Piece of shit rioters in Tottenham

Actually I wasn't exaggerating, which is why it's so sad. Street kids here in the Netherlands regularly mess with the police and they can't do anything about it.

yeah, where you are, but not here.

Where I live the PC's are respected but also are quite friendly, it's not uncommon to see PCSO's and sometimes regular cops chatting with hooded youths hanging about...

EDIT: @ MA - It's not passive aggressive racism it's based on truthful observation, people just like to make sure they're being overly nice and flowery/ politically correct and I don't have time for niceties when such things raise their ugly heads. 'U mad bro' suffices for someone raging on all caps pretending to know what they're talking about, especially when someone calls me a stupid shit:
When you make a statement like that you need to back it up or it sounds like your just quoting off Wikipedia because it makes you sound clever.

If someone isn't going to take the time to structure a decent argument, why should I take the time when I could just reciprocate.

i'm not a wonderful person. if someone pisses me off i tell them there and then that i simply don't like them, and to basically fuck off. one thing i don't do is harp on about fucking 'negroes' or 'injuns' or any other past century racial term. it isn't because i want to be politically correct, i'm the last person to fall under that category, it's more to do with not wanting to be that bloke that starts every conversation with "i'm not racist, but...". i don't look for scapegoats, i try to see the facts. and if the facts do point towards a certain ethnicity, i don't mark them all in the same light. that's utterly ridiculous.

you see, some of the shit you say follows you around like a skid mark. you've made a number of posts on the forums regarding race and your 'intolerance' towards it or whatever the fuck it is you're trying to express, if anything, and that sort of stuff sticks in my mind. i mean, what are you trying to say? that all the black kids were to blame?

i don't think you've been paying enough attention to the news and life in general to start judging people for their actions and then concluding it with their ethnicity. us English? we're cunts. take a look at football hooliganism when it was at it's worst. that was notoriously led by white skinheads, and what they did was a lot worse than what's going on at the moment. that may sound callous, but it was. that's part of our proud heritage, and is still going on today. it's about time we started looking at our own behaviour before lumping the blame onto others like we always. fucking. do.

oh grow some fucking balls, for Christ's sake.

I agree about the 'negroes', and 'yellow' and all that distasteful shit, and I know it's not good to brand all people under one banner but all I said was (and I think I need to re-phrase myself so I don't sound like Nick Griffin): That more of the people I have seen either looting or in the papers up for identification, are black. That is not however, to say that the white trash fucking hooligans aren't up there shitting all over everyone as well.

I think I'm basically just digging deeper and deeper here so maybe it's time I stfu and moved on from talking about race, apparently it's not my forte unless the goal is to offend...

Quoting off wikipedia?

uh

Some people might not know what 'Social economic status' means and consider it higher knowledge, but I learnt it in Year 8 Geography.

Black people are by and large worse off than white people

Worse off people are more likely to become social undesirables

Social undesirables are more likely to riot and loot when trouble happens

Therefore black people are statistically more likely to be amongst rioters and looters in a city like London than white people.

It's not because of their skin colour, it's because of the environment they've been brought up in.

In other words, they're not looting because they're black, they're looting because they're poor, possibly because they're black.

See, I said possibly with the entire intention of avoiding that discussion.

And we'd be kidding ourselves if we said there wasn't at least a small element of causation.

A lot of people are racist. A lot of people, given the oppurtunity, will favour a black person less than they will a white person. This does eventually manifest itself as, if not an entire class divide, a wedge pushing it a bit wider.