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In Devon. Also, weather & climate change.

Posted 07-11-2012 at 09:42 AM by DarkHoodness
Been here since Monday to see my sis, bro in law and nephew, and help them with running their smallholding. They produce half of their own food, all of their own electricity, and try and be as self-sufficient as possible, which is what everybody should be doing, but it's bloody hard work.

They live in a forest on a south-facing hillside, home to a lot more wildlife than what I see back in my woods in Essex, so it's nice to be back here. The change of scenery is definitely welcome after not going away from home since September. It's wet though. But then so is everywhere else in the UK right now.

In fact getting here was a big pain in the arse 'cause some of the damned railway infrastructure here was washed away by the floods.

And speaking of floods, apparently the wet weather is here to stay for the next few weeks. I've been reading a lot about why the weather is getting wilder - I mean I'm pretty sure that as a child, the weather was more varied on a day to day basis rather than having either wet weather or dry weather systems affecting the country for several weeks at a time.

This article explains (among many other things) that it's because the jet stream is slowing down, and so can't push the pressure systems around as quickly as it could, so therefore they linger and so we get prolonged weather systems.

It (and several other articles I've read) also explains that this is happening 'cause of climate change, and also that the effects of having prolonged weather spells contribute to the severity of any extreme weather we get... Sort of like a vicious circle.

There's a lot of debate about whether current climate change is because of man-made causes (I believe it is, most climate scientists apparently think it is too), but it's still something we all should be thinking harder about how to combat. We ignore this at our peril, IMO. I hope the floods and droughts that are hitting the western world hard right now will raise awareness of this.
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Nepsotic's Avatar
Sorry, it just popped into my head.
Posted 07-11-2012 at 10:41 AM by Nepsotic

STM's Avatar
Yeah, apparently the Gulf Stream is moving south as well, so we get more cold North Atlantic water too. Oh and the nasty weather in the USA a while ago has caused all this lower pressure to get pushed east towards us, so that is all compounding the effects of global warming.

>.> I thought it was supposed to warm us up not make us wetter and colder. But then we used all our sun in March.
Posted 07-11-2012 at 12:17 PM by STM

Crashpunk's Avatar
We had a bit of flooding where I live. The marina near us now looks like a trip.
Posted 07-11-2012 at 03:48 PM by Crashpunk

Phylum's Avatar
The climate as always changed, even before people were around. I don't think we're contributng much to this, favouring the idea that it's a natural cycle.
Posted 07-11-2012 at 06:03 PM by Phylum

Nate's Avatar
What are you basing that on, Phylum?
Posted 07-11-2012 at 06:31 PM by Nate

Phylum's Avatar
I like to give the example of ice ages.

That's not to say that our polluting isn't bad, I'm just skeptical that that's one of the reasons.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 02:11 AM by Phylum

Laser's Avatar
I live in Devon and the rain here has reached biblical proportions.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 04:14 AM by Laser

Nate's Avatar
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I like to give the example of ice ages.

That's not to say that our polluting isn't bad, I'm just skeptical that that's one of the reasons.
Ice ages happen sloooooowly. The temperature increase over the last two centures has been zippy as all heck.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 04:43 AM by Nate

MeechMunchie's Avatar
Phylum's been looking at graphs made by Shell again.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 04:51 AM by MeechMunchie

STM's Avatar
All scientific evidence points towards a detrimental increase in CO2 levels being the main causation to the recent fluctuations in temperature and unusual weather patterns. Many of the scientists that say otherwise actually work for companies that would prefer we don't think this, like oil companies and electricity companies.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 06:36 AM by STM

DarkHoodness's Avatar
And there's no doubt that levels of CO2 in the atmosphere definitely are rising and that it's a contributor to rising temperature (according to our records, anyway), check out info about the Keeling Curve and the link between temperature and CO2 levels in historical records from studying the air locked in Ice cores (Yeah I know, wikipedia, but I had to study this for Uni - This last graph also shows how slowly temperatures have changed in the past leading up to and during ice ages).

What I don't get is, while tackling climate change is both difficult and expensive while also would stop some people from making money (which is why the oil companies, for example, aren't keen), surely it'll be even more expensive to carry on as we are? Even if all the climate scientists are wrong and the current rate of climate change isn't caused by us, I don't see a lot of research going into how to grow food and live comfortably in a world with a hotter mean temperature and much wilder weather...
Posted 07-12-2012 at 01:24 PM by DarkHoodness
Updated 07-12-2012 at 01:31 PM by DarkHoodness

MeechMunchie's Avatar
Yeah, but that's way out of a current oil baron's lifetime. They only care about things that effect them.
Posted 07-12-2012 at 04:14 PM by MeechMunchie

 

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