Heaven is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark -

Wings of Fire · #**331** 05-24-2011, 08:35 AM

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My bad for not watching your shit.

Playing. Playing her shit.

Now that that's out of the way; shut up Strike Witch.

Spooce-aholic · #**332** 05-25-2011, 12:20 PM

I think Philosophers have theorised that we maybe caracters in a game like the Sims.

Wings of Fire · #**333** 05-25-2011, 12:26 PM

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I think Philosophers have theorised that we maybe caracters in a game like the Sims.

Philosophers theorize a lot of things. The majority of it is bullshit.

Ridg3 · #**334** 05-25-2011, 01:01 PM

Except we're not going to say stupid things then,cry, pish ourselves and pull a mop out of our holes to clean up the mess.

MarsMudoken · #**335** 05-25-2011, 01:51 PM

You think it's a coincidence, that when the world is really screwed up, and everyone is noticing it's screwed up, that there's a sudden increase of doomsday predictions?

Spooce-aholic · #**336** 05-25-2011, 02:32 PM

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Philosophers theorize a lot of things. The majority of it is bullshit.

I wouldn't doubt that we are.

OANST · #**337** 05-25-2011, 02:41 PM

Oh, good. Now everyone on the forum is a full-fledged philosopher. How exciting.

Mr. Bungle · #**338** 05-25-2011, 03:23 PM

But what exactly is a philosopher?

Havoc · #**339** 05-25-2011, 03:25 PM

Oh shit!

T-nex · #**340** 05-25-2011, 04:01 PM

A philosopher is a person who philosophizes about such things as staying on topic and avoiding infractions!

Wings of Fire · #**341** 05-25-2011, 04:22 PM

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But what exactly is a philosopher?

Someone who asks awkward questions.

STM · #**342** 05-25-2011, 11:58 PM

And answers them with 95% bull shit 5% shit.

CrissCross · #**343** 05-26-2011, 12:38 AM

and pretends to give a fuck

T-nex · #**344** 05-26-2011, 01:02 AM

Im serious guys... If you're done talking about religion or science,then stop posting here.if you wanna discuss philosophy, it deserves its own title. But this banter can only be described as useless. So please either... i dunno. Make a blog or a new thread. Or get this baby back on tracks.

Crashpunk · #**345** 05-26-2011, 01:01 PM

I once saw a Bible in the Fiction part of my local libary.

LDG519 · #**346** 05-26-2011, 02:52 PM

I would call myself a theist, however I am yet to find a religion that doesn't conflict with with proven science.

I once watched a christen science dvd (what I call anti science) about quasars, and he got how they mesure distance in space completely wrong, he said that someone noticed that the faster something was going, the further away it was and that scientists were now looking at just the speed and calculating the distance from that. also the majority of his argument was based on distances which he probably got completely wrong.

Havoc · #**347** 05-26-2011, 03:32 PM

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I would call myself a theist, however I am yet to find a religion that doesn't conflict with with proven science.

I once watched a christen science dvd (what I call anti science) about quasars, and he got how they mesure distance in space completely wrong, he said that someone noticed that the faster something was going, the further away it was and that scientists were now looking at just the speed and calculating the distance from that. also the majority of his argument was based on distances which he probably got completely wrong.

Explain that again, this time in a coherent manner, so we can all understand what you're saying?

***Nate*** · #**348** 05-26-2011, 06:19 PM

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Explain that again, this time in a coherent manner, so we can all understand what you're saying?

To be fair, it sounded like he was describing something that was pretty incoherent to start with.

Bullet Magnet · #**349** 05-27-2011, 08:26 AM

It usually goes that either a smaller universe or one in which the speed of light was once faster is desired by fudgedamentals because it permits us to see the light of the stars (obviously a universe created with light in transit would be the work of a liar). Unfortunately both solutions create a cascade of major problems with the whole of science, as those alterations to bring the light of stars and its science into this biblically literal model of the universe pushes the rest of science out of observed reality, and correcting again just makes things worse. Like a line of falling dominoes that spell out "YOU HUMONGOUS TWIT".

