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Just so you know, the "Key" is usually what numbers to ciphers by, so they could be saying "you have the answer, whats the question"

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Could it be a caesar box, that would explain the grid

http://www.dcode.fr/caesar-box-cipher#q2

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Looks like they're wanting us to think in a different way for now... I had a dumb idea that backbreaking could literally mean "do things backwards to break the code"........ ?

EDIT: I've kinda forgotten what they want us to look for now hahaha :')

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Wonder if this is anything
http://www.dcode.fr/keyboard-coordinates
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For reference, here is BACKBREAKING applied to the grid, using the same co-ordinates to find the letters.



e: Perhaps our solution is to use the co-ordinates to apply all of the letters to the grid correctly, then put together the tiles with the 1029 logo and combine the letters within them? In that case, B and N would be two of the letters we need.
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For reference, here is BACKBREAKING applied to the grid, using the same co-ordinates to find the letters.

e: Perhaps our solution is to use the co-ordinates to apply all of the letters to the grid correctly, then put together the tiles with the 1029 logo and combine the letters within them? In that case, B and N would be two of the letters we need.
I was thinking that, the only question is how do we know which number strings pair with which letter strings? And how exactly do the mastermind slashes come into this still? haha. Think that's on the right track though.
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Hello everyone. I've been following the ARG and this forum for a day now, realised I could add my two cents in, but have only now gained access to write. This ARG is crazy and you guys have been really good.

Right now, here's what I'm thinking according to 1029's tweets:

"Let the numbers guide you" > We obviously need to use the coordinates, and don't forget about the numbers after the coordinates. '5,1 : 4.' We still haven't used those, and the fact that 1029 is saying this after you've found "backbreaking" means there's still something to do with them. We may also need 73. (asset73 for the link?)

"\discard distractions and find the /truth" > We definitely need to use the mastermind slashes for something. I know you've tried to figure out what would happen if the mastermind rules are used on the coordinates, but could it be that if we do that again, find which coordinates are "correct", then use those as a grid cipher to lay over the strings written inside the grid to find new words? I'm not sure, this sounds too complicated and 1029 did say the answer is simpler than it seems.

"When you have the key, you need the correct lock" > So if "backbreaking" is indeed the key, could the lock be solving the grid while keeping the coordinate numbers (the third ones) with the respective letters? Problem is, too many letters are on white spaces.

"Every step must be taken in turn" > Perhaps this is the most important one. They're telling us that we've rushed off maybe and haven't done something in order? Maybe "backbreaking" is really just a coincidence and the key is the coordinate list starting with the forwardslash. Aaaargh, my brain.

Not sure if any of this helps, but maybe someone can fork off from my stupid ideas. I'm pretty sure the important clues are in the tweets, and not just the latest ones.
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02-07-2017, 05:56 AM
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The thing with 'Asset73' is that http://www.1029.io/repository/asset98/ provides us with a blank page, whereas http://www.1029.io/repository/asset73/ just 404s us.

But yeah, I tried the Letter Strings and the grid a couple of days ago without incorporating the truth and falsity values '/' '\' and got nothing from it.

Though this IS looking promising.

Just for reference:
Backbreaking = 2-1-3-11-2-18-5-1-11-9-14-7

Also:
8992
8554
73
57 (tag from twitter banner)
---- All unused at the moment.

How did you obtain the word 'backbreaking'? How were the truth and falsity values used?

Edit: Cool, I've managed to get 'Backbreaking' as well.
I'm going to try this for all 16 words possible.

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/\//\\//
5,1:4.
1,2:8.
1,3:2.
3,3:2.
4,3:3.
7,3:3.
1,5:3.
4,5:9.
5,5:2.
7,5:4.
7,6:6.
3,7:3.

JQE - BKCBIKEAGANR (BACKBREAKING)
KDI - TNQEPDIBBOKL
JHW - IHEKLNKWQPJF
JUT - RLHNWITOJWAJ
This is the first set, note that only the JQE letter string produces the word 'Backbreaking' the rest produce nothing.

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\\\\/\
2,1 : 2.
3,1 : 2.
6,1 : 4.
1,2 : 4.
3,2 : 2.
3,4 : 4.
5,5 : 2.
6,5 : 3.
7,5 : 3.
4,7 : 8.
5,7 : 3.
7,6 : 4.

JQE - QETKUCGFAWCN
KDI - DIHNULBDOSAK
JHW - HWTHBJQQPMMJ
JUT - UTOLGOJAWNWA
Second set, produces nothing.
Have to stop for now as I have to head off, will continue later unless someone wants to tackle the other two grids.

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GlitterPanther did that a few posts back, didn't find anything unfortunately
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02-07-2017, 07:30 AM
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Can someone tweet to oddworld saying about how one of the pieces fits at the top and the bottom? (The one below the letter a)
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GlitterPanther did that a few posts back, didn't find anything unfortunately

I may have missed something or followed the code wrong though, doesnt hurt to have multiple eyes or takes on the same thing

But just for reference here they are again, the solutuions at the top 1,2,3,4 for each line and the letter boxes below, maybe I got the coordinates wrong of edited them wrong?



