I believe in God. I just don't believe in religion. Not saying I couldn't be wrong either way, either. I've been all over the place when it comes to this issue. One year I was sure he existed. The next I was Agnostic. Then for like three years I was Atheist, then I was Agnostic again.

Then I decided that something probably exists on a level we can't understand, and one of those things probably had a hand in our creation. But I don't think it is most likely the God depicted by most religions. It could be very much like it (since I do find it interesting that most cultures and religions can at least agree that there is a "God like figure" above), but I don't believe any religion is right.

The way I see it, religions haven't changed one bit since the olden days of Greek mythology. It's all just humans trying to explain things they can't understand by making stories that explain it, most stories being based on something similar happening in real life with a huge twist.

@Alcar a few posts back - I do and have read the Bible twice in fact, and I studied it over a three year period. I believe all good Greeks have gone to Purgatory so yes, forgiving God, read the divine comedy Purgatorio. A religion dies when it has no active followers any more therefore to me, it is a dead religion now and no longer exists it has few true believers if any. Anyway, I disregard all religions except Islam, Christianity and Jewish, Jewish because my faith stems from theirs, and Islam because they believe in Jesus as well as God, therefore, same people different name.

@Mac, because then every God hates you (including the false gods ((note lack of capitalisation there)) such as Vishnu and Asherah instead of just one!) ;)

The thing is I don't have problems with any follower of any good religion, I just don't believe in their gods and reject them as believers of false gods with no powers.

@Meech Munchie, is it a good book? I was actually going to buy it

Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid

This is how I feel for the most part.
I wouldn't be surprised if our creation was a complete accident, and I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of cosmic intelligence had a hand in it. Given the statistical immensities we're dealing with, there are so many possibilities.
I firmly believe, however, that if there ever was an intelligence behind our creation that it was in no way, shape, or form as we describe it in our religious texts. Maybe it was a race of aliens. Maybe some kind of galactic consciousness. Maybe it died or moved on, or maybe it's still there. Who knows?

Please god be trolling...


Also, define 'Good'.

Well a bad religion is Satanism for example

Theistic, Atheistic/Deistic or Pseudo-Satanism?

Aslo, why?

Because it goes against the core precepts of his religion duuuh.

It's a pretty shitty religion though, aint that right Nemo?

I love it how that implies that Christianity is against individualism.

It isn't even a religion, ain't that right, Nemo?

Hey WoF c'mon, that's nasty. I'm sure there are things I could say about you, where you live, who you are and how you act. Hold your tongue if you can't say anything remotely intelligent. Ain't that right Nemo?

Anybody else think of this:
http://imgur.com/toR8o.png
(The fish from Finding Nemo dripping blood of a dead goat on his head)

I can honestly say I didnt think of this, but bravo.

Go for it. I'm all ears.
Take your own advice?

But you see I was trying at least.

And to silence you in a sentence: You are a Glaswegian and I frown upon you, please don't tell me your a McDonald or a Campbell or suming as well!

You didn't love thy neighbour and are now going to hell. Well done, hero.

Actually I'm a Staffordian and a Doubtfire.

Any jokes about my mother burning her breasts or being a dude will be met with prompt negrep.

His mom is a dude.

neg rep war you want aye! Well, I can proudly link myself back to the Irish Hussey's who caused the Irish uprisings and led the Irish Brotherhood, or the Wallace's amongst the fighters who led the Scottish armies south and fought in the Battle of Sterling. Suck it burnt boobs! (neg rep me and I can plenty neg rep you)

Your mom did drugs while she was pregnant. I know because I gave them to her right before she sucked my dick. HOOOAAAAA!

Considering Scrabtrap's rep power, I dont think you have anything to worry about.

Woops.

I'm hoping that Nate can see the humor in my post.

I may be prepared to ignore it if it doesn't happen again soon.Or, you know, 4.2 light years away.

Scrabtrapman; I really want to debate with you but after reading the last two pages I have absolutely no idea what your point is. Try to assemble a coherent argument and I'll be happy to repond.

Whoops.

I was going to back that up with a statement about the closet known 'Earth-like' planets, but alas, that's pegged at 14 light years.

Silly me.

Alcar...

Right, what are debating over now, the existence of God or space and time? My bees kept me up for too long and I had to extract 40lbs of honey from the hive. NM fun after a while.

How about this,

If God exists and he reveals himself in the so called apocalypse, would you then be terrified as you realize how wrong you where, or would you still disregard him?

I'd really focus more on trying to survive.

Living > Being Wrong

I'd still disregard him to fuck him off. Just a casual, "S'up." with a nod of a head.

Also, Scrabtrapman has yet to answer my Satanism questions.

Your answer is fuck you.


I'm leaving the forums again.

Sorry Josh, what question?

You never specified why you dislike it and which branch.

Sorry, I dislike Satanism in all forms because it contradicts everything I stand for + most people in Satanism are evil nutters. They venerate Lucifer, the fly and the devil. Most Satanists, especially the Endor Coven (P.S. Endor, wth Star Wars much?) believe that the serpent of Eden revealed truth and allowed humanity to make it's own decisions. I'm not actually a traditional creationist but the principal to me is messed up.

Just look at Anton LaVey!

Judging by your riveting theories in astronomical sciences I can tell that you are an expert in this subject as well.

LaVey was a nutbag, true, but Satanism isn't just a load of evil ideas. Individualism (you are the most important person in your world) is somewhat a good thing. And to quote the current head of the Satanic Church:

No yeah, don't listen to the nutbag, that's too much of a radical idea for you.

If anyone needs me I'll be in the angry dome.

Just look at LaVey!

That was a really good argument, truly astounding.

Just so we're clear, i'm not a satanist.

Just so we're clear, I despise Anton LaVey.

But I actually have reasons.

Wait, nevermind. I just realised how stupid 5 posts up is. I'll go and sit in the corner now.