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Isn't this a pretty good move? By setting some sort of standard or look across all of its products, wouldn't users find it easier to use them because they have a better understanding of the interfaces?
This exactly. It builds a cohesive brand presence for Microsoft, who in the past have had rather disparate and unrelated product offerings.

Look at Apple. They are kings of brand integration. Their products all have familiar product design, similar GUI design. Their website, their ads, even their packaging all work together, and they all scream “Apple”.

But the biggest part of that is how they tie together their products. Think about iCloud, iTunes; how you can buy iWork apps for all their devices; how you can use Airplay to send music between devices, or how Airdrop lets Macs shift files to one another; how Apple’s backup HDD integrates seamlessly with OSX’s backup software.

That is what Microsoft is trying to do, with Windows, Xbox, and Windows Phone. They have a music streaming service that works between them all; they have a cloud storage app that syncs between Windows and Windows Phone (and I’ll bet Xbox’s cloud saves feature gets tied in too); Windows 8 and Windows Phone both have SmartGlass apps to make them work as Xbox remote controls; I could go on.

The point is that this type of integration is something that can hugely benefit Microsoft’s entire ecosystem while also making shit more convenient for their customers.


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I doubt that for desktops, touch screen will ever replace mouse and keyboard... Having to keep up your arm to touch stuff all the time would be annoying... Mouse covers a long distance on the screen and you dont have to use your whole friggin arm.

I just think it would bother people in the end....
I agree with this – I couldn’t really imagine working with a touchscreen desktop monitor as they stand right now.

However, one of my favorite all-in-one concepts is this thing Lenovo came up with:



That looks rad as hell and looks like a solid solution to working with touch in a desktop environment.

I don’t think Windows 8 is a traditional OS. But that’s okay, because hardware is changing fast.


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Yea I don't think touch screen will ever completely replace the mouse and keyboard, though I did see this video where this guy was talking about different ways touch screen could be combined with normal desktop computers one way or another, like having a sort of roll-up touch screen as a second monitor flat out on your desk
It’s a pipe dream, but one of my fantasies for future technology is that eventually you end up with one device that carries everything—your files, logins, apps, settings, social networks, whatever—and that one device just seamlessly ties itself to whatever “slave” machine you need it to.

So you have a device which starts out as maybe a smartphone, and then you sit down at your desk and it connects to the monitor standing on your desk and you just move straight into doing whatever on the bigger screen.
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Isn't this a pretty good move? By setting some sort of standard or look across all of its products, wouldn't users find it easier to use them because they have a better understanding of the interfaces?
You are correct in the sense that a standard is good, but clearly it is all geared towards touch screen, sure, the Xbox dashboard is easy to navigate, but that was all designed with Kinect in mind, not everybody has a Kinect device or a touch screen computer.

I don't even like touch screen computers much, I think it's a gimmick that gets in the way and I always find myself reverting to a mouse.
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It’s a pipe dream, but one of my fantasies for future technology is that eventually you end up with one device that carries everything—your files, logins, apps, settings, social networks, whatever—and that one device just seamlessly ties itself to whatever “slave” machine you need it to.

So you have a device which starts out as maybe a smartphone, and then you sit down at your desk and it connects to the monitor standing on your desk and you just move straight into doing whatever on the bigger screen.
Actually in the near future we'll have virtual computers and touch interfaces with the use of Augmented reality... Imagine having absolutely everything you can imagine in a little usb-stick sized box, and a pair of AR glasses/goggles.... with powerful sensors... and they will allow you to see floating elements of screens, devices, keyboards, etc.


Games will be a whole different thing, painting and sculpting will be revolutionized, and I suppose you could even 'skin' reality...

Ah... Its just my dream I guess.
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I dunno why, but I just do not care about the progression of technology at all. Everyone I know is creaming their drawers over the latest advancements, and I'm still content to use a non-smartphone. I'll never understand you guys who get geek boners over the notion of holographic touchscreen desktops and virtual reality games that are beamed directly into your eye. Maybe everyone just wants to live their lives like we see them in Sci-Fi movies.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your tastes. If anything, you guys have exactly the right kind of expectations. It's just that the way I view technology necessitates a completely different opinion on it.
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I think that stuff is great, holograms and shit, all amazing, but I also have a similar viewpoint to Sekto. I have an old Nokia, it's not a smartphone, it makes calls, texts, has a decent camera and plays Tetris, that's pretty much all I need on a phone. I don't need Siri telling me about how to get to Perfect Pizza in Milton Keynes, I have maps for that. The way I see it, I'm content with how things are at the moment. That being said, I'm glad things are advancing obviously, it'll be great to have true to life graphics in games and stuff like that, but I'm not fussed about anything like that happening right now.
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Technology is a consumer science. Realistically speaking, none of the neato "sci fi" stuff will be widely available for several more decades. We're still at the beginning of the big format shift. As long as I can still do all the stuff I could before, I don't really care what formats and interfaces the future holds.
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Meh... its like microwaves... Once you have em you cant figure out how to live without... ._. The convenience of portable internet, games, drawing apps and so forth in my pocket is.... addictive.

Also its ok not to be on the technology bandwagon... I didnt get a smartphone till since last month either.... x_x I like buttons too much. I was kinda forced to get one.


But being an avid computer user, gamer and interested in creating software, augmented reality is a fascination of mine. I also grew up on Sci Fis... ... So naturally this is a great interest of mine.

And as for AR... I can see it being available in 10 years.. quite widely. It shouldnt be that hard to create. What might be difficult is costs.. But we already pretty much have the technology available in primitive forms at least.

EDIT: Sorry about all the ellipses. Im tired.
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That is quite a lot of ellipses...
I love smartphones, they're brilliant pieces of design, even the iPhone. The Galaxy SIII looks... so beautiful.
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Everyone hooks up with the chick dressed as the Galaxy SIII on Halloween. She's a total slut.
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That looks totally useable, what’s wrong with it?
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Wouldn't it be kind of annoying to have it always on? getting random calls when you're in the middle of something? it made it sound a little silly
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Well I assume you can go offline or sign out whenever. Just like regular Skype.
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Wouldn't it be kind of annoying to have it always on? getting random calls when you're in the middle of something? it made it sound a little silly
sounds like you're trying to pick faults

of course, it would be an optional feature
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You can bet if it switched off whenever you left the app people would be complaining.
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Jesus wept not another bullshit OS.

hang on a few more months and they'll release Windows 9. what the fuck is the point.
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I'm sure folks asked the same thing when the transition from DOS to Windows 95 was made.
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Were there any major differences between 95 and 98?
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That list is deliberately negligent of a few key things, and you are deliberately negligent by posting it.

The Wikipedia page for Win '98 lists more changes than that.

e: That's not to say that MS wasn't just milking the 9x line.

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I never admit on here that I don't know what a word means, I always Google it and then pretend I already knew it. Hey, did 95 need an add-on for Google, too?
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sounds like you're trying to pick faults

of course, it would be an optional feature
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Well I assume you can go offline or sign out whenever. Just like regular Skype.
Naw naw, I assumed that too i just meant the advert was saying it stays on all the time, like one of the big faults of the skype before was that it never stayed on, which it wasn't 'cus you know, unless you closed it then it would stay on, I don't have a problem with it, it's just skype for a tablet
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