I agree. In the original, it wasn't the graphics that made the game look and feel menacing but the music and most especially the gameplay. You got shot, you died. You got touched by a scrab or a paramite or a laser you died. It wasn't forgiving at all. The quicksave in Exoddus made the game a bit more forgiving, until you accidentally pressed the quicksave button instead of the quickload button right before dying...

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree here due to the fact that this idea is detracting away from the originality of the game. Make the area seem wet and glossy yeah. Make the factory seem boiling hot and uncomfortable, yes. But new deaths by standing on hot floors and waggling in the water is something that i'd see in Munches Oddysee and its kind of humor. Honestly it reminds me of crash bandicoot dying and getting angel wings and floating up to heaven. It doesnt work in the AO scene. I am however keen on seeing the new fizzle deaths :)

The Malfunctioning bit of machinery, while it being new, it works because there was an electrical hazard there. I think if he is falling into water, it'd need to be subtle. Like a sploosh sound at the end of the drop with a bone cracking sound too.

oh god those endless falling loops lol.

But you're right, scrabs looked like horses in AO and because of their size and bulkiness, it felt menacing. But i totally agree that a good percentage of the Abes oddysee atmosphere was menace. It had its own form of beauty.

Personally, I don't think scrabs ever looked silly running. I have to agree withSTM about the Scrabanian Nests music, I fucking love that. Pity it wasn't in the rip or official soundtrack.

We've never seen Abe injured, have we? He's always either in top form, or dead.

I always loved the way scrabs moved as sprites. They only looked silly running in 3D (walking was fine). I thought in Munch that that was because they were animated differently, but it may be a matter of perspective.

To be fair, limbs with only a single joint, and a hinge one at that, are never going to move in a normal or familiar fashion. There is absolutely nothing like it on Earth.

I thought there was a ball-and-socket at their 4-way pelvis thing. Or do you mean that they don't have ankles?

I don't think so. I think the one-hit-kills definitely added, if not created the tension in the first games and certainly hope they remain in New 'n' Tasty!

Abe could take multiple beestings though, and multiple hits from fleeches in Exoddus, which was far more believable given those creatures are small. I suppose we could see some visual effect on Abe (bruises, cuts, swollen stings etc) in the game, but nothing that impairs his actions. The game would be impossible then!

Jesus though it would be good to have some different death noises. I just came off a session playing that bit in Paramonia with the prickly balls...Abe's WOOOOOAH has driven me insane.

So we haven't really talked about the Logo for New 'N' Tasty. I was going to bring it up earlier but the discussion about the Portal went on for ages.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5457/8...7ecbc47983.jpg

I personally like it. I think the Glukkon head is a bit streched at the bottom though.

He looks like a mix of a Glukkon and a frog because of that neck. The color choices are weird. I'd have used red, orange, brown, and black or something. Otherwise, it's great.

I love the use of colours! The logo retains the Oddworld feel which is great.

What oddworld feel?

Oh, and the old logo:
http://speeddemosarchive.com/gfx/AbesOddysee_1.jpg
(It's kinda lame, if you look at it now)

I think it looks fine. They could always change the neckline to look like a collar or something.

Since the game is so early in development, don't you think it's just a quick mockup for publicity purposes? It's awful overall, but if you take away the saw and the evil frog head, you're left with the lettering, which I love! Like I say, hopefully just a quick mock-up, but the lettering is lovely and I hope they keep that, if not make it even more delicious!

I agree that the lettering is awesome

I honestly think it looks like a tacky advert for surfing gear. The colours are horrendous and it just doesn't sit right in my opinion. Then again I may be the most over critical person walking this planet.

I agree with Connel. The only thing I really like is the lettering. I also hate the chosen title, I'd have gone with Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty if they had to use New'n'Tasty, but it's too late now.

We can just basically pre-determine everything Connel says now. You could just write, 'generic pissy statement' and we'd get the same message.

Looks fine, just got a phat neck.

Obligatory double post.

The feel you get from the logos in the series, I think it fits the style nicely.

I think the new logo looks very good, the colour choices are just a bit strange.

The color choices are ... purple and green? Like, the two colors that have consistently featured in the Quintology?

You mean Munch's Oddysee? Where's the green in AO and AE?

I honestly have no ideoh wait

The logo is yellow and blue, Manco.

I've just thought: to somebody who hasn't heard of New 'n' Tasty or Oddworld stuff, might the title be misread as 'New 'n' Jasty'? Don't dismiss me too quickly, because that fancy 'T' looks more like a J than a T... maybe a slight adjustment to the way the 'T' is drawn to avoid this confusion?

*does a quick research*

"Jasty: Something that is old news. Such as an old video, picture or news link posted on a forum."

Oddworld: New 'n' Old

And what colour do blue and yellow make?