Oddworld at E3 2014

[Job McYossie]

I don't care for the music in relation to oddworld, though I do really like the song. I don't like how clean rupture farms is, but as long as the have the smoke stacks I'm not complaining. It hasn't lost it's nasty factory look that was the sole purpose I got into the industrial revolution way back when, but it's definitely different.

I just watched the trailer and I have to say one thing I am in love with. The facial expressions. The fear and wonder you see in abe's face blows me away. He's not quite as goofy any more but it gives much so a feel of a young, un-experienced, afraid, and awed Abe. Mullock's face tho.

[Phylum]

Ah, so you want AO to have the same style as MO?

This isn't AO. You're not in Kansas any more.

[Varrok]

They are not going to change the logo anymore, it would be utterly stupid to do so in such a late stage of the marketing of the game. Changing it now would just be confusing and going against what a logo is used for: brand recognition.

And having an ugly, unpolished, unattractive logo, that's not gonna convince anybody to be interested in the game is a perfectly fine reasonable decision.

As for the music, as Lorne said, they want some of the fans to participate in making the game. Which is all good to a certain extent but having it as the credit music, it's meant to show off that love was put into this game.

Why didn't they let a fan do the logo, then? A fan, who is good at creating logos.

[Nepsotic]

Varrok, we all know that the logo is killing the art of graphic design as we know it, but there's nothing we can do anymore so we may as well stop going on about it.

This isn't AO. You're not in Kansas any more.

I have no idea what you're on about.

[Phylum]

It's not AO. It's not even a remake of AO. You call it AO any more. It's a new thing.

They can throw everything about AO out the window and say "Actually, I take all of the good stuff back. We really just want AO to be a 2D MO."

[Xavier]

I watched the trailer a couple more times and I realy like it.

The whole thing is beautiful and alive. The new material such as the scrab in the cages, the bridge to the scrabaniab temple, the tribal mud and the ghost sacred wildlife is absolutely spot on!

Can't wait to play the game.

[OWI_Alex]

I watched the trailer a couple more times and I realy like it.

The whole thing is beautiful and alive. The new material such as the scrab in the cages, the bridge to the scrabaniab temple, the tribal mud and the ghost sacred wildlife is absolutely spot on!

Can't wait to play the game.

That's the spirit.

I don't think any of us can expect everyone to like every aspect of the trailer, considering the sort of discussion points we wanted to see out there pre-E3. The game is fully playable at E3 from Tuesday next week, on PS4.

[Xavier]

Lucky E3 visitors.
Any plans to bring it to gamescom too?
:P

[JennyGenesis]

Everyone is just looking way to into this, once you actually get your digital hands on it then you should put all your judgements into the game. We all know at the end of the day you will absolutely love the game.

This.

Especially when it comes to the logo, I still can't understand what everybody is complaining about.

[V_O_T]

Why didn't they let a fan do the logo, then? A fan, who is good at creating logos.

I thought they did? I remember some one from JAW saying a fan sent it in and JAW liked it so they put it up.

If not then my cheese has slipped off my cracker and I have no idea what I am saying lol.


Regardless, I cannot wait to play this and spam it out to my friends, family, strangers in the street and at my local slaughter house.

At this point, there have been soooooooo many great and positive things shown to totally out weigh the negative (extremely minuscule negatives).

Good luck at E3. I wish I could check it out. Do you guys think there will be a live stream?

[Phylum]

Lorne designed the logo.

[OWI_Alex]

This.

Especially when it comes to the logo, I still can't understand what everybody is complaining about.

Everyone's entitled to voice their opinions and thoughts, though, surely? Hopefully those that don't like the logo will look past it in the game itself.

Good luck at E3. I wish I could check it out. Do you guys think there will be a live stream?

Thanks dude, appreciated. Live stream? We're doing everything we can to ensure as many people see the game as possible.

[Gilrod]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7htV1HnDU
Does anybody reckon this music suit's it better? Hahahaha!

I've just been f'king Rick rolled

[STM]

Everyone's entitled to voice their opinions and thoughts, though, surely? Hopefully those that don't like the logo will look past it in the game itself.



Thanks dude, appreciated. Live stream? We're doing everything we can to ensure as many people see the game as possible.

You underestimate the whiny pissants that make up a good percentage of the OWF user base. :P

[JennyGenesis]

[QUOTE=jaw_alex;593816]Everyone's entitled to voice their opinions and thoughts, though, surely? Hopefully those that don't like the logo will look past it in the game itself.

Im not saying they are not entitled to an opinion, but I just dont understand why people don't like it.

[Nate]

You underestimate the whiny pissants that make up a good percentage of the OWF user base. :P

Any fanbase. And just a basic percentage of the human race.

[OWI_Alex]

You underestimate the whiny pissants that make up a good percentage of the OWF user base. :P

I can see it now: Logo DLC.

[JayDee]

Why's everyone talking about ghost Scrabs, the ghost Paramites were the first thing I saw and loved! The way that there's Paramite and Scrab skeletons littering the ground in that scene make my bloomers burst.

[Manco]

Speaking of which, have any of you considered that maybe, rather than the gritty vision of Oddworld being pomped up/ruined for a post-Avatar sci-fi audience, the original vision was colourful and dramatic, and that was toned down to fit in with the '90s trend for brooding gloom and violence? Because as an owner of The First Ten Years, that's what I'm inclined to think.