The short answer is, a smaller universe complete fucks up gravity and everything relating to it (ie, everything). And since we measure astronomical distances using the speed of light as the standard, increasing the speed of light increases the measured size of the universe, thereby requiring the same travel time as before. Also, the increased size of the universe fucks up gravity etc.

LDG519 · #**350** 05-27-2011, 06:04 PM

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Explain that again, this time in a coherent manner, so we can all understand what you're saying?

basically the guy tried to say that red shift was wrong, when he completely misunderstood how redshift worked.

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It usually goes that either a smaller universe or one in which the speed of light was once faster is desired by fudgedamentals because it permits us to see the light of the stars (obviously a universe created with light in transit would be the work of a liar). Unfortunately both solutions create a cascade of major problems with the whole of science, as those alterations to bring the light of stars and its science into this biblically literal model of the universe pushes the rest of science out of observed reality, and correcting again just makes things worse. Like a line of falling dominoes that spell out "YOU HUMONGOUS TWIT".

The short answer is, a smaller universe complete fucks up gravity and everything relating to it (ie, everything). And since we measure astronomical distances using the speed of light as the standard, increasing the speed of light increases the measured size of the universe, thereby requiring the same travel time as before. Also, the increased size of the universe fucks up gravity etc.

he did claim that quasars were only 7 thousand light years away, so he is doing the smaller universe way which completely screws up gravity

Spooce-aholic · #**351** 06-09-2011, 08:38 AM

I was watching this science documentary about life after death.

They said that the brain is like a quantum computer. If something happens there it influences something some where else.

They say that when someone has a near death experience, their consciousness leaves the brain and goes some where else in the universe. I think it has something to do with quantum mechanics or something like that.

This causes us to see all this weird stuff.

But I think I remembered it wrong.

Wings of Fire · #**352** 06-09-2011, 08:40 AM

uh

What?

***Nate*** · #**353** 06-09-2011, 06:09 PM

I dispute the use of the term 'science documentary'.

LDG519 · #**354** 06-09-2011, 11:34 PM

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I was watching this science documentary about life after death.

They said that the brain is like a quantum computer. If something happens there it influences something some where else.

They say that when someone has a near death experience, their consciousness leaves the brain and goes some where else in the universe. I think it has something to do with quantum mechanics or something like that.

This causes us to see all this weird stuff.

But I think I remembered it wrong.

the whole Idea of "near death experiences " is flawed even from the religious viewpoint, the only possable explination for them that I can think of is god making a mistake and thinking your dead and not coming back and then the you come back so he puts you back in, and as most religions say god is perfect and this requiers god to make a mistake I think the near death experience is wrong.

any near death experience is either hollucination or deception

enchilado · #**355** 06-09-2011, 11:47 PM

A near-death experience is an experience whereby you nearly die.

MeechMunchie · #**356** 06-10-2011, 03:37 AM

I'd say death is a boolean condition.

Bullet Magnet · #**357** 06-10-2011, 06:32 AM

A boolean condition. Or one side of it at least. Though what counts as the line keeps shifting further in death's direction with medical science.

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Rob Eshman: One of the most common tropes is the near-death experience. Over the last three decades, there have been 40 studies of some-3400 near-death experiences and they've been published in American psychological journals, and Barbera Haggerty did a book on this called "The Fingerprints of God", where she interviewed a lot of the people who did these studies that were published in peer-reviewed journals, and a lot of the people she interviewed said they cannot help but think, after investigating these in a scientific way, that they point to something beyond this life.

Christopher Hitchens: I would say that's wrong by definition, because it's a near-death experience. It means you didn't die. If someone is reported dead on Tuesday and you see them on Friday, the obvious conclusion is that the initial report was mistaken. We have no reason to believe otherwise.