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02-19-2016, 02:27 PM
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Slog Bait, I'm not saying the movie is bad. More precisely, here is my point: breaking the fourth wall for the sake of breaking it as a way to make jokes is frivolous, when at the same time he is a "good guy". I will tell you why: first of all, you will never see him with the bad guys. Heroes do the same thing as him by killing or neutralizing the enemy (seeking for revenge is pretty usual). The bad guys in the movie are depicted as garbage so the viewer is like "well, they deserve it" so he is enjoying himself. Same thing for the taxi driver, you're not suppose to like him, he isn't an innocent. Being mercinary isn't immoral: you're paid for doing something (the contract). By the way, you will see the same trick in Tarantino's movies: one character is supposed to be worst than a garbage or nazi, so it's okay for him to be torture and killed (viewers are even laughing out loud).

Finally, a movie with millions of viewers worldwide is mainstream. They will be shocked only if Deadpool killed an innocent and likeable character for no reason.

Sorry for my broken english: I can't write more complex ideas.

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02-19-2016, 03:28 PM
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The taxi driver was an innocent and it's made clear that Deadpool's advice was what resulted in the driver pulling such a stunt. When talking about what's moral and immoral, the general consensus is doing something purely for personal gain at the cost of others is immoral. The Deadpool movie is a revenge story where Deadpool exacts his revenge by killing, and he was completely comfortable slaughtering countless people on his quest for revenge, whether they were involved in his ordeal or not. That is something that would never be endorsed in any other Marvel story, nor DC, nor Darkhorse, nor any line that tends to focus on super heros, anti heros, and the like.

I know you didn't say the movie was bad, I'm giving you points that counter your statements. I don't believe the movie was at all hypocratic for the reasons I stated. It was a faithful adaptation of the comics and a successful one at that.

It's very rare you'll find any film or story at all where the antagonists aren't painted as deserving of punishment, whether they're actually a Good Guy or not. Marvel's story's usually don't do this, though. It's maybe one out of every 10 antagonists that are non-sympathetic and garbage people. Luckily, Ajax was just as garbage in the movie as he was in the comics.

Also, if the following Deadpool movies remain faithful, he will side with the antagonists at some point, specifically because he was paid to do so. There have been arcs in the comics where he was hired to kill/distract other Marvel heros, and he has killed several innocent people for things as simple as just being annoying. There have also been arcs where at some point he's actually come after Marvel heros with murderous intent because they interfered with his work.


Also also your english is fine, don't worry about it!


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02-20-2016, 12:21 AM
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I didn't read many Deadpool comics in my life, but I did like 20 yesterday, and I don't think he killed any good guys for no reason in those.

He did kill at least one bad guy for no reason though
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02-20-2016, 12:33 AM
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I said he's killed innocents for no reason, not good guys. Innocents being people who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and had no involvement in whatever was happening prior to the encounter.

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02-20-2016, 12:46 AM
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I was assuming that in comics characters are good guys by default unless said otherwise.
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It's a wonderful animated series for toddlers.
Fixed that for ya.

Oh, and I've been watching the latest X-Files episodes. Reboot has been pretty great so far.
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Yes, suprisingly, the last X-Files episode isn't politically correct.
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Yes, suprisingly, the last X-Files episode isn't politically correct.
What do you even mean by that? Is it racist or something?
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It had a Muslim suicide bomber in it.
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I just watched Deadpool. It was really good. I enjoyed the odd structure and the Fawlty Towers reference.
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Halfway through Bojack Horseman. Fuck this show. Haven't finished season one yet but damn, this is too real.
It's one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. So well written, so fucking DEEP.
Just wait for the penultimate episode of season 2... Damn.
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What do you even mean by that? Is it racist or something?
Yeah there's a straight white cis man in it iirc
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02-22-2016, 09:22 PM
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It's one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. So well written, so fucking DEEP.
Just wait for the penultimate episode of season 2... Damn.
I finished it. it was horribly real
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The X-Files finale.

fucking cliffhangers
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I finished it. it was horribly real
When I watched the first season of that show I was already pretty depressed and I started introspecting a lot. The second season didn't have that big of an impact on be because I guess I wasn't depressed when I watched it.
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02-23-2016, 02:37 AM
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If you liked Bojack, I'd recommend Extras. It's a bit more light hearted but follows a lot of the same themes.
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I've just seen the worst interview ever.

It's here:


Ryan was the only redeeming part of the video
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Who has seen The Revenant?

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I refuse to see it because bear rape triggers me.
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I saw Deadpool, it's really entertaining and fun. Not for the kids though! I really can't stress that enough. It seemed like the most violent/"""""Mature""""" Deadpool story I've actually seen, generally I found the character obnoxious, pointless and poorly written when I read the actual Comics.

Great movie though, consistently funny and carefully constructed, considering the budget. There were a ton of silly pokes at the X-Men franchise, only thing it needed was a joke about how Jennifer Lawrence's frumpy rectangle body could never compete with Rebecca Romijn.

