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Saw Prometheus

Posted 06-18-2012 at 04:27 PM by Bullet Magnet
But before that: I'd love to discuss the topic from my last blog in a proper thread some time, but I hadn't the time to properly engage that time, and it's not exaclty the format I'd choose.

Anyway, on with the blog. I don't think there are any real spoilers in this brief review/analysis, but I'm going to wrap it in spoiler tags anyway, just in case.

So... I may need to watch that again to work out what was happening.

It felt like Ridley Scott started a lot of threads and subplots that were left hanging. People (and androids) took actions that seemed like they had some hidden motive, but then that motive remained hidden and they randomly adopted a new one. And he reused old set-peices. Walking into a room filled with short, ominous metal cylinders spaces evenly all over the floor was far too much like the egg room in Alien. Perhaps it was a sort of homage, but it didn't work for me. Especially after the characters had just recently woken up from their stasis pods and were congregating in a round, white dining room. I tell you, there is no way in hell I could eat breakfast on a set like that. Certainly not with the pleasure of John Hurt's company. I did not realise that I had that sort of specific dread instilled in me for so long.

Interestingly, computers seemed to be much more advanced in the past. Some sort of dreadful technological regression seems to have occured over the next few years. The Star Wars galaxy suffered much the same fate, as I recall.

And when you flee from a giant rolling wheel, the thing that most sentient beings do is run the the side, not straight ahead remaining steadfastly in it's path. Honestly. Even birds work that one out when they end up in front of your car. Only Indiana Jones had an excuse, that being the tragic lack of any ability to phase through walls of solid stone.

Still trying to solve the mysterious life-cycles of the various biomorphs revealed. Every damn generation looked completely different to the previous one. Is this Evolution or Alien? I suppose it gradually absorbs the traits of its hosts until it finds a stable and successful form. Though many Earth species cycle between vastly different forms on alternate generations, that's much more like the facehugger/chestburster cycle we're already familiar with.


Anyway, I did enjoy the experience. It did suffer from the common problem of answering mysteries: the answers can never be as good as the mystery. That works in science, but rarely in fiction. I recalled, to my surprise, my own theory on the origin and nature of the Space Jockey pilot from the beginning of Alien. I right here in an old thread, dated 2006. Someone asked for information about the "mysterious derelict ship" from Alien. It's weird how old stuff like that, when not truly embarrassing, reads like someone else wrote it. To me, anyway. Six years! I feel old.

~
The Space Jockeys were an ancient race of starfarers known to themselves as the Desua'l-thinu//oc, which translates roughly as "Space Jockey". They were larger than modern humans, and wore a chronic expression of wistful melancholy.

They discovered the miracle of interstellar travel millions of years ago, shortly before the peak of their civilisation, which culminated with the invention of the self-recycling beer can. No longer having to march to the bin to dispose of their cans, alcohol consumption rose 638%, leading to much drunk-jockeying. One such drunken pilot was that of the Nihifa'gr-panthic, or the "Mysterious Derelict Ship" in English.

It had been transporting a small cargo salvaged from a dead colony. Contact had with the inhabitants been lost after the self-recycling beer can technology had been brought there, and many assumed that the lack of communiques was due to the drunken stupor being experienced by the rest of their race. This was not the case.

A mysterious epidemic had swept throughout the small society, initiated by the discovery of an ancient, decayed ship in the nearby mountains. The colony bore evidence of terrible battles, and only a single life-sign could be found. A small, ovoid organic structure fused to a hull. It was being brought back to a more established colony populated by drunken scientists, but it never made it there.

Pissed as usual, the captain accidentally crashed into a planet along the way. A few ensigns were sent to check the damage, hoping the dent could be buffed out in time for the wet T-shirt party back home, but this was not to be. The cargo was discovered to be damaged, and further investigation revealed that:

"Yer... yeah... it sheems to be... er... hmm. I really love you, man, leshhh go ge' anudder drink."

As the crew began to disappear one by one, the last remaining Jockey, the pilot, discovered the hold filled with a sea of sticky lumps. Unsure of what to do, he returned to his chair, cracked open a cold one, and watched an interesting looking spider in the corner become progressively prettier with every sip...
~

Yeah...


