I've always said I'd never get an iPod. Sure, they're sexy devices but they're way too trendy for my liking. My first mp3 player was a Creative one. So was the second, replaced under warrantee after the first died a painful death from falling. Which, come to think of it, is also how the second Creative one died - on the Ellis Island ferry. MP3 #3 was a Sony NW-HD5; a totally awesome player. Check out the reviews; the only bad thing any one can say about it is that you have to use the Sony software...