/\//\\//5,1 .1,2 .1,3 .3,3 .4,3 .7,3 .1,5 .4,5 .5,5 .7,5 .7,6 .3,7.
\\\\/\2,1 .3,1 .6,1 .1,2 .3,2 .3,4 .5,5 .6,5 .7,5 .4,7 .5,7 .7,6.
\///\//\1,1 4,1 .6,1 .2,2 .6,2 .2,4 .3,5 .5,5 .7,5 .4,7 .6,7 .7,7 .
\\//\\\/4,2 .6,2 .7,3 .2,4 .3,4 .4,4 .7,4 .2,6 .4,6 .6,6 .1,7 .3,7 .
1BKCBIKEAGANR
2QETKUCGFAWCI
3JATNESPGAWIE
4CEKSCYTHEJZR

JQEABTV
KNUCSEY
CMBILDK
OSCYSIT
ECPAGFA
XHKETJN
ZURWCIE

1TAWLAVJRJM
2WUUASKQPRMHS
3HIUBNJWQRM??
4JNVKKWKTHSHM

HWUITUH
ABSJGNE
WKLALNV
GJKWELK
JLWQQPR
UTJHJJS
BFMMH



1RLHNWITOJWAJ
2UTOLGOJAWNWA
3JYONLPNJWNNR
4GLIPOKNONLWJ

JUTYROS
LNGNALE
HGNWOTI
QPOKSDN
TPNOJAW
EOBNGLA
WKJNWNR

1TNQEPDIBDL
2DIHNULBEADOO
3KUHPHAHBADKE
4YHDALJDLFRJL

KDIUTHA
NPUYHHD
QOEPLND
OALJGUD
ITHBBDO
ZLGFERK
JGLSAOE

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For reference, here is BACKBREAKING applied to the grid, using the same co-ordinates to find the letters.



e: Perhaps our solution is to use the co-ordinates to apply all of the letters to the grid correctly, then put together the tiles with the 1029 logo and combine the letters within them? In that case, B and N would be two of the letters we need.

But going through coordinates of the tiles that have the 1029 logo on it and through the series of numbers - some of those tiles' coordinates aren't listed in the number series.... I am very confused....
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So...
Re-arrange the squares again?

Trying to Catch up with everything here... Oddworld is good (O-O)
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The coded message in the tweet is translated as "one one seven three four one eight five six nine". It was apparently a substitution cipher with the keyword subjectivism. No idea what the numbers are used for, credit goes to Randomiser at GameDetectives
EDIT: NEW PAGE FOUND http://www.1029.io/repository/asset98/1173418569/
Looks like pieces of an image
If you have good photoshop skills, SORT IT OUT FOR US!
ALL CREDIT TO RANDOMISER

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The coded message in the tweet is translated as "one one seven three four one eight five six nine". It was apparently a substitution cipher with the keyword subjectivism. No idea what the numbers are used for, credit goes to Randomiser at GameDetectives
subjectivism is 12-letter
backbreaking is 12-letter

nonsense > subjectivism > numbers as string
numbers (third numbers in coordinates) as string > backbreaking > ???

could someone check maybe? I'm quite busy >.<

EDIT: oh what, apparently, that was it? disregard this then i guess...

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Basically their way of saying "You suck at puzzle solving, here's next image, get on with it"
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Here's hoping for numberless puzzles next time
(=3=) i have a headache looking at them and i didn't even solve it
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I'm going to work on trying to arrange this image/jigsaw puzzle.



I guess they gave up on us solving their source code puzzles
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The photo changes when you refresh again. So did someone on Twitter solve it? I'm so confused haha. Pretty cool either way
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Here's another image from the link



And another



another



wow the same case as before



by the way you guys are awesome and I'm not really helpful but whatever



this never ends



im posting all the images i find if you guys dont mind, so theyre all here







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Right On Cue!
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I have absolutely no idea how I found this:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...CWB6_ARG-H.JPG
every refresh gives a new image, 13 in all
Send this image to oddworld ASAP
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There is MANY more scattered pictures this time (trying to do something useful about it)
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WB1_HEND8243.jpg
WB2_BSJG2456.jpg
WB3_INFG2861.jpg
WB4_HBQD2962.jpg
WB5_SJKW4167.jpg
WB6_OWUI2056.jpg
WB7_MNCH1101.jpg
WB8_RDHRHAHA.jpg
WB9_D34DM337.jpg
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WB11_WHAT8291.jpg
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The photo changes when you refresh again. So did someone on Twitter solve it? I'm so confused haha. Pretty cool either way
I think they saw we were stuck beyond salvation and decided to give us a shortcut.

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credit goes to Randomiser at GameDetectives
So someone at the game detectives solved it then? Nice to see them contributing something rather than just pinching bits and pieces from this thread
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Yeah, I was in Discord and Randomiser solved it, so I put it in the url, and voila! It worked! Glad to be of assistance.
If someone hasn't already, send this image ASAP to oddworld:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...CWB6_ARG-H.JPG
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Some pictures seem to contain the same pictures in a different angle or filter
Also, is that Binary on the Monitor?
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Sorry for double post, just wanted to say, if you go in the source code you can see what phone took the phote and at what focal length
dßç©2�����d�����d��� ������ ���Apple�iPhone 7 back camera 3.99mm f/1.8�������������


You can also see they used photoshop a lot XP

Also, gonna point this out now, theres a bit circle saying "WHAT" the text that is circled is reversed, so its probable that image needs reversing too...


If you turn the image upside down theres a mudokons face


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New tweet from OWI:

"You found another web page! It's a pretty creepy one, too. You know what to do next... http://ow.ly/ILBC308M1FB"

They know Randomiser found the link with all the images in. Good job m8
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