Smoking is cool

[STM]

I didn't drink for a while afterwards, smoking never has made me feel sick before or ill or anything. Perhaps light headed once but I put that down to the amount of liquor in me at the time.

[Dixanadu]

First time I did, well...when I got into it, if I smoked two in the space of an hour, I felt sick as fuck. It put me off them for a year.

Then I started again and none of that shit happened.

[T-nex]

I never gave in to smoking. Neither did my sister who was around people who tried to pressure her into it way more than me.
I really think smoking is a choice, especially because of the whole ordeal and burning throats you have to go through in order to be able to actually enjoy a smoke.

Just like drinking is a choice. When I was a kid, I always told myself I would never drink, but of course later in life I saw no point in that. That said I rarely ever drink, and only when I'm in good company. Or when there's portwine around cos I friggin love portwine.

Anyway I don't think smoking is something you're incapable of stopping(Before you get addicted).

Anyway Im thinking I should probably split this thread. Or we should get back on topic x_x

Edit: ah nvm, Ill probly split it anyway.

[Disgruntled Intern]

No...

Smoking is bad. Most people are aware of this before they are 8. It says so on the package. The first time you smoke you nearly choke to death, almost puke and almost pass out. You must be one of the biggest kind of retard to actually start start smoking after all that.

I should take a page from your book, freak the fuck out, and start making irrational generalizations about everything to defend what I like. Oh, and negrep the hell out of you.

It's funny that you seem to have such a good idea of what happens to every single person the first time they smoke. I think that's what happens to kids under ten when they steal a cigarette from their parents. In movies from the 60's. As a cautionary device. I didn't smoke until I was much older than that, and I didn't suffer any of the effects you're blathering on about.

Even still, I am a smoker, so this makes me the biggest kind of retard.

[T-nex]

I don't think a child is really capable of making a rational choice in regards to this.

[Ridg3]

I guess I'm a retard as well.

I enjoy smoking, especially whenever you run out of a pack and you have to wait until the next day to get a another, then after that first smoke you get all light-headed. That's pretty fun. I would stop if I wanted to, but I don't so I'll keep on chugging like a train.

[Dixanadu]

Not to mention nicotine withdrawal is...just the worst thing ever.

I believe that's a bad side effect.

[Jordan]

I have never taken a drag out of a cigarette and dont intend to ever do it.w I imagine it would taste like shit.

[T-nex]

They should make cigarettes that taste like bacon.

[Jordan]

Oh god... They shouldn't. I could never resist sticks of bacony goodness.

[JennyGenesis]

They should make cigarettes that taste like bacon.

Despite my bad experience with cigs. Bacon flavoured ones would get me to try again.

[STM]

Havoc, while you are so devout in your hatred towards cigarettes, are you against smoking marijuana? You have never smoked, nor do you intend to smoke the green stuff? If you have, you are the worst kind of person, a hypocrite. However if you don't or haven't whatever.

Actually, you are a hypocrite, I'm going to go ahead and quote you because this has pissed me off:

I believe that there is no problem with doing any kind of drugs as long as you a) Know what you're doing. And b) Only do it on occasion.

The problem is that a lot of people don't know what they're doing and have the drugs become a big part of their life.

After scowering through the 'Drug Thread' and sifting through the shit and pointless single word posts that you made, I pulled out enough to decipher that you have probably done some sort of drugs.

[Wings of Fire]

Havoc, while you are so devout in your hatred towards cigarettes, are you against smoking marijuana? You have never smoked, nor do you intend to smoke the green stuff? If you have, you are the worst kind of person, a hypocrite. However if you don't or haven't whatever.

Oh for God's...

No wait, I was told very recently I shouldn't do that.

STM: You are wrong in assuming that telling people not to do something you have done yourself is hypocritical. Even if Havoc did smoke weed then later regretted it, there is nothing hypocritical in advising other people not to smoke it.

[STM]

Actually, I believe that that is the very meaning of hypocrisy, maybe you should look at a dictionary definition if wikipedia is confusing you here you go:

Noun: The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

And there is not advice given saying do not smoke weed, instead he is saying things based purely on blighted opinion. Perhaps he would have a stronger argument if you let him talk instead of you.

Furthermore:

Smoking doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look like a voluntary cancer patient.

What you've never drunk alcohol either? Because that's gonna fuck your liver right up.

People might think I'm making mountains out of mole hills but really this type of behaviour gets to me in the end.

[Wings of Fire]

Are you a fucking idiot?

STM: You are wrong in assuming that telling people not to do something you have done yourself is hypocritical. Even if Havoc did smoke weed then later regretted it, there is nothing hypocritical in advising other people not to smoke it.

PEOPLE LEARN THROUGH MISTAKES

MISTAKES DO NOT INVALIDATE THE OPINIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE

THEY GENERALLY MAKE THOSE OPINIONS WHAT THEY ARE

Of course that's completely unrelated as I'm pretty sure Havoc has never touched weed in his life. But seriously.

