More Oddworld film concepts -

Fuzzle Guy · #31 07-01-2009, 09:51 AM

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Doesn't all this art need to somehow connect to the story of Abe's Oddysee though? I know the plot of the movie is supposed to be heavily reworked and have a lot added to it, but it all needs to come back to the same basic things... right?

Nothing's stopping them from throwing in a few red herrings along the way.

ANN NEELY · #32 07-01-2009, 10:32 AM

I'm quite interested to see how these all tie in with the Abe's Oddysee film....

***Xavier*** · #33 07-01-2009, 11:40 AM

I'm surprise no one made a comment about what I think are Paramite's relatives in the first picture, as they clearly don't have the same design (or number of legs)

Guekko · #34 07-01-2009, 12:05 PM

I do not think it is Stranger at all in that picture with the mudokon, just looks like outlaws to me, the larger one certainly looks to me like an outlaw.

Hazz-JB · #35 07-01-2009, 12:10 PM

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I'm surprise no one made a comment about what I think are Paramite's relatives in the first picture, as they clearly don't have the same design (or number of legs)

To be honest I think they're supposed to be the new Paramites altogether... same with the Scrabs being more steed-like. It would be a shame because Scrabs and Paramites were so original and these look more like cliqued sci-fi aliens. They're not awful, but I hope we get something closer to the original.

Fuzzle Guy · #36 07-01-2009, 12:13 PM

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Paramites were so original

OddYouko · #37 07-01-2009, 12:15 PM

Holy Shrykull! Those are...awesome! It'd be pretty cool to see both Abe and Stranger in the same movie!...Maybe not in Abe's movie but later on.
Oh and Munch too. ^__^

Glad to see things are moving with the films...well kinda.

STM · #38 07-01-2009, 12:16 PM

aw I thought htere was something up about the length, the website I got them from simply had two descriptions similar to these so, I put them up, that's all just trying to keep some OWI alive around and about. I thikn pepole on this forum are to hostile.

***Xavier*** · #39 07-01-2009, 01:10 PM

The more I think about it the more it would make sense that the cowboy-like characters are in fact Mudokon slavers, possibly related to the outlaws seen in SW

***Wil*** · #40 07-01-2009, 02:10 PM

I’m staggered that it took this long for anyone to comment on the possibility of these creatures to be redesigned Paramites and Scrabs. It was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw them, and is one of the reasons I wanted these images to be shown last. I wanted the images released in ascending order of discrepancy from the Oddworld we might be expecting.

Lorne has already said that many of the Oddworld characters were designed the way they were because of limited CG resources at the time and, now that technology has advanced, he would like to see the Oddworld creatures closer to how he originally imagined them. The example he gave was always having envisioned Sligs as having pig-like hair. Reducing the number of limbs on Paramites and removing their scales fits into this, and the redesigned creatures we are possibly seeing could just be a reversion to original ideas.

I’m not sure I like them. I’m not going to call cliché without having anything to cite as evidence, but the new design make Paramites very obviously arthropodean*, whereas the Paramites we’re familiar with are clearly mammalian with arthropod habits and quirks. As much I disliked the sound changes in Munch’s Oddysee, they emphasized this. It made Paramites more alien because they clearly didn’t fit into any Earth phylogeny, not by any stretch of the imagination. They had a very unfamiliar and innovative new body shape.

Then again, it needs to be pointed out these paintings are more than anything done to establish scenes, settings, moods, lighting, angles, composition, and be cool to appeal to greenlighters. The different design could just be something Raymond was toying with, or something that was considered at the time but has since been replaced with a more familiar Paramite.

As for those being Scrabs… since when could Scrabs be tamed and ridden? I’m seriously hoping those aren’t Scrabs. It would completely ruin the point. You don’t use a creature for livestock if it’s a beast of burdon. Either you select it for strength and endurance, or you select it for what it produces.

I have more to say, but I’ll wait till later.

* Apparently this is the right word, although I prefer both ‘arthropoid’ and ‘arthropedic’.

Jordan · #41 07-01-2009, 02:30 PM

Looking at the first picture, those do look very similar to Paramites. If they are redesigned to look like that, I wouldn't really mind, it looks pretty good. I do want the Paramite noises back from AO and AE though, the ones in MO are terrible.

I agree with you Max. I really hope they aren't Scrabs. Scrabs aren't actually supposed to have the body shape to be ridden like that. I'd rather them use Elums instead, or a new animal.

Fuzzle Guy · #42 07-01-2009, 03:48 PM

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As for those being Scrabs… since when could Scrabs be tamed and ridden? I’m seriously hoping those aren’t Scrabs. It would completely ruin the point. You don’t use a creature for livestock if it’s a beast of burdon. Either you select it for strength and endurance, or you select it for what it produces.

It's possible that Scrabs won't be one of the animals Rupture Farms is using for it's food.

Remember last year when we all found out about the "Cattle" that Abe tries to save. Alot of us jumped to the conclusion that the cattle was just a simple word for Paramites, Scrabs, and a few other new creatures we might be seeing. Others immediately thought of cows and sheep.