In other news, I am quite alarmed once again to be the only sane man in the entire world, having been exposed to the delights and terrible nonsense of Red Leicester cheese.

It's orange.

What precisely is going on here? I know my colours. I learned them thoroughly before school. I had specific names for each hue and shade, and was thoroughly annoyed each time an adult eroneously called a turquoise sea "green".

Now I'm faced with the madness of this cheese. This is like "blue dogs" all over again. They are clearly black or grey with shiny fur. There is no blue, what insanity is this? Or "gray" horses that any fool can see are white. I don't give a damn whether their skin is black underneath, their fur is white, they look white, this is a fucking white horse, why are these so-called horse enthusiasts lying to my face? Do I look stupid and easily decieved? Is this some kind of hazing ritual directed at those unfortunate enough not to participate in the horse business while enjoying the gift of basic sight?

And now cheese has turned against me. I don't know why our recent ancestors thought it prudent to allow people who didn't even learn their rainbows to name things after their colour (real or imaginary) but it's got to stop. This is ridiculous. It's not red, it's fucking orange, and I refuse to debase myself or insult a great cheese my calling it anything other than what it really is.

These fucking cheesemakers are going to pay for this. Peace.
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Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
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Interestingly, computers seemed to be much more advanced in the past. Some sort of dreadful technological regression seems to have occured over the next few years. The Star Wars galaxy suffered much the same fate, as I recall.
It's more a case of the technology that was available to Scott when making the first film in 1979.

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And he reused old set-peices. Walking into a room filled with short, ominous metal cylinders spaces evenly all over the floor was far too much like the egg room in Alien.
Things like this are exactly what I loved. Because I loved Alien and I knew that while Prometheus wasn't being billed as an official prequel, it still served as a prequel of sorts as it's a story being told in the same universe.

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And when you flee from a giant rolling wheel, the thing that most sentient beings do is run the the side, not straight ahead remaining steadfastly in it's path.
This actually did annoy the hell out of me.
Posted 06-18-2012 at 05:58 PM by Disgruntled Intern
Updated 06-18-2012 at 07:07 PM by Disgruntled Intern

mr.odd's Avatar
I found the whole running away from the wheel to be completely cheesy to begin with.

Also The whole secret motive with David really bugged me. Half the shit he done seemed like something sinister was developing, yet you never really discover what was the purpose of half the things he did. like what was the point in poisoning the one scientist? Also he seemed way more advanced than he should have been for this time period. He not only could open the doors inside the ship but pilot it and speak their language as well?

Also the ending. Why go to the Space jockey planet? I mean i know why she wanted to go, but does she really think they are going to tell her why they are trying to destroy humanity? Did she just space out on what happened when they tried to talk to it the first time?


Other than that i really enjoyed the movie.
Posted 06-18-2012 at 06:19 PM by mr.odd

Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
I'm assuming that she was headed for their home world because she assumed that the Jockey they woke up was some sort of soldier. Which would make sense with the whole 'military instillation' idea about the planet. Still thought it was sort of dumb though.

As far as the David being more advanced, meh. He had what...Two years[?] to learn multiple languages, both written and spoken. He was the buffer between man and jockey. Without David, the movie would have gone no where.

Also, I think the whole point of him exposing the douche bag scientist to the mystery goo was to illustrate that while David is a machine, he's perfectly capable of satisfying his own curiosities as well as operating well outside the boundaries of his programming. He more or less confirmed this when talking about Weyland dying. Being 'free' and all that. You know.
Posted 06-18-2012 at 07:07 PM by Disgruntled Intern
Updated 06-18-2012 at 07:10 PM by Disgruntled Intern

moxco's Avatar
Posted 06-18-2012 at 10:06 PM by moxco

enchilado's Avatar
I saw the trailer for Prometheus, and I thought it looked like garbage.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 12:48 AM by enchilado

Dixanadu's Avatar
It has nothing to do with Alien, yet there is a xenomorph-ish thing at the end.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 01:07 AM by Dixanadu

Wings of Fire's Avatar
It was pretty terrible after the first horror scene.

