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Manco 05-02-2011 03:37 PM

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I dunno... that's something I would never judge people on. Fiction and the fantasies of people is not what they should be judged on. I bet the majority of us have had fantasies of beating someone up or even committing worse actions to people we feel deserve it.
The mind is a playground. Writing fiction just helps one cope with the darker things.

I see what you're getting at here, but I think there's a distinction between "keeping fantasies private" and "writing fiction about those fantasies, writing several drafts of said fiction (putting that kind of thought and effort into it is kind of creepy), keeping it in a place your mother could find, and then talking about it on the internet like it's no big deal".

Havoc 05-02-2011 03:43 PM

What kind of rape fiction are we talking about anyway? Is it fiction from the aggressors point of view or the victims point of view? Because there's a rather large difference there.

If you fantasize about raping someone I would actually get some help, because things like that tend to escalate rather quickly. Fantasizing about being raped however is something else entirely. That can be a serious turn on for some people, which actually includes my GF. Some of the stuff she sometimes wants me to do to her is not very... well, boyfriend like.

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He's a bad person for the shit he spews out <.< !!
T-nex, what ever happened between us? We used to be such close, close, CLOSE friends. Ah, good times.

T-nex 05-02-2011 03:58 PM

OddHunter....

Look up HR Giger. I bet most if not all of us know who he is. He used to have terrible night terrors, but he coped by doing art therapy. He created and put effort into SERIOUSLY creepy and fucked up shit.

I know that comparing a teenager's weird fantasy-fiction to a great artist doesn't make much sense. But what I'm, saying is that certain people just put effort in creating painting or stories to deal with latent thoughts.

Also, I suggest looking into it if it creeps you out. You will find that rape fantasies do not mean that they want it to happen irl. It's a touchy area. But a lot of women have it, and it can be explained by the fact that women find it hot to be subjugated by a male or female and be done things to 'against' their will, thus removing the guilt of them wanting such forbidden pleasures.

Hey I want to be subjugated :D Its hot. Really, no harm in that as long as both consent to it. Yes... Consensual rape... A mystery.

Also, I have no idea why it's so weird for girls to be submissive nowadays O_o ... Not accusing anyone of thinking it's weird. Just saying.

Edit: Also, Havoc, you be trollin'!

Wings of Fire 05-02-2011 05:28 PM

There's nothing inherently wrong with producing and supporting rape fiction, there is something fucked up about being so obnoxious about it.

enchilado 05-02-2011 05:44 PM

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I bet the majority of us have had fantasies of beating someone up or even committing worse actions to people we feel deserve it.

I usually think whatever they did was my fault and feel miserable.

T-nex 05-02-2011 05:54 PM

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I usually think whatever they did was my fault and feel miserable.

You should channel that into fantasies of beating them up!

Manco 05-03-2011 02:27 AM

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OddHunter....

Look up HR Giger. I bet most if not all of us know who he is. He used to have terrible night terrors, but he coped by doing art therapy. He created and put effort into SERIOUSLY creepy and fucked up shit.

I know that comparing a teenager's weird fantasy-fiction to a great artist doesn't make much sense. But what I'm, saying is that certain people just put effort in creating painting or stories to deal with latent thoughts.

I dunno, I can understand doing it for the sake of coping, but Gwan-Thwei didn't come across as someone in need of a coping mechanism. Being so blasé about the subject implies he's not exactly doing it for the sake of his health.

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There's nothing inherently wrong with producing and supporting rape fiction, there is something fucked up about being so obnoxious about it.

Pretty much this.

T-nex 05-03-2011 02:37 AM

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I dunno, I can understand doing it for the sake of coping, but Gwan-Thwei didn't come across as someone in need of a coping mechanism. Being so blasé about the subject implies he's not exactly doing it for the sake of his health.

