Hurr hurr Cupid's Really Been Getting Around Lately

Also just so we're all on the same page here, and I mean all of us, I really really do not want this bleeding onto the forums proper from either party and I'll come down like a brick made of shit on both circlejerking and unprovoked trolling.

We're a community, so let's everyone show one another a bit of respect.

I really hope this post isn't actually necessary, but there's nothing I hate more than unwritten rules or taboos. Besides, there's more than enough to bash Nep about without bringing this into it.

Also thank you MM for explaining MA's argument to me. I feel like a moron.

So to respond to your comment a few back, and to clarify what I meant (I was very, very tired by that point last night). I agree with you that LDR's are torture. I wouldn't be interested in one for precisely that reason. You can't hold the person in your arms, you can't have sex, you can't do things as a couple beyond 'Skype dates' or what-have-you. Plus the temptation of other people closer to home...I don't know if I'd have the strength to resist. I like to think I would but I don't know.

I met someone when I was 16, a 20 year old studying in her third year on an exchange programme from Iowa. We got on really well and actually nearly slept together despite the fact she had a bf (who later turned out to be a disgusting little worm). Any way, over the next two years we'd dance around the idea of oh how amazing it would be if we could enter into a relationship but, neither of us chose to because an LDR just wasn't good enough for us. Any way, she got into another relationship or two that broke down, we both did things with other people that we couldn't have done if we were together, but I suppose we were always tucked away at the back of each other's minds. Any way, it's been two years now and I'm moving in with her, hopefully before the end of the year, in time for Xmas, yadda yadda. We wouldn't ever have been in this position if we had gone into an LDR because it would have fizzled out. Now we have a shot at something real.

I would like to apologise for being passive-aggressive, to SB, Nep and yourself. I can assure you I'm a very open minded person and I did reflect on this today a little, I don't hold an opinion on it any more. I don't necessarily agree with someone under-age going out with someone who's legal but this is not my business.

So, I do have some experience in why people might be inclined not to go into LDR's, I never want one myself. Ultimately I just don't see them as real. I can't help that, it's just how my heart and brain are wired.

Yeah but Crashpunk wore out the pony jokes ages ago so you'll have to use something else. Dubstep, perhaps?

WoF: so your relationship failed, you have friends in a similar situation, you don't advocate LDRs, so what? all i see is you scrambling to defend bullshit like this everytime it pops up. lets be clear, i don't give a fuck about this blog or it's contents, they can live happily ever after for all i care. however, i do give a fuck about taboo's such as this one (age, consent), and i very much disagree with your consistent stance on it.

put simply, i'm honestly still waiting for an argument that may change my mind, because i don't understand how you changed yours. i'm not so stubborn as to just blindly repeat "i disagree" while not intending to change stance; i'm open to suggestion. it's just all suggestions i've ever heard on OWF in defence of this subject are fucking bullshit, and it would go against every moral fibre in my being to agree with them. in that sense, i doubt i'll ever agree with you. i think it's just pathetic and delusional, and i admit it enrages me, due to the ignorance.

Fact is I don't believe this has anything to do with pedophilia or the age of consent.

They are talking online. It's a controlled and safe environment. They've agreed not to take it further until they're both of legal age, a mature thing to do. I don't for one second believe that Slog Bait is either grooming Nep, or was initially attracted to him because of his physical or emotional immaturity. It's far far more likely that Nep just so happened to be 14 and love or infatuation or whatever you want to call it happened anyway.

This kind of thing happens all the time and is certainly not limited to online relationships.

Woooooooow okay. So yeah, I completely misread this blog entirely. I honestly thought it was just another OWF styled running joke.

I know it's kinda hard to convey feelings in text but trust me. I had no idea.

First of all Nep. I'm sorry for that pathetic comment. Again. I had no idea. And also the MLP thing I do is just a tease. I just want you to know that okay?

Secondly. I don't know Slog Bait at all. So I can't really say anything.

CONTRADICTION TIME!
There is something I don't like about this. (key note here guys: I)

It's not the age difference. (My uncle and auntie are 10 years apart and they are happily married)

Not the gender. (what happens in the bedroom. Stays in the bedroom.)

It's the distance.

Personally. I would hate a long distant relationship. I like to feel that physical connection right from the start. Not just sex like I would know T_T, but just. Being there.

My highlight of my last relationship was just lying together talking about random stuff. Yes you can talk about the same stuff over the net, but it's just not the same.

My general opinion on the matter however is that it all depends. It either works or it doesn't. Just like any other relationship. People who say long distant relationships never work have clearly not seen dating websites and the results from them. There is evidence of them working out fine.

Oh and if this turns out to be a joke all along (doubt it) and you guys are playing me like cunts. I will go fucking ape shit.

I love it when Chris scrambles and squeals around to apologize for something.

I don't know. I thought I recovered pretty well.

You got us, it's a big joke and everyone is in except you. ;D

nothing to do with age of consent.

okay.

If you have something to say then say it.

What exactly is Nep consenting to here?

nothing of course, but that doesn't mean it becomes totally irrelevant.

you see only what you want to see, then pick and choose what best suits you and disregard what doesn't. i suppose that's what i'm saying. as innocent as this is (and no i don't think anyone is grooming anyone for fuck sakes), age still applies. i know they're not meeting for two years and all that shit, but age still applies, even when not consenting to sex. saying age of consent doesn't apply just because they can't physically meet is fucking ridiculous. the age of consent is not exclusive to sex. picking and choosing.

