New New 'n' Tasty News

[V_O_T]

This forum is tearing our friendships apart. What ever shall we do?



More importantly, reckon will there be easter eggs for next titles in NnT?
I hope to see squeek posters or the slig birthing complex. *cough* slig storm would be neato *cough*

[MeechMunchie]

1995 lacked the technology to portray RuptureFarms' true shade of green. We're getting the original vision.

[Xavier]

You mean Sligs will have hair now?

[OANST]

Oh come on. We all know full well there's still loads of things wrong with it, and if we don't point them out, nobody will, and then it ships that way.

I'm not denying that what they've done so far is great but there's still obvious room for improvement, and ass kissing isn't really helping.

The reason that you were told to shut up is that no one cares what YOU think is wrong with it.

[Manco]

There’s no need to be a dick like that, OANST.

[MeechMunchie]

I think "OANST, there's no need to be a dick" is an oxymoron.

[Scrabaniac]

It's impossible to recreate art identically in every way shape or form, so we should just accept that a few things may be different from the original. We can all trust JAW on this project as they have provided evidence of their skills by releasing some screenshots, which in my honest opinion look fantastic. On the other hand a bit of criticism isn't bad, as long as it is constructive rather than dissing. No one wants to be put down from something they have worked hard on.

[Crashpunk]

Xavier is the voice of reason.

The reason that you were told to shut up is that no one cares what YOU think is wrong with it.

Actually no he's right. If nobody speaks out about something, nothing will be done. We just think (well I do) that the points that have been made (Not just made by Nep) are too nick picky and shouldn't be addressed so seriously.

I think your the only one here who wants him to shut up.

-Actually no I take that back. Meech does too.

More importantly, reckon will there be easter eggs for next titles in NnT?
I hope to see squeek posters or the slig birthing complex. *cough* slig storm would be neato *cough*

I'd love to see some Abe's Exoddus references. FeeCo, SoulStorm, Bonewerkz ect signs and posters.

[OANST]

I want you to shut up, too. I want you all to understand that when I read you people talking this way about a video game, you literally disgust me. That's not a joke, or an exaggeration. I am disgusted by you. If you had actual problems with it, that would be one thing. But you don't. Your problems amount to "This is how I pictured it, and you need to cater to my ideal aesthetic, or I'm going to have a hissy, and pout." Guess what, shit monkeys. This isn't your project. No one gives a fuck what you think about the aesthetic of the game. They are making the game that they want, under both monetary, and time constraints. If they actually gave a fuck what you wanted it to be instead of what they want it to be then it would cease to be art, and become commodity. Is that what you want? No? Then shut your whiny, overly entitled mouths, and keep your worthless opinions to a reasonable level. And yes. Your opinions are worthless.

[Slog Bait]

If they didn't give a fuck about what we wanted then why the fuck does this thread exist

It's a remake of a game by fans and other fans opinions do play a part, if even minor. The development team cares enough about the current fans to cater to them AS WELL as potential new fans.

Since none of us are actively working on the game itself, all we can do is say shit and hope that it gets heard, no matter how small and insignificant it may seem in the grand scheme of things. It's up to them and not us what they do and don't go with

Since when did you consider games art

If anything, it'd just be considered a massive collaboration. You can still have a fantastic final piece after hundreds of thousands of minor contributions were made.

I don't understand how you haven't imploded yet from the amount of anger you accumulate just from browsing these forums god damn you are a trooper, man

[OANST]

I've always considered art to be art. I have no interest in art as commodity though.

If what you're telling me is that this is just a fan service product, and not an attempt to bring the series back in a legitimate way then I have no further interest in it whatsoever, and neither should any of you. The Oddworld that you want is the "balls to the system, we make what we believe in" Oddworld. If what you are saying is true, you aren't getting that, and it seems like it's partly all of your faults for that being the case. Shame on all of you.

[Manco]

god dammit this is all my fault i’m so sorry everyone

Look, I actually think you’re wrong in this case, Slog Bait. OANST has it right – Oddworld has always been about “ balls to the system, we make what we believe in”, and just creating a game for the sake of being nice to the fans isn’t what they’ve ever been about.

The re-releases JAW have spearheaded were indeed more about generating some cash for the IP, as well as helping to stir up some interest from fans old and new. But New n Tasty is, I think, more about reviving the series in full – probably not a full reboot, but it’s certainly trying to remind everyone what makes Oddworld Oddworld.

Where I think OANST is wrong is where he believes that games created as art cannot also be created with fan interest in mind. New n Tasty isn’t a fan service product, but that doesn’t mean JAW must ignore all fan opinion as they build the game.