Yes but being someone with similar fantasies, I can relate. Creating drawings and writing down my fantasies helped me 'cope'... And I don't mean in the way that I was depressed and shit. But having unobtainable fantasies and specially when they are this dodgy is kind of shitty. Mainly because of the fact that for some reason you keep wanting it and can't have it, secondly because it's so wrong and one feels like a freak.
Having a more spirited attitude about isn't wrong Imo... It's just accepting oneself and the limitations one has. I at least managed to convert my fantasies into something more... consensual :p

But I may be too tolerant or something....

And I don't mean to white-knight either, but I just wanted to make sure that its not for the wrong reasons that you'd think Gwan-thwei is terrible or whatever.

STM 05-03-2011 08:07 AM

I think we need a healthy change in subject here...too much negative enzymes floating around. Yes enzymes folks, you're all denaturing my active site with your heated arguments!

I so have biology itb this year!

T-nex 05-03-2011 08:12 AM

WTF STM YOU FKER!! im kidding. I don't see any heated argument.

Am I really so tolerant that I just miss the point of what's too much and too little?

Am I a... freak?????? :(

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 08:15 AM

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Am I really so tolerant that I just miss the point of what's too much and too little?

Saying things that are socially unacceptable in public is too much.

Not showing me your breasts is too little.

Havoc 05-03-2011 08:24 AM

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Saying things that are socially unacceptable in public is too much.

Not showing me your breasts is too little.

Don't agree with the first one but he has a good point on the second.

T-nex 05-03-2011 08:24 AM

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Saying things that are socially unacceptable in public is too much.

I do this

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Not showing me your breasts is too little.
I dont do this.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 08:30 AM

And you both missed the joke.

Goresplatter 05-03-2011 08:59 AM

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*Story*

Oh god, that was hilarious. Bravo :D

EDIT: This post lacks content. So I'll comment on a few other things.

Why is it that so many girls seem to like this 'rape fantasy' thing? Every one I ask, and every girl I've ever gotten with (including current girlfriend) has a similar thing for being dominated. Do not understand, please explain.

Also, ask me anything, I'm pretty liberal so I'll most certainly answer.

T-nex 05-03-2011 09:34 AM

Well.... Submissiveness.... I think is either a result of upbringing or its just always been there.(I dunno if its genetical or soemthing like that). I think in less nice cases it could be a result of something bad happening to a person :(


I can tell you that since I was a little kid, I loved submissive things that now make sense to me. I remember in the playground there'd be a huge tag game of guys after girls... And I got really excited when a guy caught me.
I remember when two guys decided to trap me in a cage-like thing. That made me really excited too. Creepy thing is I wanted them to keep 'tormenting' me.
So I dunno if submissiveness has always been with me, or if something caused it.
Submissiveness and rape-fantasies do often go hand in hand.

I don't know what to tell you other than it's sexy to be taken charge of.
Rape-fantasies like I said before is more of a matter of subjugation. NO sane girl would ever want a 'real' rape. I've never ever heard of girls who enjoyed real rape, not even those with rape-fantasies. And try to imagine being raped, and being traumatized, but still having rape-fantasies. It's bound to make one feel like a freak.

It's just about being in one person's clutches and not being able to say no, thus enjoyed dirty things without feeling they are dirty themselves, since it's being forced upon. But they also want to feel safe of course.

Anyway, thats just my experience. No one -really- wants to be raped. But Im guessing that since it's in one's fantasies, to get the most out of it, the mind 'extremefies' the thoughts :p

And yea. Many women do have these fantasies. Personally I think it should just be embraced and turned into fun sex-games, rather than feel ashamed over something that cant be changed.

It maybe could be changed in certain situations... I don't know, I've never heard of it.

STM 05-03-2011 09:34 AM

Indeed you are but it's ok, I just gave you a theme!



Are you the creep or the girl with the skin like an angel? I'll leave you to decide.

T-nex 05-03-2011 09:35 AM

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Indeed you are but it's ok, I just gave you a theme!



Are you the creep or the girl with the skin like an angel? I'll leave you to decide.