The only interesting thing about the movie was David.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 02:06 AM by Wings of Fire

Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
It has pretty much everything to do with Alien.

So either you didn't pay much attention to either movie, you never read the comics or books, or you're just a fucking moron.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 07:10 AM by Disgruntled Intern
Updated 06-19-2012 at 08:56 AM by Disgruntled Intern

Mr. Bungle's Avatar
I DONT KNOW WHETHER TO WATCH IT OR NOT

Thanks, guys
Posted 06-19-2012 at 07:52 AM by Mr. Bungle

STM's Avatar
I thought the only thing that was kind of reminiscent of the xenomorphs was...well the proto-xenomorph at the end. A lot of the plot was left with questions unanswered because Ridley wants to make a sequel, by the way.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 09:48 AM by STM

Wings of Fire's Avatar
A lot of the plot was stupid.

There's a way to leave questions unanswered well, Prometheus did not do that.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 09:55 AM by Wings of Fire

Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
Blame the average movie-goer, not Ridley.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 11:37 AM by Disgruntled Intern

STM's Avatar
Well I enjoyed it. There's always going to be an argument as to why parts of every film sucked. There wasn't a part of Prometheus where I sat up and thought, 'this is dull/boring/shit'. Rather, it was a good two hours and I'd happily see it again.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 11:46 AM by STM

Wings of Fire's Avatar
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Blame the average movie-goer, not Ridley.
It stank of executive meddling. It's just aggravating how some bits like the first twenty or so minutes and the whole David/Doctor thing were really well done and then the action and horror was just so... impassionate.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 11:49 AM by Wings of Fire

Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
Agreed. But again, blame the average movie goer. I personally think that one of the best moments in the horror genre is in Alien during the vent hunt/chase where all you really see is a blinking dot on a motion detector. Scary then, still scary now, but most people under 20 have been spoonfed so much CGI that they would bitch and moan about 'not seeing anything', you know?

I still loved the movie despite having a few complaints of my own, and I think it's a great addition to the series/franchise. Although to be clear, I feel that everything past the third movie is crap. And even then, the third one wasn't so great.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 12:24 PM by Disgruntled Intern

OANST's Avatar
Exactly. I was amazed watching everyone discuss Resurrection as if it were a decent movie, and better than 3. 3 may not have been up 1, and 2's standards, but it was still a decent movie, while Resurrection was an absolute piece of shit.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 12:47 PM by OANST

Wings of Fire's Avatar
I'm going to be brutally honest:

I saw Alien when I was very young, far too young to remember it. I've also never seen Resurrection.

Being not able to remember Alien, I couldn't really enjoy/be angered by the links between Prometheus and the Alien series. As someone who has only seen Aliens and Alien 3, I think that the connection was absolutely fine and didn't bother me in the slightest. So yeah.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 12:56 PM by Wings of Fire

STM's Avatar
I think 2 has to be the best, since the standards of the horror genre seem to have been raised somewhat, it makes sense to me to classify Alien as an action thriller rather than an outright horror. As such, Alien 1 lacked a lot of action, whereas 2 saw more aliens crawling around, the tension decreased but overall it seemed more interesting.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 12:56 PM by STM

OANST's Avatar
You just described why Aliens is more of an action thriller, and Alien is more of a horror, but then got confused at some point.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 01:01 PM by OANST

STM's Avatar
Eh, Alien didn't scare me though. Which is why I said I didn't think it was a horror.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 01:40 PM by STM

Disgruntled Intern's Avatar
Just because something doesn't scare you doesn't mean it isn't a horror movie.

I saw Resurrection in the theater. Unfortunately.

I've also seen Alien 1-3 in theaters. Fortunately.

And after seeing Prometheus in IMAX 3D, I'm finally able to say that I've been somewhat impressed by the stupid 3D fad. Enjoyed it, at least.
Posted 06-19-2012 at 02:22 PM by Disgruntled Intern

STM's Avatar
Ah, I couldn't afford to see it in 3D! I wonder if it's any better.

And I know, that's why in my prior post I put
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it makes sense to me to classify Alien as an action thriller
=)
Posted 06-20-2012 at 08:09 AM by STM

 

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