And regardless of anyone’s opinions on this, nobody has the right to shit all over other people, so can we please all be a little more civil to one another, for fuck’s sake?

[Slog Bait]

I know it's not made for the sake of being nice to the fans, but for this specific project the fans opinions seem to matter. That's really all I wanted to point out. This is MOST LIKELY because it's not an entirely new game, but a remake of the very first one that ever came out in this series.

The rest of your post I basically agree with tho and it's okay friend you are forgiven

[OANST]

Fan opinion matters. To an extent. But Oddworld fans are awful, and horribly entitled whiny turds. They do not have the funds to make this thing live up to your every expectation.

[Nepsotic]

Correcting a background colour and wetting some eyeballs are indeed, such expensive procedures.

[OANST]

When you say the word "correcting" I realize that you haven't been paying attention.

[Nepsotic]

Missing the point seems to be a common theme on this forum.

[Phylum]

I honestly can't tell if Nep is just being deliberately inflammatory any more.

[STM]

I still just want the game. Man, just lemme play this thing, take as much money as you want and gimme gimme! Like geez, dang, dude. Hrmph.

[OANST]

Missing the point seems to be a common theme on this forum.

Right. Stop doing that, stupid.

[Varrok]

Oh guys. Stop arguing and give a big hug to each other. Especially give one to OANST. I think Xavier is right and we shouldn't take neither "whiny turd" nor "ass kisser" stand, but balance it somehow.

[Slog Bait]

You can't tell me what to do you're not my mom

[MeechMunchie]

Actually no I take that back. Meech does too.

No, he's as welcome to his right to comment as everyone else is to their right of reply. Considering he's a hormonal teen who bases most of his actions on how much of a rise he's going to get out of people, I'd just rather they chose not to exercise that right.

As for me, JAW explicitly asked for suggestions and feedback, and personally I felt most comfortable suggesting minor flaws that could feasibly be fixed on a short timescale. All two of them.

[Crashpunk]

Fan opinion matters. To an extent. But Oddworld fans are awful, and horribly entitled whiny turds. They do not have the funds to make this thing live up to your every expectation.

Right okay.

This whole argument started because we've been waiting for something new since 2005. The fans are restless. I think it's only natural to have really high expectations about a franchise you love and care about coming back, especially if it was once a dead franchise.

The fans aren't ruining the game at all. But I do agree that too much input is crazy. I know they don't have the funds to make everything they want, and I think that's what pisses me off the most about this whole thing. People are forgetting Just Add Water are a indie developer. So I partly understand OANST's feelings. However, JAW clearly want the fan's advice. yes, it's there decision, and yes not all advice will be heard. But your wrong to say your opinions are worthless because they really aren't. This isn't a Triple A title.

Again, Issues need to be address so they can be fixed. And also again, people were going too far. Background colours? the slight different colours on Abe? The minor details of the models? I don't want Nep or others to completely shut up like suggested but. Come the fuck on. I'm not on par with OANST by being disgusted by it. But it is unneeded.

Can you honestly say your disappointed with the results so far? Disappointed enough not to buy it? New 'N' Tasty looks fantastic. It's my most anticipated game. Ever.

I cannot be happier with it. It looks like Oddworld, Sounds like Oddworld and it WILL play like Oddworld.

...This is getting out of hand. Please can we stop now?

[AvengingGibbons]

What'd help here is if one of the JAW/OI team members chips in a little just to clarify whether they give a shit or not about what we think... We know they're members here. I suspect they're sat back, watching all this and loving it.

[V_O_T]

Oops, I stepped back in here thinking the arguing was over. I'll come back tomorrow to see if we havnt hung one another lol.

To 'try' change the pace, is there anyone on here that legitimately wont be able to buy a copy of the game on release? I'm thinking of holding a mini comp or give away of some sort. I've mentioned it before, I just need an idea to try make it fun or something.

[Phylum]

I'm an unemployed student, does that count?

[AvengingGibbons]

Love how the out of bounds area is suggested by not allowing the camera to pan past the electricty gates, and instead tilts the camera to show what's ahead.

Maybe the birds flyng in a circle like they traditionally did doesn't quite work as well now that we have it in HD and can see the birds flying backwards, awkwardly, never changing orientation. Suggestions for slight alteration?

[Slog Bait]

@V_O_T:

It's gonna be a really long time before I can get NNT.

A really, really long time.

I'd throw a few ideas at you, but I'm shit at organizing contests and what not when they're not art-related.

[Vyrien]

Honestly it depends when it comes out, as another unemployed student, not knowing is a pain because I need to budget my funds for birthdays and whatnot.