That’s perfectly valid, but the first thing that springs to mind is that George Lucas’ “original vision” for Star Wars didn’t quite translate to the original trilogy.

That’s a stupidly extreme reply and I’m not trying to compare NnT to Star Wars at all, but going back to the original vision doesn’t always improve the experience. Sometimes a more limited product is stronger.


Anyway, regarding the new RuptureFarms – wasn’t there an older trailer which featured the original building? I seem to remember there being a short trailer which adapted part of the opening cutscene, and it definitely had a matte painting with the original RuptureFarms in it. Was that just JAW using what they had at the time and the original building won’t be used, or does it still exist in some form?

[Holy Sock]

Anyway, regarding the new RuptureFarms – wasn’t there an older trailer which featured the original building? I seem to remember there being a short trailer which adapted part of the opening cutscene, and it definitely had a matte painting with the original RuptureFarms in it. Was that just JAW using what they had at the time and the original building won’t be used, or does it still exist in some form?

[Scrabaniac]

I've rick rolled freaking Stewart Gilray! That's an achievement in my books! love you really, you've done an amazing job

[Havoc]

Heyy, Lulu is at 35 seconds. Lol thats awesome!

Ah now I know what that reminds me of!





Molluck's eyes could use some fixing in that particular shot. Just looks like he has big yellow eyes instead of a yellowish glow. It's shots like these that make me miss the true CGI clips. The in-game rendering makes it look so cartoony sometimes

I love how many people are making commands as if they are in charge of the creation of this game. JAW clearly value the opinions of fans but you are not a developer, thus have no control over what is/isn't put in the game.

No-one is making commands. We're giving either an opinion or a piece of advice as long time fans of the franchise. One would think that opinion is worth something.

[Jordan]

My problem isn't that people have these opinions it's with how they voice them sometimes. Saying "This must be changed" makes one sound like a petulent and ungrateful child. There are far better ways of wording an opinion/distaste.

[MeechMunchie]

Why didn't they let a fan do the logo, then? A fan, who is good at creating logos.

They did. The t-shirt guy. Then Lorne took the design and revised it. Or it might be the other way around.

Considering how upset people are about this, I think it's probably for the best that we don't know who to blame.

[Pirfsich]

Good job Varrok, for not knowing who designed the Logo.
Still don't know what you all are bitching about. You don't even see the neck-crease-bullshit from far away.

[OWI_Alex]

My problem isn't that people have these opinions it's with how they voice them sometimes. Saying "This must be changed" makes one sound like a petulent and ungrateful child. There are far better ways of wording an opinion/distaste.

Well, of course. No disagreements from me there.

[DrewCameron]

I love what I saw in the trailer; changes included.

Please re-consider the music. It's inclusion is surely a mistake and I think this verdict has been nearly unanimous on forums, oddworlds website, on facebook and youtube. It has to be asked; is there a good reason for this consensus and criticism? The answer is yes.

[STM]

Yeh OWF, change the music for a trailer that will be redundant within the next few months. Dear god, what were you thinking, letting a fan with an amazing voice sing for the New'n'Tasty trailer? How could you be so stupid as to choose a song that embodies the spirit of Abe's journey within the story? Why didn't you copy every single facet of the original game?

Fuck sake get your acts together, I know I speak for everyone ever when I say, you guys have got it all wrong!

[OWI_Alex]

I love what I saw in the trailer; changes included.

Please re-consider the music. It's inclusion is surely a mistake and I think this verdict has been nearly unanimous on forums, oddworlds website, on facebook and youtube. It has to be asked; is there a good reason for this consensus and criticism? The answer is yes.

It's not a mistake, at all. It might not scream classic Oddworld, but it's absolutely what we wanted to show for this E3 trailer.

Rest assured that the in-game music is much, much closer to what you were expecting - and for very good reason - but our trailer music is exactly that.

Sorry you don't think it's a good fit, though.

[V_O_T]

Yeh OWF, change the music for a trailer that will be redundant within the next few months. Dear god, what were you thinking, letting a fan with an amazing voice sing for the New'n'Tasty trailer? How could you be so stupid as to choose a song that embodies the spirit of Abe's journey within the story? Why didn't you copy every single facet of the original game?

Fuck sake get your acts together, I know I speak for everyone ever when I say, you guys have got it all wrong!

lol I hope everyone reads this post.^
Put yourself in the bands shoes. How great would it feel to be put in like that? I make music myself and even if it is industrial/metal/synth/dance music with some sexy high pitch/low tonal scream vocals with a banjo/harpsichord, Id feel so honored and id say put that in if you like it without hesitation.

Its pretty bro-tier of JAW and OI to ask fans if they want to be a part of the game. I mean, in some aspect, all of us here are and have something we liked/discussed in the game. Our own personal input.However I would laugh very hard if the lead singer of the band was on another forum on the internet bitching about slig visors not being different from the ones we all love and know lol.

Thanks dude, appreciated. Live stream? We're doing everything we can to ensure as many people see the game as possible.

Thanks! I look forward to seeing interviews and recordings from the crowd. Any chance of you guys being on stage? If so, what day will you guys be there?

lol at Stewart being roll'd. Would i be fueling the fire if i mentioned "a JAW forum would be neat!" like I did 2 years ago? hehe