How is this relevant to the thread in any way? Am I missing something?

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 09:40 AM

I think STM's trying to be deep.

There's only one kind of deep allowed in this thread and that's deepthroating

STM 05-03-2011 10:07 AM

No wonder that makes no fucking sense there's a whole fucking new page to this thing that I missed so ignore that last one unless you wanna go back to the comment before last.

@WoF don't forget deep penetration teehee

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 10:11 AM

That reminds me that my ex-boyfriend had an absolutely huuuuuge penis and it was fun to play with.

STM 05-03-2011 10:19 AM

Mine's fun to play with...but only I am allowed to play with my toys at the moment. I'm worried people won't treat them properly.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 10:21 AM

If people wanted to hear how fun it was to play with their own penises we'd have made a masturbation thread.

As a matter of fact we had one once. Those were the days.

STM 05-03-2011 10:32 AM

Indeed, but you started this escapade Wingsy not I.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 10:36 AM

Not really. I followed on from your deep penetration uh.. 'joke' with my usual awkward/endearing style about my ex boyfriend. Something clearly sex related.

Then you mentioned how fun it is to masturbate

ewww

gross

creeper

STM 05-03-2011 10:47 AM

sssssssssss. Creeper.

And masturbation is a perfectly natural part of growing up Wings of the Shire, don't worry, eventually you'll find that perfect spot of sexual happiness just like everyone else. x

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 10:51 AM

You're a virgin, Shut up.

STM 05-03-2011 10:55 AM

Yes I am indeed, and proud of it! It's my choice, I turned a girl down who offered once because I didn't feel like it so shut up with that being a bad thing right now missy.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 10:57 AM

I have no idea what you're trying to say with your last few posts and I'm reasonably sure you don't either.

Before posting a witty comeback, please make sure it at least makes sense. Wit is a bonus, but coherence is pretty mandatory.

T-nex 05-03-2011 11:08 AM

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Yes I am indeed, and proud of it! It's my choice, I turned a girl down who offered once because I didn't feel like it so shut up with that being a bad thing right now missy.

GAY!



Anyway I was a virgin till I met Chris :3

Dixanadu 05-03-2011 11:26 AM

Guys, please.

I'll be the object of your sexual frustrations, no matter how aggressive.

Crashpunk 05-03-2011 11:32 AM

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Yes I am indeed, and proud of it!

Did I read that right? How can you be proud of being a Virgin?

OddjobAbe 05-03-2011 11:49 AM

It's what religion does to you.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 11:59 AM

It's also youthful arrogance. I was very proud of my virginity until I lost it too.

STM 05-03-2011 12:01 PM

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GAY!



Anyway I was a virgin till I met Chris :3

Not gay, patient to find the right person to be happy with actually, just because that doesn't happen much any more what with a lot people fucking anything that moves, I'm happy to find love first...or not, depending on how things go in Cancun this summer.

Wings of Fire 05-03-2011 12:04 PM

With the weary certainty of someone who just read twenty pages worth of revision on attitudes in social psychology, I assure you that when you get laid you'll change your attitude and either marginalize your opinions now or be embarrassed by them.

STM 05-03-2011 12:18 PM

what do you mean marginalise or be embarrassed by my options I don't understand.

EDIT: @ Crashpunk - Perhaps not proud but I certainly don't care very much, I have more important things to worry about...perhaps I'm being naive but I don't think so, if I have had the chance to have sex and dismissed it then I think I simply have strong will power.

metroixer 05-03-2011 01:31 PM

nope sorry your penis pretty much takes over for you when a girl really wants to gets naked in front of you no amount of will power will help

Dixanadu 05-03-2011 01:33 PM

Metroixer is right. No matter how hard you promise you'll lose it with someone you love, if she's willing to put out, you'll go into a horny/berserk mode.

T-nex 05-03-2011 01:36 PM

Unless he's gay! :tard: