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I have a little question about Gabbist spawning: where does Gabbits eject their eggs?
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Abe is now!, do you mean where from in body or where in locatieon?

If body, i dont want to sayyyayy!
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I meant orifice. Thank you guys.
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LOL! For me is female because at the end of Munch's Oddysee she takes care of the 150 Gabbit Eggs ^_^ And usually it's a female to do it...
That is not always the case. Male seahorses care for their young, correct?

EDIT: And are even the ones to get pregnant, if I remember correctly.
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I could list species of fish and frogs in which the male exclusively cares for the young, in taxonomical classes in which most species do not do any caring of the young full stop.

In short, that is a total anthropomorphism of Gabbits. Even in most mammals and birds the female does not exclusively care for the young. If anything, it is arthropods in which the females do most of the parental care (not least because of the eusocial insects, where all of the workers are female).
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I think munch is male.

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same i think male.
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munch is male!
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Male. Although he...it's obviously genderless.
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No, Munch is biologically male.
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No, Munch is biologically male.
Who told you this, BM? Why are you so sure?
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Abe's a male Stranger's a male so Munch has to be a male.
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Who told you this, BM? Why are you so sure?
Latamire is a boy's name.
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Latamire is a boy's name.
Latimire.
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‘Abe’ is also a boy’s name, but Abe is gender neutral.
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I always figured him to male genetically male as worker bees are female. Just not functionally so. Not enough or too many chromosomes to have developed into a drone, that sort of thing.
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some species of toad can change their sex from male to female.

yeah, i got that from Jurrasic Park.
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Toads, fish, amphibians... In mammals and birds sex is determined by chromosomes, in reptiles by temperature during incubation, and in many insects, especially eusocial species, by being haploid (half the full set of chromosomes) or diploid (twice the full set).
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Hrm, we all know munch has no sexual ... things...
He is IT and you can't say anything else!
BUT he is acting more male.

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Unless Humphrey's surgery was even more invasive, wanton and humiliating than we know it to be already, Munch is as reproductively fertile as any other gabbit.
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I personally don't think it matters what gender Munch is, mainly because I think Gabbits can change gender in dire need, otherwise why would Lorne give the eggs to much if he couldn't fertalise them? Or even incubate them like a male seahorse?

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As I said earlier in the thread, I tackled such issues here. But that was based upon the notion that munch is male, as we know, and the assumption that gabbits either do not change sex or that Munch does not need to. That would change my conclusion into... well, I would not be able to draw one with yet another unknown variable.

But I think we are safe in the assumption that Munch will not change sex. His is a character-driven story, and that would change who he is. Such blurring of gender distinctions is not going to be tackled in Munch's story, although it does have potential for an Oddworld commentary on modern attitudes to sexuality.
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That was handled brilliantly enough with Stranger’s controversial operation, anyway.
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It was? I did not pick up on it being a metaphor for gender reassignment surgery, if that is what you are getting at.
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Lol, the serious of the operation is pretty much the same. Stranger would be loosing a HUGE part of who he is and was...
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If anyone hasn't said it yet, the back of the MO case says, "Play as the Gabbit with odditude, Munch, and his side-kick..."

So he was intended to be a male, apparently.
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He's right. Munch is male. It has been written: "his", so he is a boy !!!
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I'm pretty sure abe would be called HE if they would write about him this way...
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