It would be like a cockroach standing up to a boot.

A mutated cockroach with fire breath?

No, the kitchen kind.

The kitchen kind with fire breath?

No, the kind that's about aliens and astronomy. Y'know, the topic title.

Aren't Ufology and Astronomy two different things?

One is actually a science for one.

What would you class Ufology as, then?

A hobby.

And that's being very generous.

A pseudoscience.

Nate's not so generous.

No, I think I'm very generous. I'm allowing for the fact that the people who work in the field consider themselves scientists and not hobbyists.

they are differant but there linked as ufo's are generally percieved as containing aliens and aliens come from space and astronomy is looking at space, then again any randome two things are somehow linked if you think hard enough

Ufology and Astronomy are about as linked as Biology and the Holy Communion.

that's true, but if you think hard enough you can find a way too link anything in some crazy way. for example biology is the study of living creatures (I think) all living creatures need some sort of food and drink to survive, the holy communion involves consumption of bread and wine (in some cases grape juce) which are examples of food and drink.

I was going for Holy Communion being the body and blood of Jesus, but regardless this isn't really relevant.

As soon as a ufologist actually finds out what the hell it is that they're studying, it must necessarily leave their "department". They fumble in the dark, and if they actually find anything they pass it on up to real scientists, and spend the rest of their time making up outlandish stories about what they're looking for.

I don't think we'll ever reach FTL speeds.

...just saying.

me neither, the best I think we'll do is making something heat resistant enough to do a slingshot around our star, how fast does our sun move?

It makes a complete rotation every 25 days.

I hate the sun.

Faster than light travel is irrelevant when we have teleportation.

Fun fact: We will.

if I understand teleportation correctly than it would be at the speed of light, it would still take 4 years to get to alpha century (probably incorrectly spelt) 20 years to get to gliese, and as for the stars many thousands of light years away, the amount of lightyears = the amount of years to get there, and how would they get the probes to rematerialize when the signol eventially gets to it's destination, it would be a good step but it would hardly make FTL irelevant.

I was watching a show called "the universe" on 7mate and they came up with a theory, dark energy, a force continuously pushing the universe out, at first it was controled by gravity but the further apart the matter gets the less gravity affects the dark energy and thus increasing how fast the universe expands

The shows about that on Mate sprout speculation. Don't take them too seriously.

I was watching a show where "if" and "possibly" were the most common words. I wasn't watching it for long.

No, Dark Energy is pretty much part of established Physics canon at the moment. That said, it's really just a bit of a hand-wavey non-explanation for something that the physicists don't understand.

"The universe is expanding. We don't know why. There must be some energy source that we don't know about. Let's call it 'Dark Energy' until we find out what it is"

that pretty much sums it up

Yes, but when you use a teleporter you die.

it could still be used to transport objects and poeple with death wishes

EDIT: Deleted because it didn't make sense. I don't have to time to rephrase it.

I wonder if people succeed at making a teleporting machine, that would mean that they would be able to make an exact copy too? Cos that's what it essentially is as far as I understand.