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MA 06-14-2014 05:30 PM

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Yeah, the biological argument for gender roles gets less credible every month. African-American people are generally bigger than people of Asian descent - doesn't justify a bunch of Asians beating up a black guy. If someone is being abused, they are the victim and they deserve help. And that's that.

but the shit i was babbling on about with heights/weights/muscle-mass etc is true. male (humans) tend to be heavier animals. obviously you'll have exceptions, but the majority will show that. it's just common sense. don't swing your arms around.

i'm not advocating abuse, i'm saying "if you are physically bigger than someone, you should probably be more careful" which is common sense. like i've been saying. common sense. civility. so why am i being given the fucking third degree with an Asian/African-American argument? i wasn't saying that at all.

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The bottom line is that highlighting the hypocrises present in progressive society (in theory) makes that society stronger for everyone. Awareness is not a zero-sum game; the 40% deserve a fair shout, because it makes it a lot easier for them to stand in solidarity with the 60%.

I mean, imagine if the man in the street took male rape victims seriously. Yeah, they're a minority, but they've got privelige. Rape convictions would skyrocket if people believed this was something that happened to handsome white men, and not just drunken women looking for trouble.

i wasn't saying the 40% shouldn't have their voices heard, i'm all for that. i was just pointing out that they're a minority (although a hefty chunk) and that could be due, in part, to all the shit i was talking about from the biological point of view. and no, i'm not taking an archaic WE ARE BUILT AS MEN AND ACT AS SUCH, WOMEN IN KITCHEN MAKE SANDWICHES DO DISHES

fuck that. i'm just trying to be a realist. if you are physically bigger than another organism, and you're not a nice person, you will bully and take and do whatever the fuck you like with that organism because who's going to stop you? and believe me, it's shit just like that that causes a lot of domestic disputes between partners, and yeah, they almost always end up being a woman under threat of violence from their 'loving' male partner.

honestly, there's almost an 'underground' element to it where people seem to grow up surrounded by terrible, violent parents and parenting so that it becomes the norm and women are treated like second class citizens, so when they find a partner they'll do exactly the fucking same. like animals. and yes, this is in England. it goes on absolutely everywhere, and it needs to be stamped out, and the biggest perpetrator seems to be the males. the stats show it. that's allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll i was saying motherfucker.

you're more paranoid than me. seriously. the entirety of this reply is just basically saying "i didn't say/mean that".

MeechMunchie 06-15-2014 05:21 AM

Because you seemed to interpret me mentioning an issue as me wanting it to preclude other issues - which is dangerously widespread assumption in itself.

Like I said: Awareness is not a zero-sum game.

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but the shit i was babbling on about with heights/weights/muscle-mass etc is true. male (humans) tend to be heavier animals.

i'm saying "if you are physically bigger than someone, you should probably be more careful"

And the point I'm trying to make is that physical stats should have fuck-all to do with it. Forget "don't beat up people smaller than you", what's wrong with "don't beat people up"?

MA 06-16-2014 06:19 AM

yeah right okay i was saying it's fine to beat the shit out of someone so long as you're not bigger than them. that's, like, so obviously exactly what i was saying. fucking whatever.

OANST 06-16-2014 06:37 AM

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Because you seemed to interpret me mentioning an issue as me wanting it to preclude other issues - which is dangerously widespread assumption in itself.

This is a problem that this forum has in spades. Basically, if you don't accept one aspect of a problem as the only aspect of a problem, you get labeled as a right wing nutjob. And let's be honest, there is little in my life that could be looked at, and called right wing. If you deny any aspect of the truth of a situation because it isn't the truth that you want to discuss then you are merely polarizing the sides of the argument, and nothing will ever get done. And that's fucking stupid.

MeechMunchie 06-16-2014 04:28 PM

Remember, folks: Ideas are like diseases. The stronger they are, the more they spread. And the only way to make them stronger is by relentlessly picking at them until they're forced to adapt.

In other words, I make a point of disagreeing with aspects of things I mainly agree with.

Wings of Fire 06-16-2014 04:36 PM

OANST's opinion of welfare is still bullshit though.

MeechMunchie 06-16-2014 05:29 PM

Amen to that.

OANST 06-17-2014 07:07 AM

Except that I never actually offered an opinion on it. I offered an opinion on your hyperbole, and put out there that there are actually points to be made on the other side of it. I said from the beginning that what they were doing is wrong. But denying the validity of all of their points just on the principle that you hate them, and that the solution they came up with doesn't work, or actually speak to all the problems, does no one any good. It was you that decided that my opinion was right wing jibberish, and yes, my opinion was colored by the way things work here, assuming that the British unemployment problem couldn't be too dissimilar to the Detroit area's problem. Which may have been a mistake on my part.

MA 06-17-2014 07:27 AM

shut up, Hitler. it's your fault i'm out of work.

i was sat on a cactus earlier. my apologies.

OANST 06-17-2014 08:06 AM

Shutting down Hitler mode. For now.....

Job McYossie 06-17-2014 02:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzC4EQJnM3Q

Still can't figure out how to embed video, but here ya go.

Phylum 06-17-2014 03:01 PM

http://i.imgur.com/l7v3Dae.png

Quote this post if you still need to see it in action.



That's her video by the way I would never post this

STM 06-17-2014 03:07 PM

Below the video on Youtube there's a 'share' tab, click that and then copy-paste the embed html blorp thing.

Also lol.


Fuck sake Phylum

MeechMunchie 06-17-2014 03:22 PM



You can also right-click a video and hit "Copy embed code".

Phylum 06-17-2014 03:23 PM

Fuck you STM that's payback for the 2012 forum awards.

STM 06-17-2014 03:47 PM

I hosted the fucking forum awards fair and fucking square!

Phylum 06-17-2014 03:53 PM

Only because you posted your fucking thread less than a minute earlier, you fuck.

STM 06-17-2014 04:39 PM

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Nate 06-17-2014 05:43 PM

There's only one way this can be resolved.

JELLY WRESTLING!!!

Crashpunk 06-18-2014 12:58 AM

So this was released after a countdown clock on the TF2 Site.

Team Fortress 2 Short Movie. And it's one of the best things Valve have ever produced.

Job McYossie 06-18-2014 01:28 AM

It was surprisingly good. I've always enjoyed the TF2 videos, but this takes the bread.

Phylum 06-18-2014 06:04 PM

This made me laugh more than it should have.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...8c2239712bafc7

Disclaimer: My amusement might be due to having met the guy.

Varrok 06-19-2014 01:33 AM

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So this was released after a countdown clock on the TF2 Site.

Team Fortress 2 Short Movie. And it's one of the best things Valve have ever produced.





Wings of Fire 06-19-2014 03:20 PM



Anyone here want to batoru?

(This show was so bad)

Phylum 06-19-2014 05:58 PM

I got Aslan!

Which Lion From ‘The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe’ Are You?

Vyrien 06-20-2014 05:12 AM

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Anyone here want to batoru?

(This show was so bad)

Akuma no Riddle or go home.

Varrok 06-20-2014 05:16 AM

Oh no, Vyrien destroyed the thread!

Nate 06-20-2014 05:45 AM

He's damn lucky that we've got an engineer as mod. Gods bless these problem-solving skills!

Vyrien 06-20-2014 05:50 AM

Whups. Sorry!

Varrok 06-20-2014 06:11 AM

She*