I dont know what you're saying. You keep going on about the age of consent but you're not making any point, let alone backing it up.

Crashpunk, the pony jokes don't offend me or anything, they just get irritating because you do it constantly and it's never funny.

oh my fucking god. OANST was right, you guys really are a bunch of fucking geniuses.

you're a kid. that's what i'm saying. but i'm trying my best to use your situation as a neutral example, not trying to judge you.

Yes, but what part about that is significant?

your age.

It kind of is, I'm afraid. And I hate to break it to you, but "X is too young for Y" is and always has been an opinion. (Western) Consent laws aren't there to enforce anyone's personal beliefs on who should and should not be doing what, they're there as a legal safeguard to protect minors from exploitation - that's why police aren't patrolling behind school bikesheds.

welp, can't argue with Wikipedia. that must mean i'm a stupid cunt and that my argument falls apart. if it's any worth, i was using the age of consent as a guideline for when a child legally becomes a young adult. i'm not talking about sex, i'm talking about children dating adults. therefore: AGE.

but obviously no one cares about that now. and all it took was a quick Wiki search. kudos.

this place really grates on me now. it's like i've lost my tongue and no one can understand what the fuck i'm on about, nor do they give a shit. but that's seemingly due to my own blithering stupidity.

actually scratch that, you're all fucking idiots.

What exactly is wrong with the age difference? That's what you're not making clear. You're just talking about theage difference and AGAIN, you aren't making a point.

are you really this stupid or is it just for show?

will i need to reiterate that i'm not judging either of you, just trying to discuss a subject?

should i remind you i long since give up trying anyway?

can i say i don't give a flying monkey shit anymore?

I might just back up MA for a second. Age of consent may be about physical sex, but there is still a cultural taboo about large age gaps in relationships even when sex doesn't figure in to it. It's worse because Nepsotic is legally underage, but the principle applies regardless of legality.

I've always been a strong believer in the 'Half Age + 7' rule. And by that logic, Slog Bait shouldn't date anyone under 17. That's not about legality... that's about ickyness.

If it makes you feel better, it took me a good few comments to realise they were serious.

I think that argument boils down to 'It's wrong because it's wrong.' and well, I don't like that kind of argument. Call me a fucking genius or whatever.

Oh come on, we're all faggots here; do you seriously think this situation hasn't begot webcam shenanigans?

This situation hasn't begot webcam shenanigans. Some of you guys don't seem to understand how careful we're being about this. If I hadn't thought he was mature enough to handle an ldr this wouldn't be a thing right now. He actually really surprised me with how fucking prepared he was to work with a situation like this with both the age difference AND the distance, despite his outbursts from time to time. I'm still surprised. He was really on the ball. Damn.

Also, I'm not sure why but I've always had the "no more than 5 years difference and no one under 15" rule drilled into me? Had Nep still been 14 no matter what age I was there wouldn't be anything right now. I don't think I really understand the whole ickiness factor considering he's not an actual child. The idea of being involved with a child makes me sick to my stomach.

I knew there was going to be some controversy, and I appreciate even the smallest form of respect or support from everyone who's given it. To everyone else, you're just going to have to trust we won't be stupid about it.

That's basically what happened. I never pursued him, either, just so you all are perfectly aware.

MA, this is what I'm hearing:

"Nep's too young."
"Nep's too young, and it's wrong."
"Slog Bait's too old."
"Slog Bait's too old, and it's wrong."
"You shouldn't be dating."
"You shouldn't be dating, it's wrong."
"Teenagers shouldn't date adults."
"Teenagers shouldn't date adults, it's wrong."

Here's my question:

"WHY?!"

That's basically what I've been asking, but apparently the answer is that I'm an idiot who simply doesn't understand his obvious point.

you guys wear me down by asking the same questions over and over even though i've made my very simple point a BILLION times over now and as much as i would love to never utter it again through fear of going totally and utterly insane, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY IT

AGAIN

HERE WE GO



LOCK YOURSELVES IN






ONCE YOU REACH LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT YOU LEGALLY BECOME A YOUNG ADULT.

TADAA!!

YOUNG ADULT + YOUNG ADULT = whatevz
CHILD + CHILD = whatevz
ADULT + ADULT = whatevz
ADULT + YOUNG ADULT = whatevz
ADULT + CHILD = hang on a second
YOUNG ADULT + CHILD = wtf is this
ADULT + DONKEY = somethin weirds goin on
DWARF + CHILD = now thats just silly

see where it all goes disasterously wrong? well maybe not disasterously, but something goes wrong all the same.

that's all i meant. i just dont think it's a good idea for adults/young adults to date children. that's all. i know that may sound crazy, and i'm sorry if you disagree with such a far-out concept, but i really think it could work. if you could just find it in your hearts to consider this notion, maybe i won't have to shoot myself afterall.

can i go now? wipe my entire memory? crawl into a corner and fucking die?

HALLEFUCKINGLUJAH

I'm hardly a child.

you changed your post from "and?" i know, i saw.

you don't like making it easy, huh?