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299 792 458 m·s^−1 6.67384(80)×10−11 m³·kg^−1·s−2 6.626 069 57(29) × 10^−34 J·s 1.054 571 726(47) × 10^−34 J·s 4π × 10^−7 N·A^−2 = 1.256 637 061... × 10^−6 N·A^−2 8.854 187 817... × 10^−12 F·m−1 376.730 313 461... Ω 8.987 551 787... × 109 N·m²·C^−2 1.602 176 565(35) × 10^−19 C 9.274 009 68(20) × 10^−24 J·T^−1 7.748 091 7346(25) × 10^−5 S 12 906.403 7217(42) Ω 4.835 978 70(11) × 10^14 Hz·V−1 2.067 833 758(46) × 10^−15 Wb 5.050 783 53(11) × 10^−27 J·T^−1 25 812.807 4434(84) Ω 5.291 772 1092(17) × 10^−11 m 2.817 940 3267(27) × 10^−15 m 9.109 382 91(40) × 10^−31 kg 1.166 364(5) × 10^−5 GeV^−2 7.297 352 5698(24) × 10^−3 4.359 744 34(19) × 10^−18 J 1.672 621 777(74) × 10^−27 kg 3.636 947 5520(24) × 10^−4 m² s^−1 10 973 731.568 539(55) m^−1 6.652 458 734(13) × 10^−29 m² 0.2223(21) 1.660 538 921(73) × 10^−27 kg 6.022 141 29(27) × 10^23 mol^−1

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The criminalisaton of miscarriage.

Posted 08-15-2012 at 03:36 PM by Bullet Magnet
They're at it again. This is what we can expect from a Romney/Ryan administration. It's unlikely to pass, but at this point it matters less than you'd think.

Once an embryo is considered a person, it's safety is in the interest of the state. This means that the mother can be charged with criminal negligence or endangerment by eating the wrong foods or doing the wrong activity. In the interests of keeping it safe, because child services cannot remove the child, the state must have total control over the life of the mother for the duration of her pregnancy.

This is not some silly overlooked consequence of such a law. This is no bug. It is a feature. It has always been the goal.

Don't believe that they would go to such lengths? In Georgia a bill in the legislature (which fortunately did not pass, though I don't know how it got so far) sought to criminalise miscarriages. A woman who could not prove that she had not done anything whatsoever to cause her miscarriage could have faced death or life imprisonment.

It's already happening. Mississippi 2006, a pregnant 15 year old had a stillbirth. Upon discovery that she had had a cocaine habit during her pregnancy she was charged with "depraved-heart murder" of her child even though there is no known causative link between cocaine and miscarriage. If found guilty she faces a mandatory life sentence.

Or in Indianapolis last year, the severely depressed Bei Bei Shuai, whose baby died shortly after birth as a result of her nearly successful suicide attempt (after her boyfriend revealed he was married with another family and left her). She spent 435 days in prison before she made the $50,000 bail, and if convicted faces 45-65 years in prison.

Or Amanda Kimbrough of Alabama, who was convicted of the chemical endangerment of a child when she took meth once during her pregnancy (she had a history of meth abuse) and her son was born premature and died after nineteen minutes. Though it is likely that this was something to do with his Down's Syndrome, and Kimbrough had actually chosen not to abort after learning this. She was advised to plead guilty and got ten years. She is one of over 60 Alabaman mothers who were charged with chemical endangerment as a result of continuing with their pregnancies in spite of a drug problem.

And earlier this year, Georgia actually passed a bill banning all abortions passed 20 weeks even when the foetus is already dead, forcing women to carry their dead children for as long as their body keeps them. During the debate, Representative Terry England argued that women should carry their dead foetuses to term because that's what farm animals have to do! Blatant, open comparison of women with livestock. Make no mistake, this is the true face of this lobby, and they could not sink lower if they tried.

This is the wet dream of the anti-choice, anti-women, pro-imprisonment (I refuse to call them "pro-life") crowd made reality. It is what they want. It is what they have fought so hard for all these years.

And I hate every single one of them. I hold them all personally responsible for the horrors they have made possible.

And this is far from the worst of it.
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Nepsotic's Avatar
It is fucking stupid. A foetus isn't self aware nor does it have a consciousness and think in the way that developed humans do. It couldn't even be described as killing as underdeveloped babies aren't properly alive yet. You know what I mean.
I don't want to go into this subject, it pisses me off.
Posted 08-15-2012 at 03:54 PM by Nepsotic

Nate's Avatar
I have no issue with charging women for behaving in such a way that it affects the (still living) fetus. If a woman takes meth and the child is born with Down's, that's child abuse.



The abortion stuff is bullshit though.
Posted 08-15-2012 at 04:51 PM by Nate

T-nex's Avatar
But nate what if the girl isnt aware of being pregnant till many months after?
Posted 08-15-2012 at 06:25 PM by T-nex

Nate's Avatar
In that case, she probably shouldn't be found guilty.
Posted 08-15-2012 at 06:40 PM by Nate

Jordan's Avatar
ughhh i hate everything
Posted 08-16-2012 at 12:20 AM by Jordan

DarkHoodness's Avatar
My faith in humanity drops significantly each time I read about shit like this - And what's worse is that at the same time it doesn't surprise me either.

At least word is being spread about this though.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 12:55 AM by DarkHoodness

JennyGenesis's Avatar
Only in America folks.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 02:47 AM by JennyGenesis

DarkHoodness's Avatar
Much, much worse things happen elsewhere, and you don't get to hear about them.

Doesn't make what's going on with this any better, though.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 02:53 AM by DarkHoodness

MeechMunchie's Avatar
If I weren't on holiday I'd be really pissed off right now.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 05:26 AM by MeechMunchie

Havoc's Avatar
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Much, much worse things happen elsewhere, and you don't get to hear about them.
You're right, America is the only third world country we ever here this stuff coming from.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 05:33 AM by Havoc

MeechMunchie's Avatar
Havoc's right. Holland is a real shithole.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 05:53 AM by MeechMunchie

OANST's Avatar
At least there isn't a comic.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 05:59 AM by OANST

Mac Sirloin's Avatar
Oh, good. I hate babies.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 07:00 AM by Mac Sirloin

Bullet Magnet's Avatar
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I have no issue with charging women for behaving in such a way that it affects the (still living) fetus. If a woman takes meth and the child is born with Down's, that's child abuse.
Down's syndrome is a chromosomal disorder. It cannot be brought about by any human means besides a fully-staffed cytology lab.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 08:42 AM by Bullet Magnet

MeechMunchie's Avatar
It's that meth, it was full of extra chromosomes.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 09:10 AM by MeechMunchie

Nepsotic's Avatar
Or just one extra chromosome. That's all you need. Or half of one.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 11:18 AM by Nepsotic

Nate's Avatar
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Down's syndrome is a chromosomal disorder. It cannot be brought about by any human means besides a fully-staffed cytology lab.
You're right, and I knew that, which is why I was perplexed when the article said that her meth led to the child having Down's. And I just looked at it again now and realised that I'd misread it. Which makes sense.


But that's aside from the point I was making; if a woman knowingly does something in pregnancy and the child is permanently harmed as a result, that's child abuse. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome would be one actual example.
Posted 08-16-2012 at 06:02 PM by Nate

Wil's Avatar
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Or just one extra chromosome. That's all you need. Or half of one.
No, you'd need one chromosome per cell.
Posted 08-17-2012 at 03:56 AM by Wil

 

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