[Disgruntled Intern]

Jesus Christ, here we go. Again. Never have I seen a better troll than Havoc. WoF, you're wasting your time. stm hasn't been here long enough to know better.

[STM]

No I'm not an idiot thank you very much, although I could ask you the same question.

That's great by the way, you can't find a physical quote of me suggesting I said Havoc regretted doing weed or smoking or drinking or whatever, so you made a quote up, emboldening the bit that makes you look even thicker.

While understand that people learn through mistakes one must recognise the mistake and be willing not to make it again for it to be a successful learning curve.

I'm going to repeat what I said before, you best leave this argument to Havoc and let him have a whack at it because you're not doing him any favours.

[T-nex]

Of course that's completely unrelated as I'm pretty sure Havoc has never touched weed in his life. But seriously.

But he lives in Netherlands! How is that possible?

Edit: STM, just so you know. He wasn't quoting you., He was quoting himself.

[STM]

Jesus Christ, here we go. Again. Never have I seen a better troll than Havoc. WoF, you're wasting your time. stm hasn't been here long enough to know better.

I refuse to believe I'm being 'trolled' if my understanding of the term is correct (and it might not be, I didn't know what a troll was until recently and I'm still not certain) these aren't the signs of trolling. Mostly because to an idiot his arguments might seem valid and well put together.

[Disgruntled Intern]

But he lives in Netherlands! How is that possible?

Oh come on. It's Havoc. Up until recently, the guy was sexually aroused by god damned tigers. Impossibilities + Havoc = MOST LIKELY SOLUTION

I refuse to believe I'm being 'trolled' if my understanding of the term is correct (and it might not be, I didn't know what a troll was until recently and I'm still not certain) these aren't the signs of trolling. Mostly because to an idiot his arguments might seem valid and well put together.

Do yourself a favor. Search the majority of Havoc's posts. More importantly, any thread that has the word 'debate' attached to it. Look for a common theme in the way he posts his opinions and what happens after he does. He's more clever than you're giving him credit for. He's a fucking creep, but he's smart.

edit

Also, you can "refuse to believe" whatever the fuck you want, but take it from someone who's seen Havoc piss a lot of people off, myself included, plenty of times over the years, more often than not, the guy is just looking for results and lolz. So you can keep mashing your keyboard with righteous indignation until your fingers are raw and your eyes are bleary, but I assure you that in the end, Havoc will have the last laugh. Because you're the one who's getting pissy, not him. Which is what a fucking TROLL goes for. That's something I speak from experience on.

[STM]

Ok then. I'll take a breather, for some reason I keep expecting this forum to turn out proper debates and philosophical discussions, even at my amateurish level. Disappointment ensues every time.

[Ridg3]

*Splits thread into Havoc's trolling abilities*

[T-nex]

*Splits thread into Havoc's trolling abilities*

*splits thread into stfu*.. Juuust kidding ^^

But yes. ON topic pplz! There's mint flavored cigarettes. Stuff.

[enchilado]

ON-TOPIC

I've never so much as touched a cigarette.

And I'm the least cool person you could ever meet.

[T-nex]

I once pretended I was smoking with one of my moms cigarettes when I was a kid, and then my mom got really angry at me saying it's nothing to joke about.

[STM]

It's not something I want to do any more unless it's weed. I haven't smoked cigarettes for a week and that was only one shitty cigarello. S'all good.

[Disgruntled Intern]

*splits thread into stfu*.. Juuust kidding ^^

But yes. ON topic pplz! There's mint flavored cigarettes. Stuff.

Not in the states, not any more. Well, unless you mean menthols. But you used to be able to get all sorts of oddly flavored cigarettes until they were made illegal because someone decided it made smoking more alluring to children. It's not like there were Kool-Aid and cupcake flavors available...Unfortunately.

[T-nex]

I remember my parents got interesting cigarettes whenever we went to Germany to do shopping. I think they were called Eve.

Anyway Making funny-flavored cigarettes illegal is just.. dunno, it doesn't sit well with me at all. That's way too controlling x_x blagh.

[Ridg3]

Yuck, menthol cigarettes. Now that is something that I do despise, the taste of it is not in the least satisfactory and fucks up whatever you happen to be eating/drinking at the time. But on the topic of menthol ciggies, a mate of mine lives in Jersey and she brought smokes with her that I've never heard of. Camel Menthol Crush were the name of the brand but I was not aware of this at the time.

So, standing outside a popular nightclub (where all the unsociable, awkward metalheads go to, hurr hurr) I was rolling up my ciggarette (which is my preferred smoke) whenever she offered me one of these unheard of fags. I, wanting to try something new, stopped rolling and took the fag off her and lit up.

Now these cigarettes are different from regular ones. Sure, they taste (horrible) like normal (cheap, horrid) smokes but there is a little fiber-glass ball in the fag-end that you pop and makes the smoke all minty and yucky. She just said to me to squeeze the butt really hard (lol,) so I did and was shocked to find that the flavor changed.

Enjoy that anti-climatic ending.

[Crashpunk]

Smoking is disgusting. Just a horrid habbit.