'QCO' is 'THE' and 'QK' is 'TO'), and actually got a cohesive sentence for the first part:
'GDPQOJ QK QCO BCKPQP'
'LISTEN TO THE GHOSTS'

Which would make the known alphabet this:
ABCDEFGHIJKLMN OPQRSTUVWXYZ
..GHI....L.. NO......EST
And my assumed alphabet something like this:
ABCD EFGH I JK LMN OPQRST UVWXYZ
FGHI JKLM D NOPQR ESTUVW XY ZABC
I put 'D' under 'I' just because it didn't fit in the possible pattern. Other than 'O'-E and wherever 'D' fits in everything is shifted just a few letters down, which I took as a good sign.

However, using that letter substitution the last part translates to
'DO QKO OTT'
' IE TOE EWW'
Which... is pretty much nonsense lol. The 'W' is assuming the pattern is uninterrupted from Q-T though, so it may actually be a different letter. Heck, it could even be D which would make it 'IE TOE EDD' xD

So I don't know! If it's a fluke it's a fluke that fits in with previous message really really well and if it's not then the last part may have just been obscured or there could be meaning there that we don't know of yet. I did think it was kind of weird that the last bit of Morse code on there is spread out so much, so maybe there are just some bits that are missing?

Either way I figured I post my findings :)

Gunnr 03-17-2017 10:19 PM

Didn't have too much time but took a crack at the pigeon+whatever other decoded letter :\
I didn't get too far as quite a few of the symbols look similar(used that master cipher) and thus gave me multiple answers. Still not sure on the glyphs that were too faded and I know there are still other similar glyphs not noted in my chart(below) i had to stop and was getting kinda ridiculous for the short time I had on it. I mean look at it :p

Note: I Color coded the "answers" to their corresponding glyph set...hoo. -_-

Glyph trip https://imgur.com/gallery/N2o4P

Wip, later

Wiese 03-18-2017 05:09 AM

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'GDPQOJ QK QCO BCKPQP'
'LISTEN TO THE GHOSTS'

So this part looks very promising, since this phrase appeared in some other code before!

Silver angel 03-18-2017 05:19 AM

I have feeling that last word in 'DO QKO OTT' can be "ODD" because it has two same letters.

Vince 03-18-2017 05:57 AM

I always miss so much of these.

One thing I did notice though, is that the Alf's Escape DLC is being sold for 73% off.
As we all know, SEVENTYTHREE was an unsolved clue obtained from a T9 decipher back from Image 2, if I recall correctly.

Varstahl 03-18-2017 06:22 AM

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Nice! Wiese and Varstahl, those high quality and cleaned up versions of the codes help so much! :D

'DO QKO OTT'
'IE TOE EWW'

What I noticed is that the second part when reversing dot/dash makes some bit of sense. For example, OTT reversed in morse is SEE. At this point I'll go out on a limb and declare that part a "DO YOU SEE?". How to get that though… But it would make sense, as even that is a reference.

But I'm more worried about the "Listen to the ghosts". It seems clear that there actually IS something in the audio track we didn't quite get. I'll try to get back to it, maybe download a better version of the audio, we'll see. I did again but I think they're just referring to the white noise. Either that or I'm unable to extrapolate/isolate properly.

AvengingGibbons 03-18-2017 07:26 AM

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I did again but I think they're just referring to the white noise. Either that or I'm unable to extrapolate/isolate properly.

What video/audio are you referring to? can u send a link?

Varstahl 03-18-2017 07:42 AM

The video we're trying to take stuff out of.
I got its m4a AAC audio with youtube-dl.