If you aren't exhausted by the onslaught of Comic-bookery I recommend watching it. It's pretty darn violent and the action is simultaneously goofy and exciting.

Also, the sixth season of The Venture Brothers has started airing. It's a phenomenal show and the writing is very tight. The way they maintain continuity is fantastic, events from 3 seasons ago are coming back to affect the current plot in a way that feels smooth and intentional. It's easily the best thing Adult Swim ever helped produce. If you haven't started watching it yet, do it. The Venture Brothers is excellent.
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I don't know. It seems fine for kids other than the swearing and violence, but coddling kids never helped anyone. It's a brilliant film.
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I don't know. It seems fine for kids other than the swearing and violence, but coddling kids never helped anyone. It's a brilliant film.
There's a fairly explicit sex scene that goes on for about 5 minutes, an implied slobbering of Hugh Jackman's balls is described shortly before that. In the opening sequence there are brains visibly exploding out of people's heads and a guy splatters like a sack of boiled yams onto an interstate sign, kids find that kind of shit upsetting. It's got a hard 'R' rating for good reason, it's really not for kids. It's not coddling a child to keep an indulgent comprehension of sex and violence away from them until they're certainly mature enough to deal with it, because taking a kid to this is really rolling the dice on some bizarre self harm/violent ideation.
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I wasn't talking specifically about this, I'm mainly referring to films in general. I've been watching 18s for as long as I can remember and I'm pretty sound in the head. Sex scenes can be a bit awkward but I don't get what the big deal is about seeing a chunk of brain splatter out of somebody's head. It's not real.
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Also, the sixth season of The Venture Brothers has started airing. It's a phenomenal show and the writing is very tight. The way they maintain continuity is fantastic, events from 3 seasons ago are coming back to affect the current plot in a way that feels smooth and intentional. It's easily the best thing Adult Swim ever helped produce. If you haven't started watching it yet, do it. The Venture Brothers is excellent.
Hooray! Another Venture fan! I, unfortunately, have a crippling obsessive personality and I can't stop watching Adult Swim's 24/7 stream of the show.

This season is interesting though. It's the first season that's really serialised. Their attention to detail really in fantastic, though.
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I watched Fargo (the movie) a few weeks ago, but I just rewatched it again with friends last night. That movie is absolutely hilarious. I think Carl Showalter might be my favorite role by Steve Buscemi.
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Watched The Martian. Frigging adored it.

Had me on the edge of the seat so many times.
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Watched The Martian. Frigging adored it.

Had me on the edge of the seat so many times.
The Martian was boring. One question I do have about the move though: How did the perchlorate in the Martian soil not affect him?
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I'm more interested how he Managed to survive launching off Mars and spinning wildly above the surface. The whole end part would of been sooo risky to do in real life.

But then I answer with: it's a movie. Who fucking cares?
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I watched The Purge last night with some friends. First movie. Pretty fucking dumb. Not the kind of dumb to get annoyed over, but just really silly and boring. My friends want to watch the sequel and then the new one in theaters when it's released.
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I have a friend who loathed the first Purge movie, but he says The Purge: Anarchy was actually entertaining. I hesitate to use the words 'good' with these movies because they're really, really, really, really stupid, but I may go to see Election Day since it looks pretty nuts.


I watched the 2001 animated Metropolis, a rough recreation of the 1927 feature. It's a phenomenal piece of visual storytelling, but it's got so much weird, jilted exposition. Just that classic bad anime dubbing:

"RED DUKE, MY FATHER, YOU SHOULD SIT ON THE THRONE, NOT THIS MACHINE!!!"

I felt a little irked by the awkward dialogue by the end but it was really, really beautiful. Just a fantastically gorgeous movie. Metropolis itself is so complexly realized as the city of the future, and while it does have some stilted dialogue the themes are consistent, the soundtrack is great and it just looks amazing.

Here, watch the ending. Pretty minor spoilers to be honest, and the whole sequence is just beauty-ful.


I keep seeing people complaining that the movie suffers from a soundtrack that doesn't suit the setting, but I think it captures it perfectly. Tons of Jazz and Rhythm and blues from pre and post depression America, capturing the sense of exceptionalism and the low-down bepop lifestyle of the Zone 1-ers and beyond. It's like people want it to have some convoluted, overproduced instrumental or irritating electronic score, but I think that Ray Charles' rendition of "I can't stop loving you." is extremely fitting for this sequence, and animation is one of the few mediums you could use a dissonant soundtrack to your advantage to assist the tone of an otherwise lighthearted feature.
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I saw Spotlight recently, that movie about the journalists that worked for the Boston Globe that released a huge story about child molestation in the catholic church in 2002

Was damn fucking good, and having only been 9 at the time this all took place and not having done research into it I was pretty baffled. It was really well directed and respectable for the type of story it was, too. Kept me interested from start to finish. Would definitely recommend giving it a look.

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