Take a look at this picture. The paintings of the animals on the wall are clearly not Paramites and Scrabs. They appear to be bovine like creatures, which could possibly be what the "cattle" note meant, meaning Scrabs might now be tamed beasts for the Industrialists or what not to ride on. The Industrial equivalent to a dirigible.

***Nate*** · #43 07-01-2009, 05:42 PM

And in case anyone missed the similarity, the horned creature in the middle of that cavepainting pic looks very similar to the one in the third new pic. Which is logical, as both pics were done by Lorne himself.

used:) · #44 07-01-2009, 06:15 PM

Swanland did the first two, and things will look different depending on what style they're expressed in. I don't these things need to be taken so literally. They're just thumb-nail concepts aren't they?

Hazz-JB · #45 07-02-2009, 02:25 AM

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Then again, it needs to be pointed out these paintings are more than anything done to establish scenes, settings, moods, lighting, angles, composition, and be cool to appeal to greenlighters. The different design could just be something Raymond was toying with, or something that was considered at the time but has since been replaced with a more familiar Paramite.

This is what I'm hoping, I'm fine with a bit of redesign, but they had many traits of spiders, so making them centipede-like is a bit of a bastardisation.

Bullet Magnet · #46 07-02-2009, 07:58 AM

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I am also unconvinced that those are paramites, given their design, and not simply some species of vermin.

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STM · #47 07-02-2009, 12:30 PM

Well ok but I do like the design, perhaps these paramites are similar but not the same to there jungle cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone noticed that scrabs change and so do paramites voice wise from AO to MO I hate the fact that the new ones sound like gorrilas for frikks sake!

Jordan · #48 07-02-2009, 01:46 PM

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Well ok but I do like the design, perhaps these paramites are similar but not the same to there jungle cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone noticed that scrabs change and so do paramites voice wise from AO to MO I hate the fact that the new ones sound like gorrilas for frikks sake!

Jungle... Cousins?

Yes, I think everyone noticed the voice change.

ODDREN · #49 07-03-2009, 04:08 AM

i wonder if You two have any other unseen pictures, which will be shown only with your decision. i think we, other fans, have the rights to see all your hidden treasures, even if they are really old.

Fuzzle Guy · #50 07-03-2009, 04:27 AM

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i wonder if You two have any other unseen pictures, which will be shown only with your decision. i think we, other fans, have the rights to see all your hidden treasures, even if they are really old.

There are no other pictures. Just part of an interview that someone is keeping secret from us...

***Wil*** · #51 07-03-2009, 04:44 AM

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i wonder if You two have any other unseen pictures, which will be shown only with your decision. i think we, other fans, have the rights to see all your hidden treasures, even if they are really old.

No, there were just seven pictures. We hung onto them to give us and fans something to keep us going during a dry spell. But rest assured there’s nothing left except joyless waiting. Happy now?

And are you happy, Bullet Magnet?

ODDREN · #52 07-03-2009, 04:49 AM

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No, there were just seven pictures. We hung onto them to give us and fans something to keep us going during a dry spell. But rest assured there’s nothing left except joyless waiting. Happy now?

"dryspell"..i'm on dryspell since 2006, when i bought XBOX

***Wil*** · #53 07-03-2009, 04:50 AM

No, all seven are now up on TOGG.

How did you figure there were still five left?

***Nate*** · #54 07-03-2009, 05:00 AM

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There are no other pictures. Just part of an interview that someone is keeping secret from us...

You have the entire interview from Lorne to read. All I've withheld is one of my questions and the meaningful silence that followed. But the non-answering response that he gave is quoted in full.

Fuzzle Guy · #55 07-03-2009, 05:06 AM

Then you are forgiven, awesome Nathan.

Lots of love,

Shit Nathan x x x x

ODDREN · #56 07-03-2009, 05:19 AM

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No, all seven are now up on TOGG.

How did you figure there were still five left?

i thought those five are not same as on TOGG, my mistake. i just don't like the way you treat us, forum fellas.

if i'll find something ODDy i'll share with other guys right away, without any delays "in the name of"-style. that's how it works.

Fuzzle Guy · #57 07-03-2009, 05:26 AM

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i thought those five are not same as on TOGG, my mistake. i just don't like the way you treat us, forum fellas.

if i'll find something ODDy i'll share with other guys right away, without any delays "in the name of"-style. that's how it works.

Oh... this ain't Star Wars folks... right. =(

***Wil*** · #58 07-03-2009, 05:28 AM

And so do we, normally. But we thought these images were very special, and we wanted to make them last. Nothing has been lost, nothing ‘kept for ourselves’, and nothing withheld.

ODDREN · #59 07-03-2009, 05:57 AM

by the way...pictures are awesome, nice platform for the juicy holywars.

Sanssouci · #60 07-03-2009, 01:31 PM

Incidentally I think it would be pretty shit if predators such as scrabs are used as livestock in the film